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Well, hey listeners, welcome back to the Aligned and Unstoppable Podcast.

I am pleased and excited to be joined by my friend Whitney McNeill. Thanks for just laughing along with me.

That’s fine.

And I brought Whitney here today because she is a fellow business owner entrepreneur who is wholeheartedly guided by her intuition. And she helps to teach other spiritual folks how to use their intuition in various ways. But before I chop up your bio, I would love for you to introduce yourself and how you got to this place and today here on my podcast.

Well, thanks for having me first off. And it’s always fun to talk with you and talk with your spirit guides and my spirit guide and who knows what’s going to come through. So I love working with spiritual and ambitious souls who really want to live their purpose through their careers. And I truly feel that the way in to do that, to save so much time and to feel aligned, is through your intuition and working with your guides.

Years back when I was really young, I started to see spirits and I could not make sense of what I saw. I mean, it was so vivid that I actually had my parents check for footsteps in my room because I swore that there was a man there. Good news it wasn’t a human person, but bad news. I still didn’t know what I was experiencing.

So throughout the years, I became really interested. I was really open. And then at one point, Emily, I got so freaked out because I saw a woman with red hair in a pink shirt sitting on the edge of my bed.

And I screamed out loud, Your dad go to the light. Like, I didn’t know what else to do. And from that point on, I shut off my skills. I shut off my intuition. I just didn’t have anybody to talk to help me understand it.

So years went by, I got way out of alignment, went down the wrong path, lived my life based on what other people thought was best for me, not paying attention to anything I wanted to do. I didn’t have confidence in myself and all that.

Then it got to a point where I was in a health crisis and my aunt, I believe this was her intuition, said, hey, we’re going to take you to this place in Arizona for alternative healing. And I went I had Reiki sessions, I had shamanic healing. I opened up my energy. I saw other practitioners talking to their spirit guides and creating a positive impact in the world.

And my health changed so much so that when I went back to my doctor, I told him about what I experienced. And he said, you need to learn how to do this for others. I was like, all right, that’s a slap in the face. Like, go to the event and here I am.

So I wanted to be able to teach and to help other people understand how to talk to their guides without the fear and also understand how it comes in for them. Because just because I saw spirit, doesn’t mean someone else will see. They might experience it through feeling or knowing or in their body or hearing. And that, in a nutshell, is what I like to do and why I do it.

I really love that. And even when you share that story about the redheaded woman. Like my whole body just totally lit up. I was like, this is so significant. And everything in me was like, ha! And so, you know, you said you went and lived your life. But I know for me, I did healing for a very long period of time. And there were some periods that I did it more on the side that I was working a quote unquote real job. And, you know, did that happen for you, too, or did you just go straight into your healing career?

So I was still working a full-time job and I hated it. I really did. I was working like 10 to 12 hours. And I knew with my entire being that I wanted to do something in this realm, in the spiritual realm, and help others. But I didn’t see anybody else that started a business like this, so I kind of didn’t know how it was going to happen. But of course, my spirit guide, it’s led me to people, led me to opportunities, led me to situations. So I actually started my business part-time. So I would work my 10 to 12-hour job. And then I had rushed over and drive to my office 30 minutes down the road, like eating dinner in the car to do my healing sessions or to do my readings. And I loved it. And then I’d also do that on the weekends. Now I got to a point where I was very exhausted because. I was there…

you’re working 900 hours!

Exactly. And I had asked my guides. So one of the things when you really work with your guides, I said, hey, please create these opportunities for me because that’s one of their main jobs, so please create more opportunities. I really want to do this full-time.

My family wasn’t really supportive of it. I mean, they loved me. They were just fearful. I think that that might be the case with most entrepreneurs, but for me, especially in the spiritual world, it was like, I don’t know if you can do this, Whitney. And I just really leaned into my guides and I said, tell me, just kind of take over when I need to quit.

Emily, I walked out of my job, drove the car, never came back. I mean, it was just like one day my body kind of took over and I was like, I got to go. That is not how I would ever recommend to anybody to quit a job. I mean, and that’s really not my personality. I would want to give people notice. and  I would want to leave on good terms.

So here’s what happened when I did that, the company that I was working for actually said, well, we still want you to work for us, but from home for the rest of the year. So I still got and come from there, and my part-time business really went full-time literally in a couple of days. It was like, I don’t know if the Google algorithm changed or what happened, but honestly, it’s your spirit guides telling you this is your time.

Because I have this limiting belief – nobody’s going to see me for appointments in the middle of the day and they’re only going to see me on evenings and weekends. That was just a limiting belief. 

I just stopped doing evening and weekend stuff. And then, of course, my business has pivoted and changed. I only do teaching full-time now through classes and programs, but it’s so beautiful when you really work with your guides, especially in your business, when you’re making this very pivot, you’re making big life changes. The guides are like, we’ve got you. You just trust the process. It’s just us who wants to second guess it and say how it’s not going to work when it really will work.

Totally. So let’s give it to guides because you know, to be able to just essentially speak to your guides and say a prayer, like please just like make this transition work is like great in theory for a lot of people in practice it’s not so clear and cut and dry. And I feel like we have very similar personalities in that way where like leaping really isn’t such a big deal. But for a lot of people who take calculated risks and who are maybe like risk averse, it might seem like, yeah, no, that’s nice for you. But instead, I think I’m going to overthink it for a little while.

So can we talk a little bit about how to make that transition to connect with your spirit guides a little bit more clearly for people who are new at this and to maybe define like what is a spirit guide for them if they’re new?

Yeah, absolutely.

So a spirit guide is a guide that you have this contract with and you can acquire spirit guides for different reasons.

I’m going to just talk about the personal spirit guides we all have. So generally we talk about 2 to 3, we talk about 2 to 3 guides. They guide us, they teach us and they protect us. And this is in your personal sector.

Most of the time we have these guides before we incarnate and we have negotiated a contract, or perhaps they are a spirit that we’ve known before and we need to finish out some sort of karma or something of that sort.

And so they’re guiding us through our life. They help us with those feelings and knowing they will also teach us. They will also guide us to teachers, literally, who you need to learn from in classes, and they will take you on astral visits, which a lot of people think our dreams. So it really it’s often your spirit guides taking you to learn something or taking you to process something.

We also have protector guides as well, when I found out. Out that I had a protector guide, like, whoa. My mind was blown. Oh, I don’t have to be fearful of whoever is coming to talk to me because my protector guide will help filter that out. So those are our main guides.

When we work with our guides, their main goal is to help us stay aligned to our path and our purpose. And this can be with career, relationship. All of these things are helping us raise our vibration, become lighter, learn more, and grow.

I always tell students that work with me. I would love for you to just take 5 to 15 minutes every day to talk to your guides. And the number one reason why people don’t connect to their guides other than fear is they think it takes too much time.

They think that they have to go on a mountain somewhere or meditate for an hour or there’s a stage in their room and everything has to be perfect. And I’m like, no, it doesn’t.

I mean, ideally, yeah, you can clean out your energy in your room, but like, you can still talk to your guides for 5-15 minutes.

Yes.

Then what I’ll say is tell your guides all the things that you’re grateful for. Thank them. Ask them any questions that you might have and tell them what you need help with. Then clear your mind and then let the messages come in in those 5 to 15 minutes through your intuitive language to seeing, hearing, feeling, or knowing.

And then when you continue to do this, you start recognizing your intuitive messages more. You start forming a rapport and relationship with your spirit guides. They start becoming on the same page with you.

And so many times, Emily, I hear people say, Oh, I don’t need to talk to my guides. I just know what I need.

I’m like, Oh, no, no, no. Like red light. Let’s turn around.

And one of the examples I’ll say is if you had an assistant that you never talked to, but your assistant saw that you drink coffee every day, your assistant might ask you, hey, what do you need help with? What kind of coffee do you like? And you don’t answer your assistant. Just going to try to give you the coffee, but you might take your coffee with stevia and with oat milk and your assistant like I see some sort of sugar and I see some sort of milk. So here’s cows milk and three packets of sugar. It’s not gonna necessarily the same.

So talking to guys is really, really imperative. And when you do that, you form this bond and this relationship, and it is like they’re old friends.

So for folks who are starting out too, well, I have a side question. I’ll get you in a second because it’s not like not leaving me alone.

But the question I want to start with is for folks who are new to using their intuition, new to speaking to guides, you know, we just you mentioned your intuitive language.

So seeing, hearing, smelling, sensing, knowing. And for the folks who, you know, I’m very clairvoyant, so usually things come faster visually and I attract a lot of folks who are claircognizant and so they have that knowing and so I might describe something for you with the same answer.

Yes, yes.

So like it’s really challenging for my clients and I think probably yours too of being like I can say the words like, Oh, I’m seeing, I’m watching, but you’re like, I’m not getting anything except you are. Because, you know, like, you know, like, you know. But those claircognizant folks are always like, let me check the data. Why do I know this? I don’t know why I know this. Hold on. I don’t think I know that.

So any advice that you could give the folks who are listening, who are claircognizant? Because I know you’re here.

Yes, I know you’re here, too. So I talk about this year, which is starting out, which is hearing the empath, which is feeling and the channeler that just knows and experiences and their body. So with a channeler, I want you to give yourself permission that you don’t have to see, hear or feel. And one of the main problems that channelers say they have is are not getting like an external validation. I just know things and it sounds like I’m talking to myself where a thought just popped into my head or something of that sort.

So one, give yourself grace. So, you know, I don’t have to have it come in a specific way. I’m going to love the way it comes in specifically for me, and I’d love for you to move your body.

The more you can move your body, whether it’s through walking, whether you want to dance for 5 minutes and just kind of get your energy going, a breath work that’s going to help you feel more confident and get your energy to flow.

And sometimes when I say clear your mind and meditate, it might not work for you. Go walking like move your body pace back and forth, you know, as you’re listening to the meditation, that’s okay as well. Those things help get the energy flowing.

But some of the great exercises that I teach channelers is writing. So what I’d love for you to do is when you’re talking to your guides, you can ask a question and then just write down the first thought that comes to mind. You can also do this with talking if you have a voice memo app and then just say the words coming out of your mouth and don’t try to make sense of it until later. And this helps your body release the energy and also release the slow.

Now, another thing that you can do as a channeler, is to use your body as a pendulum. So you’re really connected to spirit. So ask spirit a question such as, you know, show me what it is in my body when it’s a yes. Show me what it is in my body when it is a no.

And then you’ll start to understand more of the language coming through in your body. But taking care of your body, letting the energy go is important.

And then one last thing I want to share. This can feel so disconnected, but it is. Let’s say that you have a decision to make. And you are tired. You’re like, I can’t get. I am slow today. I just can’t get moving. I’m just feeling kind of, um. That’s an indication. That’s probably a no. Even though you might feel like it’s not connected.

The opposite as when it’s a yes. You might wake up and feel so inspired and energetic, like you’ve got energy going for days. That’s when you know, okay, something’s a yes here. So pay attention to your body.

I remember I was going on a hike with my husband and I was getting ready to walk down the path and my body just couldn’t move anymore. So I’d turn around and go a different path. And at that, I don’t know what was at the end of the other path. I just know my body would not let me do it.

And my body, when I left my job working full time, it was a channeler response. I didn’t see, I didn’t feel or hear. My body just got up and left. I think what the heck is going on with my body?

So channeler responds. But they find themselves Emily, in places that they will say great words of wisdom to people. And the other people go, Oh my God, she just gave me so much inspiration and insight, or, Wow, you just gave me all these ideas. And oftentimes a challenge is like I did, I don’t know. And so, no, that is your intuition coming out. It’s just so innate that it’s hard for you to recognize.

Yeah. And I love what you said about using your body as a pendulum, and I’ve just started getting more into muscle testing, and that is what I’ve been doing with, you know, whether I’m going to be doing this offer or this launch or is this price or this client and using my body.

Because a lot of times, you know, we’ll have that instinctual knowing, but then we can be like, well, and we can convince ourselves to make, you know, him and how about something? But truly, these are different tools that can save you so much time and wasted energy and probably money in the long run when you can just start to tune in right away.

So my side question that just came back up again, is I remember very vividly this one guy who showed up, announced his name, spelled it out severely in capital letters so I could see it and hear it. And then he gave me this like dope slap and then was like, peace come out. And I was like, Oh, okay, that was rude. But also I get it. Like it was very clear message.

And for this particular guide, he shows up and that’s his energy. Like, he just comes in to just like yell at me for a second and then he leaves and I don’t feel like I don’t feel his presence. I don’t work with him most of the time. So what would you say to that? Is that just like I need that doped up when I need it and that’s when he delivers it?

I would if it ever makes you feel uncomfortable, you can always talk to your guides and let them know. But every guide has a different personality. So some guides are super chatty. Here’s my name. This is, you know what it is?

And then other guides are like, names are not my thing. That’s like an Earth-plane thing. Like, I just, you know, you can think of me and when you visualize a symbol or you can just call me whatever.

And also extroverted people tend to attract extroverted guides. Introverted people tend to attract and for the guide.

So whenever I used to do readings, I would love this person. Like, you know, you just meet somebody and you’re like, Oh, I could totally go to coffee with them. I’m really, you know, feeling engaged with them. And then I’d sit down, do a reading and it was like peop, you know, like, sure, here’s a message and it’s because they were very introverted. But the more that I would say something and it would resonate, the more they would open up.

So your guides have different personalities and you know, I have guides that even have different accents. I cannot for the life of me try to do an accent. However, when I’m channeling, a guide I might have a New York accent all of a sudden, you know, could never do it consciously but there it is.

Or I’ve talked like I was from Australia, had an Australian accent before and I could never consciously do it. So it’s so interesting to see how they come in and it’s like entering here. This is the message. You’re like, are you listening? Cool. I’m in. I’m out.

Yeah, that reminds me of when I lived in Spain for a study abroad and I started to have an inner dialog that was in Spanish, but I couldn’t understand what I was actually saying inside of my own head. And I’m like, this. Is just so rude on so many levels. I have no idea what I’m actually thinking right now. So maybe one of my guides was cctually a Spanish-speaking guide and I just hadn’t quite gotten there yet.

Yeah, you can have guys that come from different countries that will help you translate as well. I used to do readings where the person I was reading could not speak English, and so they would bring in a translator. And so I would say something and we would go back and forth. And a lot of times whatever I would say would answer the question of the person that didn’t even get it out yet. So you can also bring in a spirit guide for a translation.

But what’s even cooler? I don’t want to say cooler, but another thing that I wanted to say that I think is cool is that you also have guides for your business and you have guides that will help you and marketing guides, it’ll help you in PR guides that will help you with creating your offers.

And we tend to think of our personal guides and teachers. Then when we get interested in intuition – we get different guides, we get interested in mediumship – we get different guides, we start our business – we get different guides. So oftentimes we just attract them when we need them.

Many of us healers have healer guides and I would only see one of my guides. And he had this stoic energy. He never talked to me. So your guide at least talks you like I would never do arguing, and I would see him vividly. When I was doing Reiki sessions, I was like, fantastic. But I didn’t get that rapport. Other guides, super chatty.

Yeah, that’s great. So let’s sort. Of open up the conversation around mediumship, if we could kind of segway into that, you know, when you talk. Well, actually, I’m going to hold off on that. I’m getting a wait.

So with that, with the specific guides for particular areas in your business, I’d love to talk about that.

And there’s in my Oracle deck, the Angels in Your Biz, Oracle, there’s cards that say, you know, Marketing – your guides will create a strategy and like literally written on the card and social media or soulmate clients like they’re all here waiting.

And it’s very much that conversation about your guides are here to do this work for you so you don’t have to do the heavy lifting. You know, it’s something I talk about and teach my students around, you know, connecting intuitively, opening up as a channel, asking, what is it that they require listening to me from me today? Or what’s the message I need to write about in my emails? Would you say that that’s kind of the same thing of talking to your guides, or do you specifically call in? I’d like the email marketing guide or how do you how do you do?

I like how you’re doing it. I think you can get great insight. What can be really helpful is when you’re having those meetings with your guides in that 5 to 15 minutes.

So a lot of questions I get, you know common by name or you know what I say and I’ll say if you know their name, great. But what I do is I say, I welcome my personal teachers and guides. I welcome my business guide and then I’ll talk to them a little separately. So I’ll talk to my personal guides.

And then when I turn my attention to my business guides, I’ll say, Hey, this is what’s coming up. This is what I’m thinking about launching. These are the offers I’m considering. Can you give me insight on each one?

And then when I’m sitting down for an email or I’m sitting down for something, I’ll ask for any guidance coming in from my guides, and I’ll ask specifically for someone to help inspire me to write.

So for me, generally speaking, it’ll be like a storyteller guide usually when I’m doing emails. But if you feel like you’re struggling in your business, then call on a guide to help you with that. So if you say, You know, I’d really love to be on more podcasts, well, ask for PR specialist in your spirit guide team and they’ll start to connect you or inspire you to reach out to someone or find the right podcast picture kind of situation.

So you’ll start to see some of those gaps that you might feel are missing or that you don’t feel very strong in personally. Well, obviously we can fill it with someone that could work for us in our business. But talk to your spirit guides first, because they will give you some insight and help guide you to that person that needs to work on your team or help give you some training on a different area.

So I do like to talk to each one specifically, but that’s okay. If you don’t, it just comes in really handy when you start to notice.

Hmm. I’m feeling like I’m not getting as much inspiration in this area. Maybe I need to call in a new guide.

So I also I’m kind of hearing if you have a more linear, measurable, tangible goal, like I want to get on 50 podcasts this year or whatever that number is, you can reach out to your PR guides and say, can you help align me to 50 or more? You know, the aligned podcasts for me?

Yes. Absolutely. And talking to your guide about.

I will even get a little bit different with that and say I really want to focus on connecting with 50 podcast host that are in full alignment. So I’ll even go a little bit more with it in detail what I’m looking for.

Really specific…

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just so that they are on that same page and then talking in counseling with your guides about, you know, what, what did we need to do here? What lesson are you trying to teach me here? Let’s say you have an income goal and a lunch or for the year and it’s not a hit. Then you can ask your guides, What am I missing? What did I not pay attention to? Or Why did this happen? What’s the lesson here? And don’t forget to celebrate the wins.

You know, sometimes we get stuck in the negativity plays of this didn’t work out versus your guides are saying, hey we’re trying to tell you to pivot or trying to, you know, put this other offer in front and you kind of been neglecting it because you are so hard core and completing this plan. So I think pivoting is really important to you. And I have talked about that with launching in our business, the Spirit Guides

Totally. Well, I love to talk about that because. You know I know that both of us are very much in that same realm of like if it doesn’t feel good, you literally cannot force us to do it. You cannot.

And you were just sharing with me before because, like, you had to make a strong pivot in one of your recent launches and it does impact your team.

And so for the people who maybe don’t have a team yet or who feel really divinely guided to create this offer, to create this launch, and they’re doing what they thought they were supposed to do. And it doesn’t work out the way that they imagined that. I feel like there is like a real sweet spot here because I think that a lot of people get, you know, less than results and then they internalize it and feel really negative. And like, I thought I got this right. Why didn’t it work out? What advice would you have for folks who are in that predicament?

Yeah. So one, channeler, usually need to experience something before they decide if they were going to do it again.

I know that this could sound like a general concept for anybody, but channelers need to actually go through the process to see what feels good while they’re doing it, more so than serious impact.

So one, that can be an experience that you really needed. Another lesson is, a lesson.

Yeah, it’s a lesson that spirit wanted to see if you would do it, if you’re ready to put yourself out there. And what’s really interesting is, even though the number of people that you had in your mind was like your goal spirit, might be saying, Oh, no, we connected you with the right people who are then going to help refer your program and expand to a mass following or whatever it is. It’s more of there is a bigger reason behind it and there’s more lessons that you need to know.

So sometimes I’ve had a launch, didn’t go like I was hoping it would go, but spirit saying there’s more here, there’s more benefits coming down the road from this launch. You were guided for a reason and you just kind of let your ego perhaps try to pick a number of why it needed to work.

And one of the things I’ve noticed, too, is that we get too focused on money coming in through a certain launch or a certain way versus letting money come in through all the different ways that spirit showing. So spirit can say, you know, you did this launch and now people are on your email list to buy your higher ticket programs. And it’s going to be the same amount that you write for.

Right.

Just wasn’t in the lower ticket program, but it’s all coming through the same funnel. So they might go, what’s wrong with it that we get be what you ask for?

So you’re making me think of a couple of questions here. So one is yesterday I was hosting a class and somebody said I oftentimes manifest money through my husband, but I have a trouble when it’s directly connected to me in my work.

And for me, I was like, well, listen, it’s coming to you. It’s still coming to you. But I think there’s also something there that you can look at your container of how much you can actually tolerate receiving. If you can’t tolerate receiving and you’re manifesting that money and it’s coming in like. You know, it’s like it’s going to come in one way or another. Like if there’s a crack, there’s like, Oh, there it is coming in over here.

So I don’t know. Do you have anything more valuable to share with this? Like with this thought? Because I’ve had clients do it’s like we start working together. Like my goal is to make $10,000 a month and then all of a sudden this inheritance shows up like, well, I met my business. I’m like, so you got the I don’t know, we complained about $10,000 right?

I want to say the same thing with I would like why are you resisting receiving?

But also it could be kind of this block of I feel bad receiving money through my business when I’m helping people or feel like a bad person if I personally receive money in it and it’s an energy thing where it’s more of, you know, I feel better if it’s coming in over here and maybe you feel like a bad person not to receive money.

So I think it’s a deeper block, but also on a spiritual realm, I do feel that when that happens, the spirit’s also wanting you to look at the relationship with your husband of, okay, what are we together supposed to do? What lesson together am I supposed to learn here?

And this can also be a beautiful lesson that the two of you are great manifest together. So how can I incorporate my husband into this manifesting practice and do this even more?

So, it was interesting because my husband and myself, we kind of noticed this theme where I tend to be the better receiver and he’s the better giver. So if we work as a team, we can just amplify more of our intuitive abilities, more messages, more signs as well. So it can also be a little deeper of a, Oh, what’s the karmic connection or spiritual connection, or how can we better utilizes energy to work in our favor, which is really nice.

I love that. Do you work with specific goal-setting guides? Are there goal-setting guides that you work with to establish, like those numbers?

I’ll talk to my business guides.

So I’ll talk to my business guides and teachers and say, hey, you know, I would really like a business specialist, kind of like a COO, my spirit team for my business. And we’ll talk about what’s working, what’s not working and what the goals are.

But what’s worked really well for me is instead of focusing on the numbers, I’ll focus on the people. So I’ll say, you know, I am so excited to help and impact X amount of people in this program and I’ve just noticed a different shift and it tends to make more of a powerful connection because I’m connected more into my purpose rather than the money it’s going to bring me. So it’s almost like a little mind trick, but it’s also like connecting with the energy that that matters and why I’m doing it for my purpose. Not that money’s bad. It’s just gives a little bit more energy there.

Yeah, I feel the same exact way.

When I have an impact goal of humans. I have little tricks that I’ll do for myself of, like, holding an actual space for the people. And when I get into running numbers and calculating like how many people with what product and how much equals that, and I go, good. Like I get weird and I tell my team I like, just don’t make me get weird. Like, let’s just focus on the impact. And that to me is like exponentially lighter for me as well.

Yes.

Yeah, but just as far as goal setting, it’s just exponentially easier for me. So let’s, now I’m getting the okay for let’s, let’s talk about mediums. And before we were recording, I was like listen Whitney, I am like basic level not a medium. And I’ll say like, well, I’m not a medium, but. Something’s coming up. And for, for me, it was like years ago I was in this class about, you know, different types of intuition. And we were doing, oh my gosh, now I can’t think of what the word is. Oh, wow. It’s totally. When you hold an object.

And it’s like a cometary.

Thank you. I was like, it’s like science, like, cometary.

So I had never done it before. And we’re in this class of like 25 people in person and we’re kind of paired off and she has us close our eyes. And then the person we’re working with, like, puts the thing in your hand without looking at it, you just kind of feel the energy. And I was like, I was a natural. And at one point, one of the teachers was like, I’m literally watching all of the energy, like, flowing here, and. And I was like, Wow, I didn’t know I could do that.

And I felt like that was a real easy way to connect with past loved ones for me. But when I’m in session, I will – a nd from that, I sort of learned that when I feel and sense, and experience past love. Once I start to taste metal on my tongue, on my tongue does this weird thing. And so like it’s almost like I’m licking a battery and I’ll be in session or talking to somebody, and all of a sudden my tongue will start doing a thing and it’s like, Hold, please.

And I’ll sort of have to, like, shift my attention of like. Is, is there somebody here? Hello? And I’m like the words like I could do so much better if I had maybe more training, but I haven’t.

So, you know, I guess for people who are who don’t consider themselves mediums or who maybe are a little bit freaked out about what a medium is, can you kind of shed a little light on what a medium is, what a medium does, and kind of open up that conversation?

Yeah. So I have to tell you a funny story before I talk about mediumship, it’s related.

Yesterday I was drinking a drink out of my water, just clear water, crystal glass. And as I’m taking a drink, I’m smelling and tasting wet dog. I don’t have a dog anymore here. And I had this overwhelming feeling to reach out to my friends. So I reached out and I said, You know, I really feel like your dog is in spirit. And she used to love to go in the pool with her dog was like, I really feel like your dog’s here. And she had lost her dog a couple of months ago. Well, I didn’t hear back from her for several hours. And she said at the time that you sent me that message, I was helping my other dog transition into spirit. And it was such a beautiful message because that dog had come in to help her other dog at the same time. So we do get messages through tasting and smelling, but it seems weird, right?

Oh, yeah.

But anyway, it’s a message. So I just wanted to say, if you’re out there listening and you’re like, I got some weird stuff going on, you know, it definitely does happen. And Emily, I think that’s really great that you get the calling card of duty. We’re in a loved one in spirit here. We’re ready.

So mediumship, a lot of people think mediumship is just talking to loved ones in spirit, but it’s not. So mediumship is talking to spirit guides, talking to loved ones in spirit as well. But generally speaking, the way I teach is you can talk to your loved ones through your guides and they can give you information about past, present, future, health, career, relationship, and whatever’s going on with your family that’s passed or friends.

The key definition of mediumship is the act of delivering spiritual messages to others. So the key is that you need to relay messages to somebody else.

Intuition is the act of connecting to loved ones and spirit guides but for yourself. Mediumship will be giving others.

So a lot of people in their business, when they say Whitney, I want to talk to my spirit guides to help my clients to give more insight to what’s going on. That’s literally mediumship. Like you’re giving a method right there.

You’re watching my head being blown away right now. So what I’ve been doing is mediumship because I’m delivering messages for my clients. Okay, okay, okay.

Okay, the difference is, like psychic, for instance, is you connecting to somebody’s mind. Mediumship is you talking to spirits and delivering messages from spirits to them. So yes.

And we think of mediumship as the formal way, and you can definitely do it the way that I built my business and I went through two and a half year mediumship training and people can still be mediums without training.

Or you could just, you know, talk to spirit and give messages while you’re like, I have friends who get messages in their counseling sessions so they know what next questions to maybe ask to better help people. So that’s how it can flow into with mediumship.

But when someone gets really interested about their loved ones in spirit, which I’m going to hone in on. Or by the way, of pets and spirit, that’s the thing to.

You just need to ask for a loved one in spirit specialists. And your loved one and spirit specialist will go out to find the loved one in spirit that the client wants to talk to and will help you.

And generally speaking, that loved one should be able to come in about 85% of the time in a reading or in a message. They can’t come through all the time for other reasons, but most of the time they can. If you wanted to talk to pets in spirit, you can get a pet spirit specialist.

So there’s all these different guides to help you. One of the things I really feel guided to share is a lot of time mediums have trouble delivering the message. So like I’m seeing a red dot, you know, and a purple triangle, and I’m feeling this and I know this and I don’t know what it means.

So ask for a delivery specialist. Your delivery specialist is like the coordinator and organizes all the messages. So it comes down the pipeline or down the conveyer belt.So you’re like, I’m seeing this and this is what it means, and seeing this and this is what it means. So the more spirit guides that you can work with, the more understanding that you’ll have. Of course, you don’t want to ask for guides that you don’t need, but it helps make things more organized, and the delivery specialist can give messages that are even hard to deliver. So if there’s something that needs to come through and you’re like, Oh, I don’t know how to say this, they can help you with the delivery of it, too.

I love that. And I’m also hearing just, you know, how specific you’re calling in these guides for these specific tasks, which makes complete sense as well. I really love that.

Think about it like your team in your business. You know, you have somebody for this and for that. And in your personal life, you have a doctor that you go see, a friend that you talk to. You have a teacher that you’re learning a certain thing from.

So in spirit, the thing is, I kind of demystify the spirit world.I think a lot of people want to be a little bit more powerful. I know I’m the same way. I’m like, It’s just me. Just something. It’s fine. It’s spirit. So you can work with that.

So I think with your mediumship team, the three things I want to say is loved ones in spirit specialist, delivery specialist, and ask for a coordinator to help you with organizing all the messages to come through and to organize, especially if you’re going to be giving readings or messages in your business. Those are three guides that you probably want to ask for if you don’t feel like you already have. But sometimes we already attract them.

I’ve always been interested in astrology, so when I started giving readings, I’d be like, Who’s there’s a Leo in your life that you know is a male around this age range. So it was just really interesting to see how that came through.

Huh? That’s so fascinating. Well, this has definitely been insightful for me, knowing that apparently when I say I’m not a medium, I’m totally full of it because, in fact, I’m giving information. But that’s okay. That’s fine.

I also love the story that you shared about the message from the dog and something that reminded me just recently a friend of mine just had a baby and one day I was thinking of her.

She had come over like a few days prior and I was just thinking about her and I said, You got this, you are amazing and you so got this. And the next day I got a text message from her. She’s like, Oh my gosh, you’re so intuitive. I was literally in labor at that time when you texted me. And I was like, wow! I’m like, and so like, it doesn’t get old. And I’m always delighted to have those confirmations.

But I will also just say to people, we don’t always get those confirmations and it doesn’t invalidate the messages that we get.

And especially like through my certification, this is part of the process of teaching people, you know, just trust implicitly if you are getting that pink dot and circle and whatever you like. Okay, so maybe I am having difficulty right now, but maybe that does make sense later for them. Or maybe it will click a little bit later for you and you can give a more clear answer.

I was just watching my students practice sessions from over the weekend and one of them said, you know, the one thing I want to share with you is before the session, I got this really strong image of a maple tree and all the leaves were bright red. And I’m not really sure what that says, but and then she just went into this full channeling and it was like, listen, lady, like, you know, I’m gem credit.

And then her client on the other side, was like, well, first of all, I have maples in my house and I love Maples and it’s my favorite time of the year when they turn this color, blah, blah, like.

All this validation. And it’s like, okay, can we just like stop the I don’t know, is like this, it’s okay. You got this. And I think I’m sure you see that with your students too is like, I’m not sure what this means, but. Ba ba ba ba ba. And they just open up this incredible dialog that is so like you can feel all the energy with it.

Oh yeah. And the great thing is when all the energy comes out, the reason a lot of my students feel like they don’t trust it is because it’s so easy. Like they’re expecting it to be hard or they’re expecting it to be this booming voice that comes down like. Hello, this is what it is. It’s like, No, just go with it and go the flow.

But I did want to share a tip. So if you’re out there and you feel like I got the pink dot and I know I don’t know what it means, what I’d invite you to do, especially if you’re a channeler, but I’m going to invite you to instead of kind of squinting up, because that’s what happens when somebody is like, Well, I don’t understand that. What does it mean? Or You don’t understand it?

Your brain tries to make sense of it, and when you’re giving messages, you really need to come from a clear mind, like you’re mind needs to be clear before you’re doing mediumship or any kind of intuitive message.

So I’d invite you to have the thought of when I feel, What does it mean? I’m going to relax even further. I’m going to take a deep breath. I’m going to slouch in my chair. I’m going to kind of I don’t want you to imagine because that involves your brain.

But what I’m going to tell you, it’s like spirits bringing you the grapes, feeding you the grapes. So it’s like, I’m going to relax. I’m going to clear my mind even more and I’m going to get the meaning of it. And spirit likes to piece together things, so you might see the pink dot, but then all of a sudden you know the meaning or you hear the meaning or you feel the meaning, and just invite yourself to relax even more. Because a lot of times our mind likes to snapshot, and then that’s when all the trouble starts. Like maybe this or you know, maybe it means us.

I was doing one of my first readings and a psychic fair years ago, and I was talking to this woman and I saw two plus two equals four. Then if I try to figure that out, I could have come up with a lot of meanings, like you’re a math teacher or an accountant or whatever. And so I just relax, let my mind be clear. And the knowing came out and it was living situation. And I said, okay, so there’s four people in your house, but there’s two couples that live together. And she looked at me like I had spied on her with a video camera. I was like, Yes, so really know that your symbols have meaning behind them. Just relaxed into the meaning.

I love that this has been so much fun. I’m sure the listeners are going to feel the same way. If you’ve learned something, you’ve gotten a great tip. Would you please screenshot this? Share it with us over on Instagram. Tell some of your friends to go listen who’ve been curious about mediumship and intuition and psychic abilities and talking to guides like just share it. Like the more people who can hear this and truly connect with how it’s very light and grounded for us, you know, this is a this is not a scary conversation. This is very easy and light. And we want to just continue to spread that energy because I really feel that more people have these abilities and can work on them even more if they can just give them self-promotion, have a little playful fun with it as well.

So we’re going to be putting some great links in the show notes, how to connect with Whitney, how to get her planner. And really the main place where people connect with you is messengerofspirit.com, as that what you are on other social media places as well?

Yes, you can find me over on Instagram @messengerspirit. I’d love for you to DM me. Let me know your hobbies. And since you’re listening to this podcast, you can also check out mine.

Emily is the guest on my podcast as well, and it’s spiritual and ambitious and like she said, she’ll put my free Spirit Guide Meeting Planner out for you so that you can know what to say when you meet with your guys or those 5 to 15 minutes.

Love that. I’ve had so much fun chatting with you again and that podcast I did on your podcast, that was super fun as well. So we’ll just keep doing more of these and get together. So you guys need to, as a note, like it’s good to expand your Psychic Friends Network.

I love that. Sounds like one of those actual networks, right?

Do you remember? I mean, I’m totally dating myself, but you remember back in the day when people would have like a hotline, it was their friends network.So this is the real version of the Psychic Friends Network. And I have to say, Psychic Friends Network is the best to having friends who are very highly sensitive and spiritual. Make the best make the best friends, to be honest.

So I 100% agree. I also think that, you know, we get to be our true authentic selves. I feel like everybody should be their true, authentic selves, but it’s just nice to talk to the way that gets you. It’s like I was talking to spirit the other day, and it’s totally normal.

Yeah, just a random Thursday. That’s a conversation that we have. All right, listeners, thank you so much. Make sure that you leave us a little DM, share review. Give a nice little thumbs up or stars or wherever you’re at something nice and pay it forward. Share it with somebody you love. Thanks for being here and we’ll see you on the next episode.

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Try Whitney’s suggestion to start journaling with your guides for 5-15 minutes a day. Keep it simple for the best results. You can let them know how you’re feeling, and where you’re stuck, and practice receiving guidance back as you get to know them.

 

About Whitney

Whitney is a Certified Medium, Mentor, and host of the Spiritual and Ambitious podcast. She is the creator of the Messenger of Spirit Oracle Deck and her widely popular program, 4 Intuitive Languages® where she helps spiritual and ambitious souls learn how to understand their intuitive messages and communicate with their Spirit Guides. She’s helped over 10,000 people connect to Spirit.

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All right, warm welcome back to the podcast, friends! I am pleased to be joined by Adriana Keefe today. And we are going to dove into, you know, where you’re blocked in your Human Design and some strategies to help you overcome that.

I know, all of you, you’ve got about Human Design. I do, too. And I also kind of feel like it’s like a little bit of a foreign language to me that I haven’t quite picked up on yet. I know like how to count to ten, and that’s about it. And so if you are new to Human Design, I think this is a really fun place to start. I know my audience. We love to talk about money. And so Adriana and I were just saying before we started recording, we’d love to talk about money, too. So I’m sure that we’ll tie into this in a big way. But before we get into that, Adriana, I’d love to have my guests introduce themselves, let us know a little bit more about you and how you got to this place.

Of course. Well, thank you so much for having me. I was really excited about this recording because I love listening to your podcast and I love your energy. And we both say the F word a lot. And so I’m down with that. I’m Adriana. I’m from central Massachusetts. I am a mom of three, a wife, an animal lover. I love wine and swear words and new girl and Schitt’s Creek. And that’s probably all my favorite things right there. I love – I watch new girl like every week or so good…
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Well that and working moms. Have you seen working moms yet?

I’ve seen some of it. I haven’t watched it. Like it’s not the same degree. Like I’ve watched the show mostly.

Same but still good. So good.

Yeah.

So I’m a sucker for that type of show. I actually ended up marrying a man who very much looks like and acts like Schmidt. So love it!

Oh my gosh!

You know, that happened after the fact.

Hilarious.

But yeah, I started in coaching actually through the network marketing model. And my coach at the time was like trying to point out to me that I really should branch out on my own because I’m a very good coach. That’s my favorite part of the team. And during that time I was actually in real estate. I was so burnt out, I was exhausted. I was pregnant with my second child. I’m a very high anxiety person. I was stressed out all the time. I wasn’t sleeping and the market was kind of like it is now. It was just like four years ago that I stopped. So it was crazy and I, I needed to figure my stuff out. So I work with multiple life coaches and then a business coach and then I just ended up jumping in and I was like, why the hell not? I mean, I was on maternity leave. Let’s have fun.
Right. Well, going from real estate into coaching, like I can see there are some definite correlations and having to have patience, you have to be really self-motivated and self-driven getting yourself out there.

And I mean also with real estate like I know people who, you know, they struggle selling low priced houses and people who just have like these gazillion dollar listings and they’re like killing it.
And so there’s such a wide spread that you have to choose from and like where you’re living. We’re both in Massachusetts. I think that’s like the coolest thing. So when you finally dove into coaching, how did you decide sort of where you wanted to be in coaching this so broad? And it’s a saturated market. I mean, there are so many coaches out there and there’s a very low barrier of entry. So how did you start to differentiate yourself in your coaching?

I mean, luckily that was very similar to real estate, too. I mean, they’re a dime a dozen. It’s you, do you stand out or you don’t? And with coaching, it was not as smooth sailing from the get go as real estate. Like with real estate, I won two awards my very first year and it just kept on going. And then with coaching, it really took some time to find my groove, really took time to understand how to stand out because with real estate, you know, people either have to buy this, you know, this house or they’re ready to make the investment. They’ve been saving up for it.
But with coaching, a lot of times people don’t understand they need it until they really need it. And then it’s like, Well, do I want to spend the money and going through all that?
So that was definitely challenging navigating, learning how to sell myself essentially, and, and have them understand why this is important. And especially me because I was working with a lot of moms and moms are notorious for not spending on themselves. So even that took me a while.

But at first, I worked a lot in like the finding your purpose because that’s what everyone kept coming to me for. Like, how did you figure this out? How did you get here? What books do you read, what podcast do you listen to? So I did that. It didn’t take write off though. I mean, I had clients, but it wasn’t like the success that I always envisioned for myself. So working with different coaches, I play around with different offers. I always think having a business coach is crucial, no matter who you are, we all need one. And then it kind of transformed over time. I started to also, throughout this time, understand my own sense of spirituality.

I did not have any sort of spirituality for a very long time. I grew up in a Christian Catholic household. I never resonated with it. I unfortunately struggled for a few years with sexual abuse as a child and very much like, why would this happen to me, you know? So I lost all sense of faith then. And it was just over the past few years taking up yoga during that what I call my quarterlife crisis with real estate. I wanted to find a hobby, an outlet, and yoga, that’s what started everything for me. And it led to meditations like scripting, manifestation, and it just kept going. Reiki became certified and Reiki and all these things. So it just kind of spiraled out of there.

And so now the more I was working with clients, the more I was like, Yeah, but it’s not just about your goals. Like, what are you feeding your body? Are you getting movement in your day? And we would meditate in the sessions, and I started to realize, okay, I’m kind of a holistic coach. And then it just everything else that I was interested in that I would bring into my sessions, like manifestation, like human design, they wanted more of. So I really started to niche down which everyone’s afraid to do, right? So the more I niche down though, the more success I found and the more happiness I found because I was finding I came out of the spiritual closet, you know?

Yeah, yeah. And I know that feeling, too. When I came out of my spiritual closet, everything exploded. You know, you have self-doubt and fear that people are going to think you’re this, like, total weirdo. And I always personally had fears of, like, they’re going to see that I’m this super intuitive person and not want to have anything to do with me. Like, I don’t know why I would think that, but that’s what always stopped me. And similar to you with coaching, it was a progression of once I started to like let it out a little bit, then I let it out a little bit more. And then I was finally giving myself that freedom to be fully embodying.

I hear your story kind of similar, even with yoga, kind of getting you back into your body, reclaiming your body, coming back to yourself, and then being able to express that in other facets of your life. And then immediately with your work as well. And when you can see that your sessions are more dynamic and more robust, that builds confidence. And it’s like, well, damn, I guess this is this is me. This is how I want to be in my work. And when we can put that true, authentic self out there that we’re all doing what you love, like that is the gem. That is what we’re all hoping to do. And when you come at the world with that kind of energy, it is so yummy and magnetic.

So it does it does say, oh, yeah, she knows what she’s doing. And so I teach this in my programs too around being a specialist versus a general practitioner and standing out in a saturated market can be really challenging. And I think that on one hand, you know, folks want to grow business and they want to make an impact. On the other hand, there are so many subconscious saboteurs that are not permitting them from getting out there. And so I know we want to kind of dove into that because as we get into human design, you and I were kind of chatting about there are some there’s like this some groundwork that has to be done before you can truly unlock your human design.

So what have you discovered with your clients when you started to kind of activate them with your work?

It’s so funny because the more that I have started to understand the stories in the subconscious, the more I’m easily picking up on it. Like how you were just saying you don’t know why you felt as though being intuitive was like a bad thing. But if you think about it, when we were kids, I don’t know about your parents, but my parents would not go see a psychic like that would be weird. I mean, it..

Wasn’t weird in my family. It wasn’t even. It just wasn’t talked about it.
Well, yeah. There you go.

That’s part of it is like. These things are. Not just subconscious that happened to us in this lifetime, but when we actually do the real work, we find out where it was rooted from, from other lifetimes and and through generations. And so there is well-documented evidence that shows that our lineage carries imprints of what’s happened to our ancestors. So you might not have had like for me, like I wasn’t in a Christian home, I was in a Jewish home, and they didn’t care. And then my dad saw a Reiki practitioner. So it was not like taboo, but like he was a physician. So like, I guess like in that realm it’s a little bit like off from center. But it was never a thing.

And so you think like, where did that come from? Well, it wasn’t from this lifetime. I know that we can unpack so much when we really get hyper-focus. Like that’s part of our evolution as business owners is really all that internal work. We are not separate from our business, so our business growth cannot happen and we’re just like – no, I’m just here. I’m still like it literally. It’s not you can’t it does not work that way.

But at the same time, you don’t want to attach your self-worth to your business. And it’s just like this constant personal development journey. And you’re like, why in the world would I come into this quiet time and do this crap?

Exactly. I know I can’t wait to dove into more about epigenetics that fascinates me so much, but, you know, that’s a whole other topic. Um, I, I started seeing when I would work with clients or I mean, even with my own work, you know, we, they’d be really fascinated by something, they’d be in it. And then by the next session they’d be like, oh, with this, this and this. And I’m like, okay, why are they not seeing that progression? Why are they not holding true to what they want to do? Why are these affirmations feel bad to them? If you’re doing affirmations, they feel bad. That’s why would you, you can’t do that.

So I started to dig real deep and shout out to the Expanded Podcast by To Be Magnetic. They do a lot of this deep subconscious work. And I started to understand that.
And of course I read The Body Keeps the Score and learned so much about myself as, you know, the PTSD and everything. And the more I thought about it, the more I was like, wait, if we’re holding on to all of these stories and all of this subconscious patterning, how are we ever going? This is why we can’t reach those goals. This is why, like someone tells us, oh, this will work if you do this.

And then we try and do it, and then we fail and we’re like, Oh, that, why am I so bad at this? So you’re and your body manifests in all sorts of different ways, the stories that you’re holding on to, the trauma that you’re holding on to. We know that it does that physically with illness and whatnot. But what’s not talked about enough is that if you subconsciously only think you can make $5,000 a month and you truly don’t believe that you can get past that, you’re not going to get past that. So we need to dig deeper and figure out where did this come from, where did this stem from?
And a lot of the time, if you’re like me and you had a traumatic past, your memory is shot, like you can’t remember a lot of childhood. So when someone would ask me, Oh, go back to a memory and let’s work on that memory, I’d be like, I don’t know. I literally don’t know. But that’s where the powerful work with the subconscious mind hypnosis is something I’m doing right now.

That’s amazing!

Is, is like life changing because it brings up these memories that you didn’t know were still stored in your body, that you have so much resentment and or hatred or.
My biggest, biggest pattern that we found out was that I felt like a disappointment. Everything I did, I felt like a disappointment. And so I really had to work through that in order to move on.
That was continuing to hold me back. No matter how hard I hustled and pushed and did all the client meetings, it didn’t matter because I was still going to hold myself back and I. It just had to be worked out.

Yeah, absolutely. And even hearing you say that, it makes me think even the story I just shared around, like, people would leave me abandonment. Like, that’s like that’s my core wound of abandonment. And I too, like you like there’s very I have a very limited memory as a child and adolescent. And even when you don’t have the memories, it doesn’t mean you can’t access those places.

And so part of the work that I do energetically is as I tap into those places and I don’t have to have a story to hold on to, your energy field shows me where we need to go and where we need to begin. And it can become like a conversation of, okay, this is where let’s say we’re in your throat chakra at or in the throat chakra. And I’m feeling this constriction and all of a sudden I’m seeing this sort of video in my mind of the situation as a child and your Catholic school and the nuns are saying something to you, and then all of a sudden you were hit and you were punished and you were put somewhere else.

And you realize at that point, my voice doesn’t matter. You know, it’s like it doesn’t even have to be an actual memory. It can be what’s playing out in your energy field that needs to be cleared.
And so that is what’s so significant when you can finally realize that you have to unearth a lot of stuff so that you can truly heal past those things. And, you know, you don’t have to have the memory. You can obviously do hypnosis. You can do all kinds of work.

And I’ve even had people in certain circumstances say, like, they don’t remember exactly. And that’s okay if you don’t remember exactly, because your intuition will take you to the place that you need to do the work on. And from there that it’s like the next piece, the next piece, the next like. And with your when you’re with somebody as a practitioner who is highly skilled, they can hold the container for you to go wherever you need to go and to lead you or to hold the space or to stop or to stay or to clear or whatever they need to do for you. So it’s tremendous work. And it sounds like you’ve been really blessed to work on yourself with some really skilled practitioners and with your own work.

And I also did an Akashic Records reading, and that was also mind-blowing because there was some abandonment and loneliness there that also carried through into this lifetime. So yeah, just like you were talking about all the past lives and genetics and it’s all there. And now as you’re talking about your energy work, I’m like, Oh God, what are you picking up about me right now?

Like, hey, so, so, so… Okay, so here’s the fun part. Okay, so it’s kind of like I thought I used to think the same. I used to think the same thing when I started doing energy work when I was 18 years olds. I’ve been doing this for 23 years. And when I started going to school, I literally thought the same thing. I’m like everyone, it’s like I thought I was like just standing naked in the room.

Naked? Yes. Looking out there, peering into my soul.

Oh, my bit. I’m like, Oh, you can see it all! Oh my God! 😀

But here’s the thing. And the fun, fun. Fact about people who are highly sensitive or psychic. We don’t want to know.
Most of the time, like we don’t want to know and therefore we don’t get information coming at us. Also for me, so I’ve been doing this for a really long time. I actually find it to be very unethical to access some of this energy field without their permission.

And so I have like this happened to me. I was at a retreat somewhere. I was in Arizona. And this woman came up who’s very like. Well, very esoteric. Like she came up to me and basically gave me, this feels like you’re the chosen one. I have to tell you, this thing, it’s like really important that I do this activation for you. And I was like. Well, what? And I was like, it just sat really weird. And I was like, I’m like, what is she talking about on the show once? And I said something to a friend of mine who was at the same event, and I was like. What is this thing? She’s like, did you give her permission to access your field? I’m like, I did not. She’s like, that. It’s total bullshit.

Yes, that is what it is. I’m like, Thank you. It’s like, I couldn’t I couldn’t, like, put my finger on, like, why it was so uncomfortable. Yeah. And I was like, it’s so off.

And so to backtrack one, I’m not tapping into your field. However, there was a podcast episode when I was like years ago when I was with somebody and I was talking to him and all of a sudden I was like, oh boy, I just started coming in. I was like, oh, podcasts exclusive.

I’m sorry, can you please put your clothes on?

Getting some information now relevant. And I did start channeling a little bit for him on the podcast. But typically that doesn’t happen and it’s really, you know, it’s like an on-and-off switch.
And so my like they know when I’m on it when I’m not on. And podcasting is not one of those times, typically speaking.

Good to know.

So you’re safe, you’re safe, you’re wrapped up like a cozy little.

I didn’t even think about that when we first started until you said it. And I was. Like, Oh. 😀 Because were all been sick here we all have colds. And so I’m like, not in my best today. So it’s like, Oh, no!

It’s all downhill from here. Well, so also you know, it’s, it’s funny. So a lot of the things that we’ve already talked about are things that I do teach in my certification. And so I created the certification not only to teach the energetics and advanced energy healing, but also the business ethics and how to actually create a profitable healing business. So for coaches and healers. And so part of it is to be able to do all this work and to package it and to get it out there for people. So I do teach. If people are listening, they’re like, Oh yeah, how do you do those things? I will teach you, but not right now. But I digress. I, you know, I ask so many questions. I get so into conversation that I’m like, wait, we’re not even on topic anymore. So I’m going to rein it back in. And we’re going to talk about before you dove into human design types, I know it’s really important that you clear some of the energy before that begins. So you’ve kind of discovered that, I’m sure, with seeing your clients, right?

Well, the thing about human design is it’s all about conditioning of the world and how it’s imprinted on you and how you’re no longer who you were born as and who you’re designed to be.
You’re masking yourself and your insides are like screaming to get out, even if you don’t realize it. And so when we want to decondition or… I’m sorry, when we want to live more in alignment with who we are, we have to decondition ourselves from where we’re currently at. And I believe a lot of that work starts with the subconscious. Because you, you know, I have known about human design for a few years now.

And then I would, you know, dabble in it here and there, and I’d try the strategy and the authority and sometimes it worked well. Sometimes it was not. It was like resistance. And I didn’t fully understand why until I really started to do work and really wrap my brain around, you know, the books and the teachings of it. And it was all my subconscious blocking me from everything and all the old stories I was telling myself. So when I started actually implementing this into my business like that is my business strategy is just living in alignment with my human design. That’s my strategy. And when I started living by that, that’s when business exploded. And so I was like, Oh shit, something is here. And it’s more than just like reading my horoscope or something because it’s astrology based. So there’s a lot with astrology.

And then I started doing the work with my clients, and you would just see the deep stuff that came up and this relief, this feeling of relief from them, it’s not even like they were purposefully holding it back some of the time. It’s just like, Holy shit, I didn’t know that was there. But now that it’s out there, I’m like, Wow, I feel so much better. And it was almost like this permission to move forward.
Yeah. So what would you say? I mean, we were talking about the different human design types, sort of. What would you say? You know, you see what we’re saying. Like maybe it’s not a pattern, but some commonalities within each type.

And I will say this, the woman who does my podcast show notes, Nicole, who is definitely going to be listening to this, is been she’s been super into human design lately. Hey, sometimes she’ll ask me questions like she asked me a question of like, do you know if your solar plexus is open? Do you know if your route is open? Is it whatever? And I was like. Listen, I’m just going to give you all my birth chart and you can find that out for yourself. And then you tell me that. And she’s like, Oh yeah, it is. It’s fully developed. That’s why it’s easy for you to know that. I’m like.

Do you know what your type is? Do you remember?

My manifesting generator?

Okay, me too. So do you know what her type is?

I would be like, Yes, I do know exactly what that is.

Oh, no, I can’t remember everyone’s.

I don’t know.

It’s just me, right?

I mean, there’s all.

These numbers on here. This is the body language, right? It it’s so even with the work that I’ve been doing over the past couple of years, there’s still so much I don’t yet know and I’m constantly learning about it. It’s very in-depth.

Yeah.

So I try to teach it from a very underwhelming way. So that people don’t feel like you’re feeling like, what are all these numbers? What are these planets? It’s just it’s a lot. So baby steps, baby steps.

Let’s go, let’s go. Let’s hit each of the design types and sort of get a little information for folks who are new to it or maybe want to go a little bit deeper. Because really, I really feel like more and more and more people I know are using human design or gene keys and really accessing that next level in their business. So I think this is like the present and I think it’s also the future of business growth.

Mm. I agree. Yeah.

So okay, we’ll start with the five types. There’s the generator, the manifesting generator, the manifester, the reflector and the projector.
Reflectors are super uncommon, only about 1% of the population. So I’ve only ever actually met three people who were known reflectors and I was like, can I have your autograph?
But we’ll talk a little bit about like how they can be supported both when they’re in their business and by other people. So, you know, everything I’m about to say, you can tell your husband, your wife, your partner at work like this is who I am and this is what I need from you. And this will be very supportive for you.

So as a generator, they’re about like 35% of the population and they’re very much like the workforce energy. They have the energy that can like go, go, go when they’re feeling really lit up by what they do. They have that defined sacral center, which is what your podcast, was talking about. And what they really need, what really works for them is to tap into that sacral response. And what that is, is their gut response.

So generators tend to be very vocal, like if they’re having a piece of like delicious pizza, you might hear, oh, or someone’s like, Do you want to go out tonight? And they’re like, Oh, like that vocal response. That’s a very natural for them. And that’s literally their answer. If it’s their authority as well. So your strategy is the way that you interact with the world around you, and your authority is the way that you make decisions.

So for generators, they have that defined, sacral center. They want to tap into that gut reaction. But if their authority is different, like emotional solar plexus authority gets a little bit more in-depth, a little bit different, but we’ll leave that for you can find information on that on my website. So I’ll give you that at the end. So with generators, they can also sometimes seem slow with projects because they need to, like, get one thing finished before they can move on to the next. That’s very hard for them to jump around, which is what my husband and I found out. When I found out he’s a generator and I’m a manifesting generator, it was like, Oh, because he would get so frustrated if he had to stop what he was doing and maybe help me with the kids, or I was all of a sudden working on a different project, he’d get frustrated with me because why are you hopping around? I get frustrated with him because I’d be like, Why can’t you hop around? And then we understood, like, he just needs to finish something. So sometimes that generator type can seem slow, but what it is, is they just want to complete something before moving on.

So asking generator? Yes or no questions, waiting for that defined sacral response and then allowing them to finish the projects that they need to finish. And so think about that. Taking it into work, ask yourself, what was my initial reaction when this opportunity came up for me? And then how can I make sure that I complete one project before moving on to the next? Super important.

Great.

With a manifesting generator like myself. Another big part, big portion of the population number like 37%. Very much that workforce energy. We are similar to a generator where we have that defined sacral center and that gut response. But we tend to seem a lot more speedy because we can hop around, we can do a bunch of things at once, and that’s natural for us. This is the very first thing that caught my eye with human design.

My business coach at the time said, I think you really need to look into human design because I was going through this identity crisis, I was growing up and my I always had multiple jobs.
That’s me. I was always like, how can I make more money? How can I do all the things? And I jump from one thing to another. And I was always thinking I was being viewed as a quitter. I would get bored of something. I did the same thing with my boyfriends. I get bored and I’d move on. I hadn’t.. my aunt used to call them flavor of the week and it wasn’t really like they were like, don’t judge me, but that’s who I was.

And then so when I first saw that I was a manifestation generator, multi-hyphenate will be passionate person. Who moves quickly to do things and then just as quickly after those things is that was so validating. So, understanding as a manifestation generator that it’s good for you to have multiple things going on, both for hobbies and for work.
And define sacral center saying yes or no to things. And listening to that response and encouraging manifesting generators to find more hobbies or to follow that spark, that passion. Tell them it’s okay to have so many different interests.

But when you’re doing this in business, know that you know within reason because you don’t want shiny objects syndrome. But at the same time know that if you’re feeling like you’ve tapped out of where you’re at, you don’t have to stay there. That was very much me. With teaching the purpose work and working with moms and the decluttering space. I felt like I was tapping out, but there was that part of me that was like, Yeah, but I’m kind of already known for this and well, a lot. And you have to understand that you’re made to learn something, excel at something, teach it to others, move on.

I would agree with that as well. And as a manifesting generator, I know I can really only do things that I am super ecstatic and lit up about. And if I’m not there, it’s like you. You cannot make me.
I last, at the end of last year I was going into a launch for a program that was no longer lighting me up and I was like, No, we’re not doing it. I stopped and I was like, I. I mean, there was like 900 people signed up for this challenge that I was leaving them in to join in this proven model that. It had multiplied and tripled attendance. Each time I opened it and it was proven like. It was not if people join, it was like, how many will I allow it? The thing was cranking and I was like, This is about like, I don’t want this anymore.
Good for you, that’s so hard to walk away from. So it’s really good…

Yeah. For me, my team was like, well, why are we going under? So I was like, You’re all going to be fine. Just… Just trust me on this. Like my ship. If we all drown, we’re all going to die. Yeah, I’m going into an iceberg. It’s going to be great.

But truly. I think that. I mean, I would add on to that is saying like, you know, it’s good to I have multiple passions and I you can’t make me do things I’m not excited about, that’s for sure.
That’s what really leads to burnout as an either generator type is when you’re not feeling lit up by something and you’re forcing it. Well, that’s when you’re working 40 hours plus a week and you’re not making the money you want to make. You’re not lit up by what you’re doing.

And I will add, like my one of my programs is a membership that every single month I’m doing something different. And so it just feeds my soul like it’s like my gem master. I just get to geek out about it. And every single time what am I excited about? And I channel and I get to do whatever I want to do. And it’s nice to have that outlet that you don’t have to be like so formulaic with.
Yeah. It’s so funny because I have the same thing. I have another business that I recently started, and it’s a spiritual wellness collective. So every week we have different workshops with different healers, and that also feeds my like, ooh, new and interesting, you know.

Yeah, yeah, it should be scratch.

Yes, exactly. But then the same as like with the generator, like we also need to remember that we need to slow down sometimes and not allow ourselves to get into that overwhelm space. We have a ton of energy, but we also need to remember to rest and rejuvenate. Like everyone right now.

So with manifesters, they’re really, really good initiators. Like they have an idea and they’re a go-getter and they run with it. Don’t try and control them like they just need to be in their zone, doing their thing, having control, and asking them too many questions can be too can come across as controlling to them. So if you’re a manifester and you’re feeling like you’re struggling with that lately, you’re struggling with this sense of anger wherever it’s coming from, and you can’t pinpoint why you’re feeling frustrated. It’s likely that people see something someone’s doing somewhere. You’re feeling like you’re being controlled by somebody. And that’s really difficult for you.

Oh, autonomy is really, really important for a manifester. So knowing that it’s how can I build my business in a way where I have the control and I can be the go-getter delegating as necessary because you don’t have that generator energy. So yes, you can go balls to the wall and take on something, but it’s also important to delegate.

And I kind of giggle when you said that too because my husband’s a manifester and I could ask him like the simplest question. He’d be like, why do you need to know?

Like, Oh, I, I, I know…

you’re all over me woman!

All I know is, like, has nothing to do with work. It has to do with, like, hey, where are you? Like, on his phone. In the truck. Where are you? I’m driving. Mm.Yeah. Like you near that town. Just a touch. I’m on the highway. Oh, like in this state. This region. 😀

And that’s a manifesting generator trait is the informing. A part of our strategy is to inform others of not asking permission but to keep people in the loop when we’re making decisions. And then we also feel frustrated when people aren’t doing the same in return. So that’s a part of being a manifesting generator. I need to know what’s going on at all times. Because we’re speeding 19 place. Like, where is that place sitting exactly?

Yeah.

It’s hilarious.

Totally normal. Yeah, it makes so much sense.
I think in the future there might be a future for me with human design and relationships or sex because it really intrigues me and like the the couples. But anyway, so manifesters there’s also because they don’t have that generator energy it’s really important for them to settle down and kind of slow their mind and such, especially before bed, because that’s when like the racing thoughts can come through and having some sort of rest and rejuvenate before actually settling down for the day is really, really healthy for them.

And I literally just said this to my husband the other day. Yes, we’re watching how to get away with murder. And he couldn’t sleep after. I was like, you need to clear yourself.
And like, you’ve got to really, like, rest before going to bed. He’s like, I don’t know. I just can’t watch it. Like, that’s all we want to do, girl, because it doesn’t get him all amped up before bed. So it’s hilarious.

That’s part of his type.

Emily, I wonder what he’d say to all of this. You probably be open to it. He’s married to you. Within reason. Like little friends and so little friends. So, I mean, he doesn’t judge me anymore for all this good do. But he is. He’s like little sci-fi. Debatable.

Oh, good. So the next two types that we talk about, these are very much more of like, we need to rest. Like, take that kind of sort of like it’s a joke, but not really, but projectors. They’re very, very good at seeing what other people don’t see. They are very good guides and leaders and they give great feedback and advice.
B
ut that being said, part of their strategy well, their strategy is to wait for an invitation before giving that guidance or giving that feedback. If not, that’s when a lot of like bitterness feeling comes up. Like the other person’s like I didn’t ask them why are they trying to feel superior to me? And then the person who is the projector is feeling like, why is it feel like I’m talking to a wall? Why does this not feel right? And so waiting for that invitation. Waiting for the initiation of whatever it is that you’re trying to do is a huge, huge part of a projector. Now, it doesn’t mean So for projectors, I always suggest playing around with like, you know how Instagram on the stories has like the question stickers and everything. That’s literally an invitation for you right then and there. Like do a poll, do a question, and then for people who respond to it, then you start the conversation. So that’s one of those fun projects I like to give my projector clients when they’re feeling like they can’t move the needle on finding clients or growing their business. Well, are you asking are you opening up that door for them to ask you that?

Yes. Doing the biggest eye roll right now for people who can’t see me because I’m like it says I… In part of my coursework, I was putting together the framework for attracting so many clients. And there are like that’s. One of the main ones is like, well, are you just throwing things out there like anybody say that they worry about or Yeah, what I want to hear. Is this all for me? One of that.

Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

Not that

Right?

Call like, hey, would you like this 19 item checklist? Like, no, no, I don’t want it. Could you give me that one thing that’s at the top of it, though?

Yeah. Yeah, right then number one. Sure. That’s exactly it.

That’s who they are as projectors like they can. They’re they’re great coaches because they really see with, like, a whole new set of eyes. But but they really need to make sure that they’re being invited into that conversation.

Projectors. They’re very much known for only being able to work a few hours a day without needing rest. And what I mean by work is like to be in the work, like to be in your clients doing emails.
Now if part of your work is like educating yourself and maybe doing a training or something like that and that feels useful to you. That’s not so much what I’m talking about, but it’s really being in the work. After a couple of hours, you really tired, so it’s really important for projectors to put in their work day like maybe literally an hour or an hour hike or whatever feels like rest to them. Maybe you just turn off your brain by watching some trash TV like whatever it is, create space within your day to make sure you’re clearing that and you don’t get lost in all the doing. That’s when you’ll really hit a wall. Your energy isn’t right. Nothing will be right.

Yeah. This is like textbook. One of my team members is a projector, and this is like her to an intuitive and she knows her human design type and like she’s really, really great at giving herself budgeting hours to, like, only do it.

Good for her…

And even if we’re, like, getting close because she only works for me 10 hours a week and she, she’ll let me know I’m already at nine and a half. I just wanna let you know that that task will probably need to wait until next week. I mean, very good boundaries and I love that about her and I respect that about her. So it’s like, okay, great, we’ll just budget that for next week. And yeah.
Because also, you know, the work won’t be done to the fullest extent of her energy if she’s at that point. So like why be the boss? That’s like, no, I really need this now. That’s not good for her or you.

Yeah. And in fact. Even after this recording, I invited her to be on a call. I was like, she might need to be here. Like, I know. I need to invite her. Yes. It’s always like you’re telling me the story of my life with these Devi types. I love it. I know I’ve done workshops for companies and it’s very it’s really fun seeing how they interact with each other and how they go, oh, about like, oh, that person works this way. Oh, that’s why. And it’s really eye-opening. It’s cool to watch.

So lastly, we have a reflector. Reflectors are considered lunar beings. So like the moon, lunar. And all of their centers are open, they have no definition. So this can lead to a lot of conditioning from the outside world if they’re not living in their authentic design. Now what, what this means for them in decision making and in doing anything big, whether it’s building a business, buying a house, getting whatever it is. They need to wait a full 28 days, a full lunar cycle in order to make a decision. So it’s like filtering all through all of their centers and then they make it. So it’s difficult in this in this society, you can’t, like, put a bid in on a house and then say.

Well, can you just give me, like, 28 days to make sure I really want it? It doesn’t really work that way. But for the decisions that you can make, make sure you’re not jumping into a new business investment without waiting that lunar cycle and reassessing and making sure you find your clarity. That is probably one of the biggest mistakes with someone who’s a reflector and doesn’t know it or doesn’t understand it is they jump into things and then they resent it. They regret it or they end up, you know, quote, failing. I don’t believe in failure, but it’s not right for them. Whatever it is, they lost a bunch of money. That is exactly why they’re not following that lunar cycle and waiting for that clarity.

So because they need that full cycle, I always think of like a woman in labor, because when I was giving birth to my kids, they would always remind my husband, you know, well, I gave birth at home. So it was very different than in the hospital. And so they’d remind the midwives, remind my husband of like suggest things to her because if you straight don’t ask her what she wants. She’s not going to know. She’s in so much discomfort, whatever.

And that’s how I feel about reflectors. You want to help them by suggesting, suggesting places or people or whatever the recommendation is and allow them to find the space that they need. Maybe if it’s a small decision, not really 28 days, but you can at least give them recommendations and suggestions and that helps them to make a decision on the spot for whatever it is they need.
And they really need to embrace fluidity because having their open centers means that every time they’re around someone else with any sort of defined center, they’re taking in that energy.
So if they’re not careful, it can really treat their bodies poorly, but it can really be like a cool chameleon type of, say, acid or tree, you know, like, yeah, they can embrace the fluidity and enjoy the ride of being a reflector.

It can be really cool. I actually kind of wish I was a reflector sometimes because it’s just really unique. It’s cool.

It is very unique. And I mean, you said like there’s like 30% of this and 30. Is there a percentage on reflectors?

1%.

Okay. I would imagine that.

One person.

Yeah. And I mean, even as you said, like they have to wait a whole lunar cycle. Like everything my body like tightens up as. I’m like making 19 decisions as you just said, that one word. It’s like, oh,

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I know it, right? It’s got to be hard, man.

Yeah, it’s got to be hard.

And I mean, if you think it’s kind of.

Pare back as a coach to know what your client’s design type is or to know what your team members team in design type is, it can help you better lead them and to understand what they’re working with. And if you know you have a client, you give them like, here’s an assignment that I need you to do this kind of research and get this kind of thing done. If they’re delaying, it might not be because they’re lazy or procrastinating, but they actually do need to take longer to absorb the assignment and make some decisions and to really embody it. And then maybe like an hour a day. 28 days later, they might have something more spectacular.

I think it’s also like glaringly obvious. It demonstrates why we can’t look at other people’s businesses or models and think that that is the thing that’s going to help us to fix everything. Because what works for one person I was when I used to sell my mastermind and you know, even past that, it’s like you need to create a one-size-fits-you business model.

Oh, yes.

Because one size like they’re making the thing from their life path, from their personality traits to human design, like like what happened to them in the course of their lifetimes.
Like, that’s their own distinct plan. And you can’t say that that is possibly going to ever work for you because you’re from a whole other place. And we, we think that, oh, well, I bought this person’s program and I want to follow their ten steps process. But for some reason not working for me. Obviously, I suck. I’m a failure.

Yes. That is literally why I started doing this branch of my business. Yeah, I was working with a coach. She was great. Didn’t doesn’t have a grasp on human design or anything like that. But, you know, she pushed this strategy and I was like, this is brutal, man. Like, I don’t want to do that. And a lot of the other people were saying the same thing. One person it worked well for and that just led us to feel like we aren’t cut out for this coaching life. Like, and that’s not how anyone should feel because it’s not, it’s not the same for everyone. It can’t be.

No. And that’s, I think, part of what’s coming up, you know, as the paradigm shift from online business and coaching, you know, I believe that the people who are leading and are not trying to be these false gods to people and they’re not trying to give them the way, but rather lead them back into themselves, are the ones who are going to thrive. And I feel that in my body, you know, I feel like, you know, as coaches, you’re doing people a disservice if you’re just giving them the one cookie-cutter way.

And like, you know, I actually I have a friend who is and somebody is like a really high ticket, you know, coaching program that you teach how to never even have to do sales calls and you close these like high ticket things, whatever. And even within that, they’re like changing frameworks. It’s like this is the problem is like it’s like things change. And if it’s so set in stone and it has to be that way for it to work, then maybe that’s a problem. And, you know, I think that that’s been my life historically, too, is I go against the grain and I do things maybe backwards or upside down, but it’s the way that works for me and that feels right in my body and it leads to success. And I feel like we all need to give ourself permission, whether it’s to listen to your human design or listen to your body to give yourself permission to do what feels right for you.

And so I think that’s really is an amazing door opening. I think this is an amazing invitation for people to get a taste of their human design here. What’s resonant for them? I would love to hear after you guys have listened to this episode, what really has resonated? What sticks out the most? Was it about you? Was it about a friend, a partner, or somebody in your business that really helped you to get clarity?

And if you’re wanting to know more about this kind of work and where Adrianna is kind of moving her business direction into, you’ve now created a program where you’re teaching people how to use human design in their business, which, again, I feel like it’s the present, but it’s also the future. So if you want to check out more of Adriana, like, where can I find you? What’s the best way for them to work with you or learn more about their own or just kind of dove deeper?

Yeah, my website is my full name, adrianakeefe.com On there you can learn about coaching. I also do speaking. You can book a chart reading as well. But I also have the human design program that you were talking about for business owners who are really tired of the hustle and grind and are frustrated and can’t figure their way out. I’m in a program right now. I’m thinking it’s going to launch into a course, though, this probably January. So stay tuned for that.

I’m also on Instagram. That’s probably my most active platform and that’s adrikeefe. I have a podcast called Women Who Want More, not specifically human design tailored, but more inspiration, motivation kind of podcast.

Awesome.

Well, I know they’ll be finding all the things, of course, you know, if you guys are on a walk or driving, we will have all these links right in our show notes right there for you, conveniently waiting for when that time is right.

Of course, right now you can take a screenshot of this week’s episode and hop over onto Instagram and tag me and Adriana in your Instagram stories. Let us know you were listening and for sure DM us, let us know what some of the biggest takeaways were. If you love this episode, please share it with a friend and leave a review on your favorite listening platform.

Thank you so much for being here, Adriana. It was so fun to dove into all this work with you and and to have some good laughs and maybe have some little sidebar conversation in the middle of it. Those are my favorite kind of podcast that we can really just kind of let it breathe and just have a good day. Thank you so much. You’re so fun to talk to. I could do this all day. Right?
Let’s do that. And I know I’ll be on your podcast soon, so, stay tuned for that.

Yeah.

Thank you for that. All right. Listeners, thank you for being here, as always. Lots of love and have a wonderful, wonderful week ahead.

Action Steps To Align Your Biz:

 

Try downloading your Human Design Chart at myhumandesign.com to start exploring ways you can align your biz. It can be complicated, so start small and play with it to see what you notice when you align with your design.

 

About Adriana

Adriana Keefe is an award-winning real estate dropout turned Human Design Coach and Speaker. She works with high-achieving women on how to create harmony in life without sacrificing their goals. Host of the podcast Women Who Want More, she strives to coach and teach through an entire mind, body, and soul experience.

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