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Stop Second-Guessing Yourself and START Growing Your Business!

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The Magic of Intuition Week and Why This “Woo” Stuff Works!

The Magic of Intuition Week and Why This “Woo” Stuff Works!

The Magic of Intuition Week and Why This “Woo” Stuff Works!

Are you wondering what the heck an “Intuition Week” is and why you would even care about this?

Or maybe you’ve been part of Intuition Week before and want to know if this is right for you again?

Well, Intuition Week is back, baby! And I’m more excited than ever to be able to serve you in this way. It’s an opportunity for you to experience my energy healing and meditations in a very intentional way to help you get unstuck and more abundant in just one week!

In this episode, I share more about this unique opportunity for us to connect in the community with light-minded individuals to harness the power of group energy to create true and lasting change.

I hope you’ll join me!

Highlights you won’t want to miss:
  • Money blocks, why we tackle them first.
  • Who is this experience for?
  • Why we connect to Spirit Guides (how does this help your biz?)
  • Exploring the fears of putting yourself out there.
  • The magic of connecting with your Higher Self.
  • The power of an amazing networking community.
  • More about Master Energy Clearings!

Click here to read the full transcript

Welcome back to the Aligned & Unstoppable Podcast. I’m your host, Emily Aarons, and I have a very special episode for you, this week because normally we have podcasts come out every other Tuesday, but this is a Thursday episode, and for good reason. I have something very special for you.

For those of you who’ve been with me for a really long time, you may have participated in one of the most epic events that ever was. One of my very favorite events and probably the best event that I’ve ever created, which is called Intuition Week. So if you’re new around these parts, you’re like, well, what is she talking about? Sounds good. What’s Intuition Week?

I’m going to give you a little bit of the background on how Intuition Week became a thing. The evolution it’s gone through as well as why you want to sign up for it this week. And in the podcast show notes you are going to see a link to join. It’s and until April 23rd you can get 50% off. Intuition week is only $11. So if you missed the special, it’s okay. But if you happen to be hearing this on Thursday, hurry, get that spot. It’s only $5.55 for a limited time only!

And this is for like the people who’ve been there forever, who’ve done it multiple times. We want to reward you. We want to celebrate with you and say, come on back. We have not done Intuition Week for a year and a half and we could not be more excited to offer this special event again. So, link in the show notes –

Let’s get to the story. So what is Intuition Week and why do I care?, you’re asking. So Intuition Week is an opportunity to experience me – my work, my energy clearings live for an entire week, so the schedule is pretty intense. It’s a Monday, Wednesday, Friday – Energy Healing. We start Monday morning on May 15th. (I should have of double check my calendar :-D) on May 15th, on Monday, we start with what everybody wants a Money Block Clearing. In addition to the Money Block Clearing,  I also give you a challenge.

So it’s not just yeah, I feel amazing. It’s also it’s time to put this to play. And everybody loves the homework assignment from day one because they get money. Simply put, they get money. We have seen people, you know, earn hundreds of dollars, thousands of dollars, get unexpected checks in the mail, get refunds, get gift cards. We’ve had folks who said, well, they were expecting a child support payment for the last five years and it just happened to come in that day. Just an amazing story.

So the community that we have with Intuition Week is outstanding and obviously, it’s very celebratory and positive and uplifting from the day that we start. And so I deliver my energy work live right into the group. So when you join me, you’re going to get that. But also even if you’re on the other side of the planet and you won’t get it until the replay, the energy is programmed.

And so I’m channeling I don’t even know what I’m going to say until it comes out of my mouth. So the energy is program for everybody who’s registered. And even if you’re live or on the replay, the energy is still very potent. I mean, I’ve had people watch the replays of past Intuition Weeks, even years later, and go, Oh my God, was so good, which is why I want you to sign up for it again.

It’s an amazing opportunity for you to start getting into your intuition so you can stop second-guessing yourself. And primarily Intuition Week is for coaches, healers and leaders who want to start using your intuition to grow your business.

And the thing is, is that we follow other people’s formulas to do different things, which is fine, except if you’re somebody like me who, you know, you follow me else’s formula and it doesn’t exactly pan out the way that you expected. The results are subpar. Maybe it feels a little off. Maybe you don’t feel comfortable with whatever they’re telling you to do. It’s because it’s out of alignment.

And so what Intuition Week is helping you to do is get into your highest alignment so that you can use your intuition to be led in your business as well. So during the five-day live experience, you are going to learn how to, like I said, Clear Your Money Blocks.

Then we get into a live Q&A. You can literally ask me anything. It gets kind of wild and fun. I love the Q&A – is on Tuesdays and Thursdays because, you know, like everybody has a million questions like, what about Spirit Guides? What about it,  is there a Spirit guide or Angel for my business? What about my past loved one What happens when you die? Are chakras involved with your business? So like, the questions can be very broad and very specific and I’m going to answer all of them.

And we get into really fun conversations where people, you know, we can find limiting blocks and beliefs. And even just in the Q&A, people are having amazing experiences. There was a woman named Lilith who participated in one of the last Intuition Weeks, and she said, my spirit guides were hugging me and assisting me. That was from when we did our spirit team connection.

So the next thing that we do is I help you to tap into your own spirit team. So, your spirit guides can come in all forms, shapes and sizes. They can be plants and animals, angels, ancestors, past loved ones.

And so with this journey that we do on Wednesday, you get to really discover who is there to support you. And how can you harness this connection when times are tough, when you’re at your wit’s end, when you’re overthinking your over processing and just everything is going wrong, you will be able to forge this connection with one of your spirit guides so that you can always go back to this. So even past Intuition Week, participants can connect back to those guides that they first met during Intuition Week.

The other thing that, that does and, you know, clearing your money blocks, connecting with spirit guides, what that helps you to do is attract your soulmate client. So during the week we also have reported people have participants that I’m, I’m getting people finding me on social media, people are emailing me somebody wants to book one on ones with me and I haven’t ever had that happen.

So a lot unlocks, because your energy becomes so potent and so magical that it’s like you’re taking a drink out of the fire hose of, like, positive energy all week long. And so what that does for you is it gets you into your highest alignment and then it draws people in a very authentic and soulful way.

So, you know, and sometimes people come to me that like, you know, I’m afraid of putting myself out there because people are judging me. And in this week period, for Intuition Week, something shifts. And suddenly they realize and tap into their potential and realize I actually need to share my message because somebody out there needs me from a really loving place.

The next thing that we do, again – Tuesdays and Thursdays Q&A, and then on the Friday, which is always like the fan favorite, the best day ever, which is you’re connecting with your highest self. And not just, you know, thinking about your highest self, not just imagining your higher self, but deeply, energetically imprinting and integrating with your higher self.

And so what that looks like is while typically on all of the different days that we do this energy healing and people are having emotional releases and crying and and having like epiphanies and new ideas and feeling inspired and also just deeply relaxed and connected with themself.

And so when you connect with your higher self, I’m allowing you to go on your own journey. To see what your higher self has to say and what is what do they look like and how do they feel, how do they respond, how they react.

And then when you become embodied as your higher self, you all of a sudden are showing up more powerfully, more confidently, more poised, more trusting in yourself, like you are a different person, like the me who was talking to you, like the Emily, like I have my own problems, my own insecurities, my own setbacks. But when I’m connected and plugged in with my higher self and fully integrated and embodied, I show up powerfully. And so every time you know, I do my work, I’m in that state. And so we have breakthrough.

So somebody shared, her name is Jennifer Bryan. She said, “I absolutely loved it. The meditations were amazing. The energy was fantastic.”

Caralila Turner said, “Wow, I’ve done intuition week three times and each time has been great.”

So I want to talk about that.

So if you’re somebody who is a returning member to Intuition Week, not member but participant. The reason why you come back is really clear. Number one, you grow and evolve. So where you were a year and a half ago or further, you’re not that person anymore. And so likely what happens every time is that you’re going to start getting bigger, more profound, psychic or intuitive hits.

The next thing is because truly, you know, it’s been a while. And so your system could use that next refresh. And the biggest best ever reason is because, the Intuition Week community as well as like this energy I keep talking about, which I’m sure you can feel and sense just from me talking about, it is the most awesome outstanding like crazy, so-so good energy. So like why not?

It’s only $11. And again, if you get the deal now it’s only $5.55 for an entire week. Five days live training, energy healings, practices, homework. You get a workbook, again – you get a tracker, the community, you get it all access replay page. If you’re not on Facebook and you’re like, uh – can I still get the most of it? Yes, you can.

The replay is up very quickly after I’ve done the video. So it doesn’t matter if you’re in the right time zone or the wrong time zone or whatever you think the replay, the all-access replay page is available all week.

Obviously, we have all kinds of bonuses and surprise giveaways and specials. We’re going to do text messaging alerts and special keywords, and you’re also going to get a discount off of my Angels in Your Biz Oracle Card Deck. So you get a lot for a very little investment.

You know, one of the things that I love to do is unite people together as well. And so I’ve also seen so many relationships founded just going through Intuition Week together where people like, wow, you’re like this, so am I.

And Intuition Week community is like nothing you’ve ever been a part of. And if you’re like me, I’m usually like the only woo-woo spiritual weirdo in the group. I’m like the resident psychic. And in this group, it’s not the case, everybody – from all walks of life coaches, healers, leaders and even people who are like, I am not that yet, but I would like to get into that. And so this is an amazing networking community. And so, you know, getting to meet like-minded people maybe collaborate, maybe do podcasts together. Maybe just share the space together and keep each other accountable. It’s really, really cool.

Tara Holliman said, “I really needed that. My energy was so off before the healing. Thank you so much. I really needed that.”

Alma Solana Burrell said, “You are amazing. I’m so grateful for your work and your teachings.”

And Delma Manrique says that “It was beautiful. Wow, I felt a lot of energy. I went from feeling like a 4 all the way up to a 9”.

So these are just some of the many testimonials that I receive from doing Intuition Week. Usually, like my team can’t keep track and keep up with the amount and the volume of praise and testimonials and people making money and making new connections and just like miraculous things happening all week long.

So I would love for you to join again. It’s half off until April 23rd, but even if you miss it, it’s only $11 to join.

So I want to give you a quick history of where Intuition Week came from, which was I channeled it. I’m sure you probably guessed it, but I channeled a number of years ago. I’ve done Intuition Weeks, five times.

Every single time I’ve done it, it just gets better. The first time I did it, it was seven days, then it was five days. We started to shift it into just three days because what I found was that, you know, like I said, it’s like taking a drink out of the water hose.

And if people are getting energy healing with me seven days in a row, usually it’s like a lot of energy and that’s great. And there’s also that integration period that needs to happen.

And so what we did is said, you know what, I think the more gentle kind our way to do this is a Monday, Wednesday, Friday schedule, and that has been the best ever. We’ve seen people who are able to get the healing Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and really integrate on Tuesday and Thursday and over the weekend and obviously the week after it’s over.

The other cool thing is that Intuition Week opens up the container for my Mastery & Ascension Membership. And Master & Ascension is literally the membership where I do live channeled energy healing. That’s the only sacred community online that you are able to receive master-level energy healing. And so Intuition Week is kind of like a taste of what it’s like to be a Mastery & Ascension member. So in Mastery & Ascension, I go live once a month. Plus you have actually twice a month. I take that back. I go like once a month to channel a message on the first of every month. And then on the 15th of every single month, you’re going to get card readings for the whole group.

However, in addition to that, you have over 200 energy healings, mini- master classes and things like spirit guides and angels and crystals and so many astral travel. Plus there’s replays from the past Intuition Week. So, you know, after Intuition Week is over. We put that into our membership portal so that they can have it on replay, plus some really incredible offers and opportunities. You get half off from different things that I do throughout the year as an M&A member. And you also get premier access to the folks who are trained to do what I do in the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training.

So there’s a ton of benefits, there’s a ton of energy healings, and there’s also access to simple things like the Reboot Meditation series, which is an 8 to 12-minute meditation that literally clears your whole system that you don’t have to stop doing what you’re doing to listen to it. There’s a ton of awesome benefits in M&A.

But I will say this Intuition Week, if you enjoy that, if you enjoyed me, if you enjoyed the energy clearings, if you enjoy the community, you’re absolutely going to love it inside of M&A.

So also because we’re opening the doors during Intuition Week, we’re going to have all kinds of really cool specials. So if you were a past member and you want to come back or you are a member and you want to upgrade, we’re going to have some really cool things offered that we’ve never offered before, some cool upgrades and just like really cool surprise bonuses and just prizes things along the way. So we’re gonna have a lot of fun.

So it is really my favorite thing to do because I get to just be me to share my gifts at a very, very low investment that is really open to basically anybody. You know, if you can pay 5 to $11, you can participate and get these master-level energy healings delivered to you every single day within the context of Intuition Week.

So I hope you enjoyed this week’s episode. I really hope I get to see you inside of Intuition Week May 15th through 19th. Limited time only. It is awesome. We haven’t done it for a year and a half. We’re bringing it back. It’s going to be better than ever, I know it.

So anyway, if you have any questions, let me know. Share it with a friend, is how you get in. All right, I’ll see you guys on the next episode and I hope to see you inside of Intuition week. Lots of love. Bye for now.

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About Emily

Emily Aarons is a highly sought-after intuitive healer and business coach for coaches, healers, and leaders. She’s best known for clearing the energy to guide her clients out of survival mode and unlocking alignment, abundance, and exponential growth in their business. With over two decades of experience, Emily has honed her healing skills to create the first and only energy-based certification with a profit guarantee; the Integrated Energy Alignment training.

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What’s Blocking Your Sales? with Jeannie Spiro

What’s Blocking Your Sales? with Jeannie Spiro

What’s Blocking Your Sales? with Jeannie Spiro

This week you get a “two-fer”! Jeannie Spiro and I teamed up to bring you this dynamic conversation about selling.

I know the word “selling” can become triggering to entrepreneurs who have been struggling with this – which is why this conversation is so important that it needed two parts!

In Part 1, which you can find on Jeannie’s podcast here, we explored the energetics behind your offers and what can block them.

In this episode, we take the emotion out of your sales process and look at it more strategically so you can feel more confident in finding a way to sell that feels good for you. There’s no “one-size-fits-all” here!

This podcast is about being aligned in every aspect of your business, and I hope you listen to parts one and two so you can implement these tips right away.

Join me May 15-19 for my most popular event, Intuition Week!

Stop Second-Guessing Yourself and START Growing Your Business!

And until April 23rd, get Intuition Week for 50% off at just $5.55!

Highlights you won’t want to miss:
  • Jeannie’s journey with NOT knowing what to do with her life and how she was able to build a fulfilling career anyway.
  • Selling isn’t one-size-fits-all!
  • How to shift when circumstances force change (think 2020!)
  • How to find what works for you, and why you should.
  • Creative ways to generate more leads for your business.
  • It can be more simple to sell your product or service

Emily: Hey friends. Welcome back to the Aligned & Unstoppable Podcast. I am joined by a very special guest, Jeannie Spiro. And if you don’t know, Jeannie and I are doing a two-part series.So, the first part about the energetics and your business was recorded on her podcast. And the second part, which is what you are here for right now, is here on mine. So, we’re going to be talking about sales, someone asking for the sale or not getting all the pieces, so we get those sales to come in.

And on her podcast, we got to talk about like energetically what’s going on, why are you blog, what’s going on with you? So, I definitely recommend you go check it out. We will have all the links right in the show notes for you and then, welcome Jeannie! Jeannie is a business coach. She is a speaker and she is my new friend, so please give her a warm welcome. And Jeannie, the name of your podcast as well, so they can come get it.

Jeannie: Absolutely. It’s a Midlife CEO Podcast, so thanks for having me.

Emily: You’re welcome. So, let’s start like, how did you become a business coach? And I know we got to chat a little before the recording of like the history in health insurance. Gosh, that was serious. Wow! You’ve gone in so many different directions, but I’m going to pass over the mic to you to give us your background.

Jeannie: Absolutely. Well, once again, thanks for having me here. And I’m so excited. And to talk about that energetics and business and sales and launching and then to go a little further here, it’s just so fun. We’re having some fun here.

But I want to say that really, I have to go back in time. I will go back, I had no idea what I want to do with my life, absolutely no idea whatsoever. And I ended up going to the University of San Francisco right after college. And when I got there, I thought, well, I still don’t know what I want to do, but here I am. And I remember for the first two years, I loved speech communication. I love studying people’s speech. I loved interpersonal skills, and I loved just kind of watching people’s energy in the sense of like when they get on stage and how they would perform. And also just like listening to communication and all of that. But I was extremely shy and I wasn’t really I didn’t know what I wanted to do with my life, and I didn’t know what skills I really had. But it was a really good observer of people.

And at some point during that process, I started to think, Well, I remember I had a speech impediment when I was young, and so maybe I should become a speech therapist. So I got it in my head, follow my intuition right back to study that over at the University of Rhode Island. And I got there and I realized I was not a good student in science. And I didn’t really like speech therapy. What I still loved was communication. I still loved like I loved trying to figure out like how to get better at it and all of that. So anyway, my first class in college was a business communications class. Like when I was really like, really starting to see that maybe I could do something with this. And I thought business, this would be really interesting, but I didn’t even know what I would do. And I didn’t get marketing. I hadn’t didn’t have anything other than speech communication.

So I took my first job, which was as a tour guide, and I got good at speaking. And then I took my actual first official job, which was working for a health insurance company. And I was like, I don’t like this, but I’m doing it because I have to make money. And the long and short of it was for a long time I didn’t know what I wanted to do. I just knew that I was pretty good at speaking and I was pretty good at reading people. And I didn’t mind getting on stage. I didn’t mind sharing a message. I didn’t mind being uncomfortable in front of other people and eventually learned how to sell. And I learned how to sell one on one and one-too-many and all of that. And so I started building on my business skills throughout my career, which I fell into. And I didn’t even really want to be in because, again, I didn’t know what I wanted to be when I grew up and I just did it. And I ended up going to work for an entrepreneur who ran a small company. And it was my first taste of entrepreneurship, like really, truly like running a small business. And I thought, Huh, wonder if I could do this for myself. And so in about, so about 2010, I started my first business and it was coaching.

And I just really thought, you know what? What if I could take all these skills like the speaking, the sales skills, what I was learning with working with small businesses, and all the back-end stuff that I knew about some of the product development work that I was doing and some of the jobs and training and negotiating, I was like, I could teach other women what I know. So I naively started an online business in 2010 alongside the job. And it grew and grew and grew. And the thing that I figured was easiest for me was selling like I didn’t have any problem. Everybody kept complaining, like, I don’t know why I can’t get clients. And I’m like, I don’t know why I can, but I could. And so it blossomed and blossomed until finally in 2013, I was there’s a long story to it. But ultimately I ended up making the leap. And then the first year I was out on my own, I truly did not know how to run my business without having a job, so I had to figure out how to make the business succeed. And it took me about a year, year, a little over a year. And once I figured out what to do, I never looked back. So that’s a long story of it.

But I sort of like to think of myself as this example of a woman who was like, I figured it out at midlife. I didn’t know what I wanted to do most of my life, but I started following these things that I was good at and piecing it all together and said, How can I blend it together in a business doing something that I love and get to do it? What I think is this really rich chapter of my life. So that’s why I have the Midlife CEO.

Emily: I love that story. And you know, you also share with me that you had been doing speaking events as your sort of vehicle to sign other programs. And then when everything sort of shut down during the pandemic, you had to make a serious shift. So I think and I was saying on your podcast that, you know, a lot of people would take that and say, well, I guess I can’t do this business anymore. But you didn’t. You took that, you were inspired by that. I’m sure you had to do a lot of introspection and in our work to really innovate. What else can I do with this?

And I know from your story is that you realize that it can’t just be this one thing. It can’t just be this one funnel that brings people in this one way. We have to create other opportunities that maybe we can still have this thing, but there can be other things that are going on as well. So how did that decision come about for you when you had been speaking on stages and that was your jam for so long?

Jeannie: It was. And there were a few other things that I would also say I did sell in other ways. Obviously through sales conversations or discovery calls, I was not nearly as effective at selling by email. In fact, the mutual friend that we have, Sage Polaris. I had hired her and I said, can you please help me with enrolling more people from my mailing list to come to my live event? Because this is an area that I have not really done as well with.

But you have to kind of remember my experience was, I was always good at selling 1 to 1. I had to sell and have long-term relationships with people and eventually sell them. When I was working in health insurance. I could sell from the stage, I could do all of those things. But one area that I wasn’t really good at was selling by email or copy. And so I loved using speaking mean events as one strategy to fill my programs and it became my thing. It was good, it was easy. I loved doing it. I enjoyed it. It was an experience and it was like the one thing I relied on.

And so fortunately I had the experience before the pandemic of working with Sage, and she helped me find my voice and helped me figure out how to learn how to sell through email. And I was doing it like by event that year I sold spots into my program, which was like, oh my God, one of my program into my event. And I was like, this is working. Like, wow, I can do this too. And then we had the pandemic. I couldn’t have live events. I could still have conversations with people, and I still had a really healthy email list. And it was like, all right, what am I going to do now? And that’s where I leaned into that. I also leaned into some of the other strategies that I’d already been using, which were more simple sales strategies, like without even using sales pages. And I just thought, all right, I’m going to use all these different other methods to figure out a combination of sales approaches that I can use in my business without events. And that’s what 2020 taught me, that I didn’t have to have an event to be able to keep enrolling people into my coaching programs and masterminds.

Emily: Yeah, and I want to just encourage people to hear what you’re also saying, which is, hey, I wasn’t great at selling in this one way, so I hired somebody to help me to get better at the thing versus saying, Oh, well, I’m terrible at social media, I’m terrible at email marketing and then therefore I can’t use it, period, done.

You went and found a solution. And also you’re seeing that there is so many different ways that you can get. Innovative and creative and have a little more fun with it. It doesn’t have to just be this one way and you’re using these new skill sets to develop into other things. So, you know, I think that we have to use as an entrepreneur. We have to have that skill to be able to go, okay, well, I’m not good at this, but I can do that. How can I strengthen this or hire someone to help me with this? So to fill that little area for me, it’s really smart.

Jeannie: Thank you. And I really realized at that point for myself was I, I wanted to develop an area not only for… you know, for the success of myself. It was like, how can I learn something else in my business I don’t already know how to deal?

Maybe I could get good at writing copy. Maybe I could use this strategy to be able to enroll people into my coaching programs with one or two emails as opposed to a massive launch. And so became this whole idea of what’s possible as opposed to, Oh, I can’t do that, or I only did that. I think the thing that we can do as entrepreneurs and you said this too, is how can we go stretch a little bit beyond what where our comfort zone is and be innovative and do some things that might be a little bit out of our comfort zone so that we can achieve what we want. It’s not being afraid to try.

Emily: Yeah, I agree. So you are obviously a master at sales and you love sales and you know, whether it is one on one, whether it’s a connection call, whether it’s a live event, whether it’s an email, you got a pretty good handle for things. So people come to you, for help, for advice when things are not looking so great for them.

So I know, you know, my audience, they’re all, you know, coaches and healers and leaders and female entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs who might get stuck with sales. And, you know, there is definitely areas where we’ve had great podcast episodes on different techniques or talking about maybe the sale problem isn’t the sale problem, but it’s something else. So what do you see the most commonly coming up to you like with your client tell? What is the number one thing that people come to you for when they get stuck and they’re not making the sales that they desire?

Jeannie: Oh, okay. So a few things happen, so I’m going to talk about it from the person who’s got something that they’re selling already or has sold.

Usually what happens is they’ve sold it a couple of times. So let’s just take that example, someone who’s got something that they’ve created and they’re passionate about and they’re selling it. And maybe one or two sales have come in and they’re like, Great, I’ve validated this offer. And I’m like, Yes, you have. The problem oftentimes as they come to me and they’ll say, I don’t know how to bring more people into this. I don’t know what strategies to use to bring more people into this program. And I’m stuck. And what’s the best approach to take that’s going to work for me?

And there’s a variety of choices. And so what happens oftentimes is they’ll try like all these different things, and then they get frustrated because they’ll say, Oh, I didn’t get more or this didn’t work, or I still don’t feel like I like this approach. And so some people will also come to me and say, well, I’ve tried to sell by selling from the stage and I don’t want to have another event. So what’s an alternative to keep enrolling more people into a program that I have or a program that I have that I only have a few people in and I’d like to have more. What are my alternatives?

I don’t want to do this anymore or this didn’t feel like it worked. And I’m going to say I’m using the word feel. It didn’t necessarily feel good to me or I didn’t enjoy it. So I really like to work with my clients in that situation to find what works for them that they like. That’s going to be enjoyable for them to do. That’s not going to be a grind because truthfully, we can do things that like I can tell you right now, Emily, go out and have a live event and you’ll be like, there’s absolutely no way I ever want to do that. And I’ve said, that’s the only way of you doing it. And you’re like, I don’t want to do it. You’d say you do it, but regrettingly, right? But your heart’s not in it.

But if I said to you, go ahead and launch your certification program, get that out there and do it through a series of, you know, masterclasses or webinars or something like that I can do. And then I’m like, great. Like it’s just like energetically what can you connect with? So a lot of times it’s people will come to me, they’re like, I don’t know what the right strategy is. It’s going to work for me. Other people will come to me and they’ll say, I’ve tried everything and this is still not. Working and I don’t know what’s going on. And oftentimes I find is it’s just unpacking all the information because a lot of people who are online already, it’s not like we just roll out of bed today and we’re like, well, we’re going to have we’re going to launch this.

We’ve been learning for a little while and we’re overwhelmed with strategy. And so then what I’m doing is helping them create the right strategy that’s going to work for them and then a process to get to what’s going to help them live, launch it, and then selling it if they want to, on-demand or not on demand. But, you know, through more of an evergreen process. Yeah, but it’s it’s really finding what works for them is sort of the first part of all of this.

Emily: Yeah. And it really is individual because some people you know, are really great storytellers and email they love to write in their emails are well received versus some people maybe are prefer to be on the stage or prefer to have an event or maybe kind of a webinar or something else that you may have to go with, what their strengths are, what they’re more naturally inclined. What would you say to somebody who’s not had any experience with any of those things ever before in their whole life? And they’re like, What do I do? How do I tell my thing?

Jeannie: Yeah. So the first thing that I always want to think about is I like people to learn how to sell 1 to 1 first.

Emily: Yes, I will do that. I’m glad you say that, too.

Jeannie: Yes

Emily: Before you can open up to like a gazillion people, I feel…

Jeannie: Right! So if you can’t sell 1 to 1, you can’t sell one too many. And so oftentimes what happens is if someone is not selling anything at all, I will challenge them to talk to as many people as they possibly can and tell people it’s more like I have this offer. And who do you know who might need this. And be in conversation and practice conversation for about a week and they’ll resist it, but then they’ll come back to me like I’m just getting good at talking about it. I’m like, that’s exactly what I want you to do first because you probably don’t have the language around your offer, right?

And you’re not expressing the benefits, you’re not expressing the outcome, you’re not expressing what truly can happen, the transformation that can happen from this, the more you talk about it. The better you get at expressing it. And then you also want to do it on video. And that’s what I’ll tell people. Get on Zoom and watch people and you can see if people are connecting. Like if I said to you today, Emily,  I want you to buy a brand new moped and it is red and it is going to go fast. You’d be like what are you…What? Like what? Why do I need a moped? It’s like. But I feel like I’m using it as a kind of silly example.

But that’s sometimes what happens. It’s like how our brains absorb it, and we’re like, I don’t know what you’re saying. I don’t know what you’re. What is this that you’re offering? It sounds like it could be working. But what happens is oftentimes in sales, I see it like this is it’s almost like you’re speaking two different languages and the person can’t even understand what you’re saying. So when you’re having a hard time selling something at all, I always go back to that simple exercise is like, is this clear? Is what you’re offering makes sense to somebody else? And then the other simple thing is would you buy your own offer? Like if you looked at your copy and you looked what this is? And I’m like, truly, would you put money down on this and take yourself out of like that, wanting it to happen and say, does this convince you to buy that?

Emily: Yes.

Jeannie: So what I often will do is I end up kind of funny in the way I do this. But when people come to me and they say, I can’t sell this offer, I imagine that I’m a buyer immediately. I’m imagining that whatever it is they’re selling to me. And I look at it like, would I buy this? And I will tell them I will not buy this or I will buy this and here’s why, or here’s what you need to tell me in order for me to buy this.

So immediately, when I’m working with clients, will imagine that whatever they have to sell is something that I might want, but they can’t. They’re not convincing me that I need it and I need to work with them on convincing me or explaining to me why they should.

Emily: Yeah

Jeannie: It’s usually not the features, although there can be some massaging around it. So there’s a few things though.

Emily: Yeah. And it’s so funny. So would you buy is a great thing to ask and I think people do get caught up in you know their thing that they created they know the most about. But sometimes the simplest thing is like, well, is it like a live thing or is it like a recorded thing, is it a course, is it a book? Like we actually as a consumer have no idea what the heck you’re explaining and talking about. You and your own mind have this whole vision, but like you haven’t actually articulated what the thing is that you are selling.

Jeannie: Yes

Emily: And, you know, I think that can get really complicated because we do live in a time where a course could be a place that you go to a class in a classroom. It could also be an online course that is taught live, that you have to take quizzes. It could also be something that you just sign up for you can do at your own leisure. So like, which one is it? How, how do I digest that? And, sometimes I can’t articulate that clearly enough. And I think this goes back to like getting people to help you with the things that you’re not very good at.

I always like to create whatever the sales page or the offer is and flush it out with my team. And then after I flush it out my team, we’ve kind of got the wheels in motion. I’ll reach out to some of my friends and say, could you just take a look at this? And like, where do I have holes and gaps and questions? Do you have what comes up for you?

And even to go back to the conversation about number one, like just talk to people there, I think there’s this like, I don’t know where the rumor started, but like people who sell well, like people assume that they just like, open their mouth and then people just throw money at them. And I always go through a launch process, which is I’d teach people and to say, like, what conversations did you have? Who did you talk to? What was the result of that conversation? And I can’t tell you how many conversations I have whenever there is an enrollment are open period. Sometimes what people think a sales conversation is, is “Hey, Jeannie, I have a thing. Do you want to buy it? Okay, No, alright, bye.” And they didn’t want to buy it.

Jeannie: I know, I know.

Emily: It’s not a sales conversation the way that I would have.

Jeannie: Or they think it’s like a consultation conversation/coaching session or whatever it might be. And it’s like, no, no, no, no, wait a minute. You just that’s not the point of this thing. It’s not like strategy in here or coaching in here.

Emily: Right.

Jeannie: I do want to say something else that I do that I think is another practice that I love even before using a sales page. Because I also work the same way. Like once I get it out of my head and then I see it and I see the copy and it’s there, like I think we’re both seasoned enough that we can go and look at and be like, Oh, I see what’s missing, or we know who to ask to say what’s missing that I haven’t communicated.

But oftentimes what I’ll do is I have my clients put together a very small PowerPoint presentation and I’ll ask them if they’re asking like, Do we have the basic points in this very small PowerPoint presentation that you could pitch this offer to someone in a PowerPoint. And if I gave you six slides and you put your information on these six slides and you had to sell through this process, could you do it? And everyone’s like, Oh my gosh, no, I couldn’t possibly do that. I’m like, Yeah, you can. You basically need to have one slide that’s going to tell what this program is, who this is for, what this is about, right? And so I walk them through this really simple process. And I and what I end up doing is I review they pitch to me, you know, loom video, and then I review it and I say, this is what you’re missing. This is what you’re missing. This is how to refine it. And so I’ll just take whatever offer it is and I simplify it, and I just work them through this process to see how they can improve selling it to me and then going out to someone that they know and then selling it to them.

And usually we have people who are interested in what we’ve got to offer already and then presenting it to them without a big song and dance and all of that. But like, hey, I’ve created something, would you be willing to watch this? And it’s really, really effective. My clients who do this, who are struggling to get to struggling to sell or sell something, it’s a little bit different than someone who’s got like a sales strategy problem, right? It’s like, how do I get the thing selling? I kind of go back to basics with it.

Emily: Yeah. And you mentioned earlier that you sometimes have people who come to you and you say, is this a like a people problem like, you have more leads coming in or is this a strategy problem? And that’s a really interesting way to discern what is the problem here. So do you find that those are kind of like the two branches that you see the most?

Jeannie: Yeah, Oftentimes. Oftentimes. So I was speaking with a client today and she has this amazing program. And I know that it’s validated because she’s got a lot of people who bought it. And so I’ll ask the simple question like, have you had any sales conversations or discovery calls? She’s like, I’ve only had a few. I’m like, okay. And so have you added anybody to your mailing list lately, or have you been out speaking lately? Or have you connected with more people who know about your work?

No. And I’m like, okay, so the same people are seeing the same offer over and over and over again. You need… You don’t have enough leads, so it’s time to expand who knows about this offer? You’ve got to bring more people into it.

Now you can spend all the time you want in trying to convince the same people on your mailing list what you’re doing. But if you’re not bringing more people onto your list and I think this is just basic math, if you’re not doing it, you’re not you don’t have new people knowing about it. So I, I can tell oftentimes when there’s a problem with someone sort of, but this often happens when someone changes their program and switches the price or their features in it, they sometimes run into a sales program on something that they’ve or sales problem and something that had been selling before, because sometimes they get in their head or right, like they’re like, Oh no, I can’t sell this anymore. It’s now too expensive.

And I’m like, Yes, you can. Let’s get we got to work through it. It’s an amazing offer. You’ve changed it to optimize it. Now let’s move you back into conversation around it. You might not have as many yeses, but we change in some purpose. And so sometimes I have to go back to look at what’s shifted in your sales process or in the way you’re pitching or making your offer. I get really analytical about the whole thing.

Emily: I really like that.

Well, and this is something that comes up a lot in my IEA Certification, the Integrated Energy Alignment Certification, because, you know, we are bringing in people into the program who are either coaches or healers or they aspire to have a new career doing this work, and we’re training them from the energetics to the business side of it.

And part of the tagline is that we have a profit guarantee, and the reason why is because, we are encouraging them to start with free sessions and then we literally require them to begin charging money at a certain point in the program. And then a third time or a second time, I should say, then they have to increase their prices. And the reason we do that by design, because out there in the real world, in your business, you likely should be increasing your prices from time to time. And when you increase your prices, there’s a huge energetic opening that comes in as well.

And so for folks like me who do energy work, what you see happening is that you’re serving at a certain level and maybe, let’s say it’s energetic work that you’re doing because that’s what I do. And when you feel that nudge to increase your prices, let’s say you listen to it because you’re smart and you listen to that nudge and you increase your prices and then you go, Oh, I’m a little bit worried. I don’t know. But then you sell it. What instantly happens in that session is you’re like, Oh my gosh, how did I become so open? I’m picking up on ten times more energy. The energy is moving.

My clients are getting better results through the work that I’m giving them in a short amount of time. They’re coming back more. They’re sending more referrals like, Whoa, I should have probably increased my prices sooner.

Jeannie: That’s right.

Emily: That’s what happens at the end of it. But at the beginning of it, when you go from I’m doing a free thing to now I’m doing a paid thing, we always see resistance in our students and it’s just that you’re selling the same thing on this side and on this side, but on this side. Now all of a sudden, there’s an energetic exchange of money.

Jeannie: Exactly. Yeah.

Emily: And I love it. I get so lit up about these conversations because when you’re doing transformational work, you’re doing something that can be esoteric and in tangible. And so from the very beginning, with their practice sessions and throughout, you’re really getting into the nitty-gritty of what was it like before and after your session? What would that transformation you have now, 30 people you’ve worked on? What are the common threads? Why are they all coming to you?

And then we’ve had students who said like, like she’s a forensic scientist, she’s not from the healing field at all. And she started to notice people who came to her were stuck in perfectionism and they were needing to come back into themselves and start to be kinder and gentler to themselves. And through her work, she was able to help them to address their perfectionism and to be more gentle and kind with themselves. And so it’s like, that’s the transformation. You need to know who it is and what the problem is and what’s in it for them. Just tell me that’s all they want to know at the end of the day. Like, what am I going to get out of it?

Jeannie: It is exactly what they want. And you know what I think what you’re saying is so true. And also what I noticed with a lot of people is that they get so nervous and so attached to this. What are people going to say? And they’re going to say no.

And what happens is, is when you don’t have a lot of leads coming in and you’re you’re at a stage in your business where you’re trying to grow, all your eggs are in these baskets and it becomes so like you’re just like managing these eggs, making sure that they don’t break right, because you’re like, Am I going to have more eggs? Is the chicken I’m going to lay more eggs.

And so, like what I always like to look at it like is like, yes, you need to be looking at this as a it’s a multiple pronged process. It’s like you’re creating something. It’s amazing, which is one of the things I help my clients refine or create. Right?

And then you’re going to need to sell it. So you’re going to pick your sales strategy and then you’re going to need to bring more and more people in. So it’s not that you’re going to have only a few eggs in your basket, and if they all crack or you eat all of your eggs, then you’re not going to have more. But that’s what I know happens a lot, is like you’re afraid you’re not going to have more opportunities to and you do. And when you know that what you offer is something that’s transformational, that makes a big difference, that really can support other people, it’s kind of like, well, let me move into this. How can I get more people to know about my work? How can I get more people to be invited to be in this?

And I actually look at it, as it’s an opportunity to work with each other, right? It’s an invitation. And I, I don’t sit here like, ever forcing anyone to ever work with me. I’m like, this is an opportunity for us both to work together and have an experience together. And the experience that many of my clients get is an empowered experience on the other side, empowered to learn how to attract clients or learn how to sell their programs, create something incredible and to make money.

And so I know that I’m in a space when I go into a conversation or when I sell from the stage or whatever it is. I know I go into this ownership space and this empowered space of I’ve really gotten good at masterful what I’m doing. And I feel really confident that what I have I can transfer to somebody else. And yes, money is going to transfer in the process, but I get to give that person that opportunity to be able to be, you know, to step into another skill level. So that’s how I look at it now.

In the beginning, I certainly didn’t, but that’s what I want my clients to look at is like, What is it that you’re doing that you can move into empowering somebody else in what you know or what you do or support them within that transformation? Instead of it being, well, I do this and they’re going to give me money. It’s like, well, energetically, what are you going to be doing here? You’re exchanging something here.

Emily: Go slowly. And I mean, like I said, like more, more energy does come through when you are raising your rates.

And the other thing that you mentioned is that people kind of look at, well, what if people don’t buy? What if people don’t buy? What if they can’t afford it? And I also like to look the other side of that coin. And I know for myself, I don’t know how you feel about this, but if there are certain things that I would like to have, let’s say it’s a business coach. Well, if you are $20 for two months of coaching support, I’m going to presume that you’re terrible if it’s $20 for two months of support. That’s a very low amount of money.

Jeannie: What does that saying?

Emily: It’s saying, you’re probably not going to be that good. And I look at it, too, like we have these chain massage places that you can have a subscription membership for like $39 a month. Well, I know what I’m getting. I’m getting a brand new student who’s out of, you know, just out of school who’s not really so good with what they’re doing. So they’re kind of getting the hang of it, but I am getting a backrub, so I’ve got that going for me.

However, at this point, I am only interested in working with people who are highly skilled, highly intuitive, can hold an energetic space, can help to transmute some of the energy and the stress. They might also be like experts in various modalities, and I am more than happy to pay a premium to receive the best session. And so what we’re discounting when we’re only looking at how many people can afford us is we’re discounting people who are saying, I want to pay a premium for a VIP experience. I’m wanting to pay a premium so that I can get my best results faster. I want to work with you one on one so that I can get the most and get off into that next transformation. I don’t want to be part of a group and pay less. I want number one the most. So I think we oftentimes don’t think of who is out there in that kind of regard as well.

Jeannie: We don’t. And another part of this I don’t want to forget is that we. Oh, now I am forgetting it.

But, what I really think is important is that sometimes what I notice for myself is when I am hiring someone, I am hiring an expert in something that they’re doing, and it’s because I can’t figure it out. So just like what you were saying and what I’ve come to realize is that I’m not a generalist in business coaching. I’m actually a specialist in what I’ve mastered and what I really know.

And so I’m really good at saying I am not your social media business coach, I am not your SEO business coach. I use relationship marketing and speaking strategies for lead generation. I’m like, If there’s anything that you want to do outside of that, I’m going to tell you, you know, go and do it. But when it comes to speaking, I know how to do it. When it comes to selling, I know what to do and how to do it.

I’m not a copywriter and I don’t write. So I’m really good at owning what I do. I’m really good at saying I’ve helped clients get to millions of dollars in their business, and I’ve helped clients make their first $10,000 per month and I’ve done everything in between and I can own that. And that is my truth. I can’t say I’ve taken anybody $2 billion and I would never would say that. And that’s not my zone of genius. Right?

And I think that that’s another thing is like own your genius on what you’re good at. And a lot of us can like say we’re really good at many different things, but when we narrow it down, it’s even better. It’s sweeter, because then, yes, we can say, I can claim that this is what I’m really great at. And that’s what I want people to really own it too, because then you get confidence in being able to sell what you’re doing and then you design programs that are like around your genius and you can be confident in that too.

Emily: Yeah, And I think, tracing back to the conversation you said about having lots of conversations with people. In those conversations that you have with people, they’re going to hear your message and your expertise and your genius in a certain way to them. It’s really nice to hear.

This is one of the first ways I learn how to remarket and rebrand myself from just doing hands-on therapy to opening up an online business and be able to do instead of 1 to 1 going to one for many and opening up that coaching opportunity is that I asked people, you know, if how they would describe my work to a friend and hearing other people describe your work sometimes is like they’re giving you the keywords like, Oh, I like that word. And when I first started, I was like, Oh, I’m giving people clarity. Oh, I’m a clarity coach? I think that’s something cool, right? Like and you’re just hearing the words coming back to you. Oh, you clear the blocks. Oh, you give me that next level. Okay?

Like you’re hearing the words coming back at you, which can also fuel how you speak of yourself. Because, you know, oftentimes, especially people who do esoteric things, Gary, I compare it to being like a mechanic and they’re like, I use tarot cards and I use Reiki and I used EFT and you’re like… They don’t speak that language, so stop talking about the tools you use, please, and think about it like a mechanic.

When we take our broken car into the service shop, you don’t go through the garage with them and go, why are you using that diagnostic tool? And what wrench, what size wrench do you think that’s the wrench that you should use? And then like, how long do you think it’s going to take? How many more miles can I like? No. You go sit in the waiting room with a good book and you just wait until it’s done and they go here your car is better now. And so that’s when you have to look at of like, are you trying to give them every single one of your stupid diagnostic tools that they don’t understand because they weren’t trained.

Jeannie: No

Emily: Or can you just say, like, here I can provide this resolve for you, Just take a step.

Jeannie: This actually brings up something kind of funny because for a long time, you know, I had a business. Obviously, you did, too. You were working in the offline world, right. And then bridging to the online world. And so people it’s kind of like, I don’t know, like in Harry Potter world, I think of like the muddled muggles. And so it’s like people didn’t understand when I moved in to have an online business like, what are you doing? And still to this day, people don’t get it.

And so I really narrowed it down after such a long time of like trying to hear my family members try to describe what I do. And I’m like, I help people make money, I help women make money, and they’re like, Wait, what? Online? Like, that’s all that’s what you do. And I’m like, Yes, that’s right. But that’s really ultimately, that’s what I’m doing. And for the longest time, I kept trying to say, Well, I teach this or I do this or I’m doing this. And they were like, I don’t get. Right. But we get so sucked into we have to have this beautiful copy, incredible language. And at the end of the day, I just narrowed it down like, I want to make sure that absolutely anybody understands the end of the day, really empowering women to make more money in their business.

And that’s so I can tell my husband, you can tell everybody. And it’s really kind of funny because now I actually my best friend said this to me recently. She’s like, my husband didn’t even know how to express what I was doing for the longest time. And I said, mine didn’t either. And now I just tell him, just tell everybody that I help people make money. And he’s like and I listened to him say it.

And, you know, that’s one of the things it’s like we overcomplicate. How we are explaining our offers. We overcomplicate saying who we are. We’re trying to be all fancy. And it’s like this copy language. Sometimes it’s almost like you can’t even hear it because. Or it sounds like everybody else.

Emily: Yeah.

Jeannie: And it really, at the end of the day, we want the results, we want the transformation, and we want an expert to help us through that.

Emily: So yeah. Exactly. So this is this has been a really fun conversation. Thank you for having it. I really love a good opportunity to talk about sales and I’m sure it would be super fun to have some case studies that we can like play with if people have a problem and go, okay, where are you blocked in your energy and what’s going on with you getting like we’re we can like tag team for fun one day. We could do like maybe like some sort of like a live together or something.

Jeannie: Yeah. An Instagram live sometime, they be awesome.

Emily: That’ll be really cool. Maybe we’ll do that when this episode comes out, right? So you can tell people how they can connect with you, work with you, and otherwise just love on you somewhere after this episode.

Jeannie: Thank you. Thank you. Well, a couple of ways.

So the first is that I invite everybody to go on over if they’re looking to generate more leads in their business. I love this one strategy, which is using speaking as a strategy online and offline to generate more leads in your business, because I think one too many marketing is great. So I have something called the ultimate Speaking Lead Generation Starter Guide and how you can start attracting leads in that way. It’s on my website, and you can learn more about what I do in my business at

I work with people in a couple of different ways. I help them design signature talks that allow them to convert more clients into their programs and services. And I have a program called Revenue Makers Mastermind to help women ultimately make more money in their businesses. And then I also work with individual clients and what I call like a Sales Optimizer Program. And I look at how we can optimize or sell and attach a sales strategy to help them sell what it is that they’re working to sell in their business. And that’s all over at

Emily: Great. Thank you so much.

Jeannie: Online, You might see me dabbling on Instagram.

Emily: All right. We’ve can connect with you there on your website site. Grab that guide and hey, reach out and say hello on Instagram. I always like to encourage my listeners, you guys know, take a screenshot, share your Instagram stories, tag me and your stories tag Jeannie. We’ll have all those links in the show notes.

Let us know what was the most like breakthrough AHA that you had from this episode? Did you learn something about what you need to start doing or maybe stop doing about your sales strategy? Do you realize this is a lead problem or is it like my offers kind of just not fleshed out enough kind of thing? I would love to hear from you always.

You know, it’s always interesting and inspiring when I see your DMS and your reviews on iTunes. Just knowing that we’ve made a positive impact in your life really makes the world of difference to me. I know me and Jeannie are avid podcast host. We love doing what we do, but you know, we do it for free. And the way that you can sort of give that reciprocity is those positive reviews. So make sure that you go over and listen to my episode on Jeannie’s podcast, say it again, Midlife?…

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Emily: Midlife CEO Podcast. Go download that episode, leave us a nice review over there and do the same over here on my podcast, Aligned & Unstoppable. Thank you so much for being here Jeannie, Thank you! Everyone who’s been listening have an awesome rest of your day and take good care.

Jeannie: Thank you.

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  • The ingredients for success for healers, coaches, and leaders.
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Emily: Listeners, warm welcome back to the podcast. I am so excited because you know what this is. It’s our anniversary. It’s my four years. How did I just do that? It’s like, you know, sometimes I have this, like out-of-body experiences where I just am such a dork, but that’s also who I am. So, thank you for accepting me.But it is our four-year anniversary of the Aligned and Unstoppable  Podcast. So let’s play confetti, noises, and loud sounds, and clapping sounds. And I wanted to do something special for our anniversary. And so I wanted to invite my dear friend and colleague Amanda Pickering, to be on the podcast with me today for a couple of reasons. One, I love and adore her and she’s magical in my business. She is a goddess, an angel. But also, I call you like a priestess, Priestess Queen, like all of the night, like all of the things she’s all of the things all wrapped into this beautiful package.

Well, since I’m talking to you, I’ll talk to you directly. Since I wanted to invite you to be on the podcast because I adore you and because your presence in my life and my business has made such a positive impact and you have truly seen me in like, the darkest times coming into the light. And I wanted to kind of share that with my listeners because I think we often see people, hey, somebody who has a podcast that has four years behind it and a business that’s $1,000,000 brand, and we make up these stories that our head that like she’s fine. I’m the only one who struggles with all of these things.

And so I really wanted to take this time on this episode to pull back the curtain and have a really honest heart-to-heart with the listeners.
And, for anybody who doesn’t know Amanda, now, you get to know her a little bit, a little bit more. So before we dive into that, I want to really go into what it is, like what are the elements, what are the ingredients that make a business successful?

And this is for you specifically, if you are a coach, a healer, or a leader and you have been struggling, maybe you’ve had a business for a while and just not as successful as you want, or you’re wanting to make a career change or you’re just like something is not clicking and you feel like you’re the problem. That might not necessarily be entirely true. So before we get into all of that, I want to first kind of spotlight you, Amanda, and let’s give the listeners a little bit of background besides you being like one of my favorite people of all time. Maybe there are some other things that they would really enjoy knowing about you too. So, kind of let’s paint the picture of, you know, your background and your experiences professionally and what got you here today and why.

Amanda: Yeah. Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me. This is very exciting and also one of my favorite people on the planet. So as you can probably hear from my accent, I’m from the U.K. And, well, I started my kind of career in charity management. I did that for about nine years, supporting homeless people into accommodation and then left behind a complete career move into life coaching and health coaching.

After having a huge transformation with my health from being sick and depressed and anxious and chronic fatigue and adrenal fatigue and thyroid problems and all this, and it went on and on and on before I was even 18, and I was able to heal myself of every single one of those things through a variety of things, but very much like supporting myself holistically. And so I really wanted to show that and other people. So I did that for a few years. And then Spirit asked me to give it all up. And it was really hard, really scary, and I had no idea what was next. But over a period of about five months, I completely surrendered and ended up in a world that I didn’t realize my whole life had been preparing me for and was part of my natural skill set, which is what I kind of cool intuitive operations, which is taking my feminine energy of light, listening to spirit and hearing and seeing things. And you very much help me like acknowledge that in myself and very much having that innate, I guess you could call it a masculine container of operations and structure and goals. And the two kinds of married beautifully and I was really blessed to work in some incredible businesses.

And then one day a friend of mine, a mutual friend of ours, suggested that you and I talk, and we did. And that turned into me helping you bring the IEA Certification, Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training to life. And I never left. It was meant to be a few months. And then we had a beautiful conversation where you asked me to come on to COO, and I guess the rest is history.

Emily: So that was really it. And thank goodness that you went through all of that, because that has given you such a broad perspective. You know, it’s one thing to just be a CEO, own a business is another thing to have walk the walk as a practitioner, as a coach had to struggle through the ups and downs and not having booking clients and in selling programs or not selling programs, and then having the experiences with other companies to see what other people are doing. And I can also say with birthing last year, the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training, you know, personally because you saw me every day. But you know, for folks who didn’t see me every day, it was something that was so 100% clear to me. Like Spirit gave me a download like X, Y, and Z is going to happen, and here’s the way it’s going to happen. And I was like, well, that’s really great and smart. Also, how do I do this? And so that’s where Amanda stepped in. It was figuring out how to orchestrate it so that these concepts and our practices and our quizzes and our coursework and our calls, like everything just worked and I also felt like giving up. You know, there were modules where I was like, I can’t – I couldn’t possibly. And I had these really negative thoughts, like, how could I possibly do this? And then I’m like, well, people pay me, so you better figure it out. And then I would snap back into it and I would deliver this like, outstanding course. And I’m like, holy crap, how did I even doubt myself?

And then I’m seeing our students like me and Amanda are seeing students week to week going from I have no idea what I’m doing here. I’m not even sure I should be here. To building their confidence week after week. Seeing clients, getting results, getting paid, increasing their rates. Like we’re seeing all this happening in front of our eyes. And both of us are, like, virtually high-fiving each other, like, Oh, my gosh. And we’re crying. They’re crying like, all these amazing things are happening.

And I mean, I’ve said it to you privately. I’ve said it to somewhat publicly as well. But I’m going to say to you on the podcast is that the Practitioner Training, the IEA Practitioner Training would not have birthed if it weren’t for you. My energy alone would not have made it happen. It just wouldn’t have. And I know that we were put together at the right time in the right configuration. It was like all the stars aligned for both of us in the way that it came through. And I’m so grateful that it did. And I also had the foresight. Then I was like, listen, I really like you, and if this works out, I’m just going to give you the heads up. I probably wouldn’t want to marry you forever. So just so you know, which is basically what happened.

Amanda: Yeah

Emily: But it was really cool to be there on that journey. And like I said, even from the shadow into the light, like birthing this program, it took that like that depth.

Amanda: It did.

Emily: It really did. And if you weren’t there, I know it wouldn’t. It wouldn’t. Wouldn’t be where it is today. We wouldn’t have now students who are graduates who are now coach and who are becoming coaches like it is evolving faster than we could have ever imagined. And so I want to kind of talk to the folks who again, they’re at that place where their coaches, their healers, their leaders, things are maybe not working the way that they could be.

And a couple of weeks ago, we had a really fun Q&A Call. Just like a lot of Q&A we hosted. And anybody, if you ever see an email blast, this is I’m doing life coaching, just like jump on it immediately. It’s so one of the women who join, her name is Alexia. She’s been in my community for a while. She had a question about, you know, what her right next step is going to be and what to do about it.

And you shared some really profound insights as far as, you know, what advice to give her. So and it was funny because I was like, I feel like Amanda needs to say something like it was like the Emily coaching call that I was like, I think I’m in. And when I get the mic over to you, I remember you saying you’re like, I wasn’t really sure what I was going to say until it came out of my mouth. And then like, you just dropped bombs and we were all like, Oh yeah, people are taking notes and even a lot it was like crying. It was like an amazing experience because it hit like, hit that nerve. It was like right to her heart.

So I want to start kind of there. Let’s pick up where we kind of left off with that and bring people into the fold. So when we were talking about the ingredients, what you feel it takes to have success in this kind of business, what have you seen has been the bigger stuff that’s been making a difference?

Amanda: Yeah, I mean, I’ve had such a privilege of kind of being on the inside of your business for a while and being on a lot of the calls with you. So I’ve seen a lot of this stuff come up. And like you say, from my previous experience of running my own businesses, it’s like a beautiful marriage. So I mean, with Alexia it was I think the question was around, like, how do I know the difference between like taking the next step out of, like blind faith and like kind of playing it safe. It was something.

Emily: Yes. Right. Yes, that’s right. Yeah.

Amanda: And I mean, if you know anything about me, I didn’t really actually probably introduce myself. I live in the UK. I have a husband, I have two dogs that my in life I live in Devon, which is in the middle of nowhere, and it’s like more houses than horses and cows and sheep than people. So if you got to say all of that, but one thing about me is like I’m a very straight shooter and I, I’m very practical, but I also live a life of faith. And so I loved this question, even though I didn’t know you were going to want me to answer it.

With so much of my life has been faith in manifestation, you know, like the house we live in now is a complete manifestation. We manifested it in the middle of COVID with like, no, you weren’t allowed to move anywhere. And everyone was telling us to settle for whatever, you know, and we would like visualize exactly what we wanted. My husband is here because of that. My dog is alive because of that. So I know of faith, but I think that’s often where we start of like we just trust. We just have faith. And that is such an essential ingredient. It’s not to make light of it, but faith without action isn’t, does nothing there. Right?

And I think that’s the part that we often miss. And I have this vision for my life. I know that I meant to do this, but like, there’s no inspired action behind it. An inspired action to me is actually like putting your face into motion. It’s saying, Well, I actually believe the thing that I’m seeing, right? So like when we manifested this house, we really wanted to take my water and everyone was telling us, you shouldn’t even be live. You can’t just take whatever you can cause.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: I forgot to say we were homeless for four months in the middle of all of this. And we had the audacity to say what we want.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: Like, take what we’re given. Right? But what we did is we actually went online and looked at houses, right? We didn’t just sit there visualizing together and talking about, like, what we want to see. We then actually went online and looked at houses. I contacted every agent and within like 50 miles of us, and we did the things we put one foot in front of the other. And low and behold, this house shows up.

Emily: Mm-hmm.

Amanda: Then we find out 70 people had applied to come to see it.

Emily: Wow.

Amanda: We’re both self-employed, so we’re like, at the bottom of the list, right? In terms of what a landlord…

Emily: Ideal.

Amanda: Right.

Emily: Right.

Amanda: But then we just took the next step where we said, okay, well, let’s go and see it. And then we applied and then like, we just went through all the stages and the house was always meant to be ours, but we had to take those steps first.

Emily: yeah

Amanda: So very much what I see like in entrepreneurial land is that we, we don’t take action. And then we wonder why things haven’t worked out. So that’s been like a huge piece for me that I have seen. And it’s this thing that I know you and I have spoken about this many times, this kind of age-old thing of like, you know, someone’s drowning at sea and they ask God to save them. And then the lifeboat shows up and it’s like, no, no, thank you. I’m good. I ask God to save me. And it’s like, we don’t always take, like, the thing that’s right in front of us because we’re expecting it in a different form.

Emily: Yeah.

Amanda: And I guess the last thing I’ll say on that is like, action is like the energetics signal to the universe that, like, we’re ready for what we are believing for. And if you don’t take action, then you’re not. You’re just there’s nothing that happens.

Emily: And if you see like to your point around, you know, I’m waiting for God to send so to save me, like if we are actively open to receiving this big manifestation, whatever it is, we should also be actively seeing everything as conspiring for us to create that thing in our lives so we really could start to say yes to things when they show up to us. You know, and I mean, back to the like manifest in the house that you’re in.

I’ve been in a similar situation and manifesting housing. My first marriage was ending. We were supposed to buy a house and we put down $12,000. We lost everything. They wouldn’t give our deposit back. I had six days to find an apartment in a very congested city, close, and I needed it to be with parking, with laundry and pet friendly and also clean, by the way. And the same thing. My people were like, just just take whatever. If you can’t take the dog, I’m like, I want like, just not take my left arm short. I’m not kidding you. So I was like, I don’t need a thousand of them. I just need one. And I think that’s the thing, is that people can overlook how simple it is. Like it’s not a million of these. It’s just the one.

And when you and Gustav got clear about what you wanted, you visualize it. Then you start to take action. They start to take the pieces to move forward. Like, okay, so maybe the odds are stacked against you. So what? What if it’s the perfect thing? What if we just look at it like it’s not going, but people get into the loop of like all the negative stories. And so let’s look at how we treat our business this way when we have, you know, a vision of making an impact and helping people and allowing them to do whatever we do, just helping them along the way, and we’re not making the impact that we’re looking to do.

And then we start looking on social and we start comparing ourselves to everybody else who’s out there and obviously way more successful and way easier for them. It’s easier for them because and we make all these other excuses for all these other things, and then we start to go, well, it’s not that way for me. And we start to create a plan B, So the plan B, I, I know we’ve talked about this endlessly too. I feel like the Plan B is also that secret saboteur. It is taking your plan A of I want to have this beautiful place in this location with water and X, Y, and Z included. And instead of saying I’ll take that and that by itself, instead, it would take you everyone else’s advice to just take anything that comes along your way. And so if you’re doing that, whether it’s for your house or for your business, and you’re saying, here’s a plan B, what if I do that?

Then you can see, like when we talk about housing, let’s talk to Amanda’s story, because I think it’s worthwhile to look at this example to see how specific we can be and when we’re not, what happens. So if you just said, okay, well, I know I really want this beautiful Narnia style living situation, to use your words. I want this beautiful Narnia living situation. But if I don’t get it because la la la la la la la la la la la la. Excuse, excuse, excuse. And I could just have the plan B. So see what already happens to my energy. It already totally deflates. Instead of being 100% into Narnia and Narnia alone and taking action, now all of a sudden there’s this, like, mystery question, door number two, and the energy is already depleted. And then I’m mostly focused in fear because I wouldn’t have a plan B and this extra opportunity if I didn’t have all that fear controlling me and saying this is the only other direction. And so if you have no more Plan B, then all your energy can actually go to the thing that you actually want.

But that’s what most people are doing, so they’re stuck with, I really want Narnia, but I’ll settle for this because I don’t think I can actually get Narnia because I’m not good enough, I’m not smart enough, I don’t have enough followers. I’m not whatever. And so we just settle at this lower vibration. And so then let’s say that you’re at this lower vibration and you’re trying to help people from this lower state.

Well, and they’ll keep it towards the housing, okay? I’m getting sidetracked because I’m making it about business, and I really want to keep it directed towards housing. So let’s say I really want to get a great house, except now I’m just not as energetically invested in it. So the energy that I’m putting out there into action. So all the things that Amanda’s now doing, she’s not just looking them up online. She’s going for visits, she’s applying, she’s going for a visit, and she’s going to the areas that she wants to live. If I’m not doing any of those things, my energy is not going to be anywhere near where hers is.

Let’s say we’re both looking for the same location. How about that? Me versus you. Let’s talk about taking action, aligned action. So we already know the ten things that Amanda has already done, if I’m thinking I want what Amanda wants, but I have a plan B, think about us, like on a race track. Amanda’s, like, so much further along already towards manifesting that because I still have this plan B kind of. Well, I don’t know. I’m going to self-sabotage the way I’m not going to apply for that thing because I probably won’t even get it anyway. So I’m not even going to put myself out there, let alone go take a look at the place. And so my chances of getting it are really slim to none.

So that’s like if we look at as far as like housing, how simplistic that is, not even business and the complexities of business. I love that you share the story because now we can kind of paint a picture. What happens when we have a plan B? So what are we going to say?

Amanda: There’s so much, there’s so much. Can we share on this show or no?

Emily: Well, yes, we do. Yeah. So I think that’s where it is. it encourages.

Amanda: Right. There’s so many things from what you said and I love this discussion so much for so many reasons. But I remember I used to be obsessed with Tony Robbins a long time ago, and I used to go I went to a lot of his conferences and stuff. One thing I remember him saying and that stuck with me is he said, If you want to take the island, burn the fucking boats and meaning, take away any chance of being able to go back because then you will take the island. Whatever is on the island, whatever is that is going to scare you, make you fearful. What are you going to do? You either have to take it and, you know, face it or you’re going to drown because you’re not in a boat anymore.

Emily: Yeah.

Amanda: And to me, I totally resonate with that because to me, a plan B is a complete energy leak. It is another signal that I say, I want this, but I kind of want that. Right. And I have always been a really big believer in like faith is about trusting in what you can’t see, obviously. But like like you just said, like coming back to housing. We were traumatized because I don’t know if I ever told you this, but before we got our dream house, we had another dream house and we were meant to move in, the day off day was like 8 p.m. and the landlord called us and we had nowhere else to go. It looked like a miracle. And he called us and said, sorry, I just in my gut, I didn’t feel this is right. And early the next morning we had nowhere to go. So we had this like massive disappointment and so everything. Visually and physically in evidence, wisely told us, is you just need to take whatever you’re given.

And we had and this is part of, I think, success as well as we had the guts and the grit to say hi and to your point of like there’s so much more like in business than there is in something as simple as housing. There is still this there’s we believed that we were worthy of that, right. We have that same belief of like, we don’t need one. This is one dream house, right? And we didn’t just come and see it. We came back two days later and we put our hands all over the gate and we just said we didn’t force it. We said, if this is for our highest good, let it work out. It is ours. And then we walked around and we got to know the area and we just like really fell into it and like claimed it as ours if it was for us. Right?

I truly believe rejection is protection. So I was like, well, the thing that didn’t work, I didn’t make it about me. There’s something wrong with me. Like I, I suck. Like I’m obviously rubbish at manifestation. That’s why this house didn’t work out. It was like, it’s protection. And you know what? The guy sold it six months later, so.

Emily: Wow

Amanda: He would have had to move out anyway.

Emily: Yes.

Amanda: And we got redirected to a place which we’d never even been to. And it turns out we’ve been here three years now and turns out it’s like heaven for us, right? So I bring all of that up because I truly believe, like you said, we had a plan B, none of that would have happened. And that is often what I see in online business owners is like, if things aren’t working out, there’s this. It’s very quick to just go to this other option. And like you said, you’re not splitting your energy 50-50. You know, you’re actually putting 80% of your energy to this. And then you don’t have the literally not just the physical energy, but the spiritual energy to put towards this thing. Right?

Emily: Right.

Amanda: So, yeah, that’s what I was saying.

Emily: I love that. And rejection is protection. Everybody write that down. Rejection is protection. And because sometimes take a hit and it’s just like we make it mean all these other things when it really doesn’t need to. The thing that has always helped me, especially with housing and every big decision I’ve ever made, is really this or something better. Like it’s either this or this is just opening that door to something even better that’s coming. So I’m open for this. But if it’s getting better and this O-M-G, yes, I’m so down, so then you can actually be like, happy. When the plan A that your focus 100% on doesn’t pan out because you know there’s part of us especially, you know, if you’re a homeowner and you’re buying a house like you know even if your offer is accepted on a house, it doesn’t mean it’s yours until the damn keys in your hand like that, so many things can happen.

And so, you know, for people who are homeowners, it’s not really that different than when you’re a renter. Like, it’s not necessarily yours until you know it’s absolutely yours. And so that’s where you have to really have that faith and, you know, use all these spiritual tools. I want to kind of switch gears into let’s talk about, you know, the Plan B and the lack thereof and what that can do for a business. Because, you know, like I said, and I wanted to pull the curtain back and I wanted to make this a little bit vulnerable about myself and about the business, because I feel like that’s also part why you guys are here and why you stick around because, you know, it’s no bullshit, it’s no fluff. And this is an honest place where you can check in with people who are going to tell you like it is. And it’s not just crystals and unicorns around here, although there are a lot of unicorns. And if you don’t like them, then you know where the door is. 🙂

Amanda: She really means that.

Emily: I do really mean that. I’m not even one of those like, sorry, not sorry. I’m not sorry. But truthfully, it’s like, you know, I got to a point where, you know, for the last year birthing the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training was a labor of love, and I literally had to shut down other I didn’t know why, I was shutting down my programs at the end of the previous year. I just knew I needed to.

And then I bought this program. So like I had that faith to know I’m always being guided. I had no idea. Not even like an ounce of like, I wonder about this certification idea. It was not on my radar, whatsoever. It wasn’t until I close my programs down at the end of November, early December, it wasn’t until the end of January where I downloaded the entirety of my program. And then we didn’t meet until the March, we didn’t meet until the March, and then I sold it in June and we started in July. So like basically the entirety of 2022, I shut down huge revenue streams.

Amanda: Yeah

Emily: To choose a brand new program that was not tested and proven.I was going through those motions right then and taking a huge risk. And by doing so, by the end of the year, I was at a place where I was in a contraction year and I’ve talked about this on previous podcast. It was a contraction year. Up until then, all of my years were like expand, expand 2x, 3x party time, get down.

And that was new for me to feel a contraction and to know I have a team of people who I pay them so that they can support their families. And I didn’t want to take anything away from my team. And that meant making sacrifices for myself and I sacrificed myself and other things so that I can make sure that everyone could keep all the lights on. And at this point, entering this year, we were at a crossroads where I said, all right, so I need help. Like we need to figure something out fast because we really like things need to change. And I have this incredible business. I have this incredible community. I am here for this one purpose, to spread this light and to do like activation to millions of people across the planet. And I don’t have a plan B, There is nothing else other than this for me. Like this is it. And we had this really kind of serious call. And I remember you saying, like, this is my only thing to I don’t have a plan B either. I’m here for it. I’m here for you. We’re going to do this.

And I remember it bringing me to tears because that was the first time that I really, truly felt like seen and held by anybody. And I felt it deeply like, even as I say now, like I’m tapping into like, the feelings that I felt and to feel like that I wasn’t alone and like, because I had felt like I’m the captain of the ship and we’re all doing the thing that Emily wants to do. But suddenly, like, I was the copilot and it wasn’t all on me anymore, and you basically gave me permission to take care of myself so that the business could run and I could take care of myself. Because I had been working so damn hard, I needed a break. And you saw that. I mean, we also had an awesome human design written by Aycee Brown, which also facilitated some of these choices. But through that, it was like you gave me permission to do the self-care that I really needed to do to take a break, to rest, to nurture myself and to get myself really back into a higher state. And I never felt afraid. I never felt worried. I was like, okay, Amanda’s got this. And we had this. I don’t know how was the time was like reality, but, like, it felt like the next day you woke up and you’re like, I had this amazing vision. Was it like, what was the actual timeline? I know…

Amanda: Those vision? I feel like I’ve had so many.

Emily: Like when you had the vision for and then like Gustav had the bread pudding thing that.

Amanda: oh, that was like sometime in Feb, like mid Feb.

Emily: Okay, So but like, from that conversation, maybe it was like a week maybe, or from when we were talking about like we got to turn things around.

Amanda: Yeah, it was like a few days.

Emily: It was a few days.

Amanda: Yeah.

Emily: Yeah. So I want to just kind of open up to the fact that, you know, this was like a dark night of the soul for me, like, for the business, for me. And I know that a lot of people have been feeling this climate of put your money where your mouth is. Walk your walk, sister. Like, get out there. You said you’re going to do this. Go do it. Let’s see. We’re going to stack all the cards up against you to see if you can still do it. And for me, I was like, Well, we better get out the bulldozer because I am only doing this. And also, but it also took you I couldn’t have just kept plowing away at it. I needed to actually step out so that I could recharge.

Amanda: Yeah.

Emily: And so, when Amanda said, you know, she uses her intuition for this feminine and masculine approach. What you did was you went into deep meditation and you started to channel and you channel some really powerful ideas. And essentially what birthed one of our most successful. For instance, I mean, in a recent, the recent past, one of the most successful workshops we’ve ever done. And when you’re like, here’s what’s going to be in like for a week, I was like, wait, what am I teaching again? And it evolved. And then all of a sudden I was like, here’s what I’m going to teach. Wait, the option is going to look like this. And here’s the thing is and we changed it, but it had this resurgence of energy. And now we’re at this place where we had some huge wins. And we’ve seen sort of like, the light has parted.

But I would love to kind of bring our listeners back into a little bit of like the spiritual practices that we also did to get to that place, because it wasn’t just Emily’s going to like leave the company and Amanda is going to run things like. Do you want to share a little bit of like the spiritual stuff that we did and what you did that really helped us to align for that level of success?

Amanda: Yeah. Yeah, I’d love to. And I think just before I go to that, I want to say that it – you explained it really well, but I think even then sometimes people get it couldn’t have been that bad. It was bad, people. It wasn’t. It was bad. It was really, a really challenging time. But the things that I saw you do that are part of what I believe successful people do is you always bettering yourself, you always back on yourself, and you’ve always said that. And I think a lot of people don’t. You have that belief, right, that like it’s going to work out. And I think that that’s both the belief in yourself and in spirit. And that’s why a lot of people need your work, is that they’ve got like a lot of subconscious programming and energetic ties and wounds that prevent them from having that belief. So that’s, that’s the first thing.

But then the second thing is even the days we were like, I literally can’t do this anymore. The next morning you’re like, messaging me. I’ve got an idea. She’s relaxed like you let yourself feel it. But you didn’t stay there, right? And I think it’s okay to feel we’re not telling people like you always have to be a high vibe. And it’s like it’s important to not spiritually bypass, but it’s also important to remember your mission. And you’ve always had a very clear reason for why you do what you do. And so I think that’s really important to say that.

But yeah, in terms of the spiritual tools, they all came out like we, you know, we both spent time in meditation separately and together. We both channeled together and just, you know, almost all our meetings. We have some form of whether it’s like just centering or whether it’s pulling cards. We pull cards a lot. You’ve got the pendulum out before. We’ve asked for guidance. We even brought my husband in once for that three-way session, which was awesome. And so we did so much like on the spiritual side. But also I would say, I mean, I see the physical as also spiritual, like you needed to the sounds crazy, but like you needed to go and play.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: You needed to go and have fun. And I understand the feeling of like when everything in you is saying, I don’t have time for that. Like, you know, we got to make money, we got to do the thing. And it’s like, but you’re being called to do this because in the rest, is the growth, right? In the rest, is the healing. And that’s what you needed.
And so I know that some people might be listening to this thinking, Oh, it’s okay for you. You had someone to run your business. No, it wasn’t like, it was really hard for you to like, not because you didn’t trust me, but there’s so many things wrapped up in it, and it was hard to be like, I’m going to go and just like knith, will like, walk or go play with my dog or just be right.

Emily: Yeah. Yeah.

Amanda: And so that was a huge part of like you had to physically and energetically recharge. And in all of this, you were still running a business. So I think sometimes people think like when they’re in that place and they think that’s the difference between a hobby, kind of a, you know, coach or healer and like someone that sees it as the business is, you don’t just shut up, shut and be like, I need healing. I’m down. Like you having the healing on the side.

Emily: Right.

I know you’re working with practitioners as well because you were also showing up and doing the coaching calls and running the certification and showing up for your membership. It wasn’t like you were like, I’m out there.

Emily: Right.

Amanda: And so I think that all of those things are really important, right? It’s like having that vision and having that belief, having that grit and using your spiritual tools, using that. I always say, like, we teach what we most need. I’m sorry. Yeah. We teach what we most need to learn. Right? And like, it’s so I’ve worked with so many people who are not in alignment with their own message. And I can say, like I’ve said this to you privately many times, like that is not you. You are like 100% integrity in alignment to what you preach is how you live. And I truly don’t believe you would have come out of this, if you didn’t use the very tools that you teach.

Emily: Yeah, I agree. And I appreciate you saying that. And that is true. It wasn’t that I was like just signing out. I was allowing myself a new identity.

Amanda: Yeah.

Emily: My identity last year was really working hard to birth something and to deliver it and to nurture it and to feed it like, a like I was birthing a baby and it literally took us nine months of gestation to birth. It was crazy, right? We’ll look back, like oh my gosh. And then I was probably in like postpartum, you know, of like it’s out and now I need to do what am I doing? And so I but also I was seeking out ways to heal. And the things that I had been doing. And you mentioned practitioner. So, I still got regular energy work, massage therapy.

I started to see a hypnotherapist. That was something that was brand new to me. And I felt that the reason why I chose hypnosis was because I had inner child wounds that had been resurfacing throughout like the recent past. And so I, I just asked a friend for referral, got the referral, made the appointment, loved it, started seeing this person. So her name is Kristen Dwan and I’ll probably have her on the podcast at some point.

But what I got back last week was a progress report from just five weeks prior. I had shared before hypnosis that I was feeling heavy, I wasn’t feeling in the flow. I wasn’t feeling very inspired and excited. I wasn’t feeling light. I was feeling anxious and stressed out and worried financially. And so she had me grade myself on a scale from 1 to 10 of how I was feeling those things in like ten more, I mean, 20 more, I don’t even know. And five weeks later, now this is me. I’m integrating. I’m doing all of my meditations every day. I’m going outside of nature, I’m eating healthy foods. I’m taking supplements. I am drinking water.

I’m like, I’m doing cold plunging. I started to do cold plunging, and the cold immersion and the hypnosis, I think, have completely started to transform me, plus the time away to play. And what I was using the hypnosis like twice a day, if not more, to five weeks in the future.

When we went back and I just kind of feel want to look back at what those numbers were. How are you feeling with these, this and this? And I was on like, you know, how do you feel with anxiety? I was like an eight out of ten. Then she says, how do you feel now? And I said I’m like a two. She’s like, what? How about in the flow? And I said, Oh, I feel like I’m like, of nine. And she’s like, you were two. Okay? Like, these are not just like small incremental shifts. These are enormous leaps.

And so what I want to share back to our initial point and your point about and having faith and having guts and grit is like I was down, but I wasn’t out and I was going to work on myself and play and work through the rejection and work through all the things that I felt like were stacked up against me because my vision and my faith was stronger than anything.

Amanda: Yes.

Emily: And, you know, as much as I could make excuses about, like, well, it’s the environment and people and money and their session. And that’s not true, because there’s people out there who are absolutely crushing it. And so I’m not the type of person who makes excuses. Like I can say, well, this is the climate and this is what we have to be. Innovative and use our intuition. Our intuition helps us to navigate. And so when we use all these spiritual tools, we can collaborate intuitively and, you know, and the end. And I have this amazing synergy that when we sit together in meditation and we channel, it’s like, I’m getting something, she is getting something, and we kind of build this like thing that we don’t know that we’re building. And all of a sudden it’s like, look what we made.

And, so I want to just share that is like. This is the nice podcast episode that I want to share of, like it can be this darker place and you can come through it, when you have this vision and you have this grit and there is no more plan B and you take the help when it’s handed out to you. And this is also about betting on myself. I bet on myself. But I also felt like in those dark times I was bullied here to be of service to other people. And so I didn’t make it about me in my own personal struggles, but I had to work on my own stuff, too. But so this is I think it’s kind of a darker, I don’t know, heavier episode to see like this side of the business. But I also think it’s really important for you to know, it just, it just is. And so, you know, I remember when I was first getting started, I had a hard time. When you’re first getting started, when you’re trying to get those first ten customers, those first 50 customers, those first hundred followers, an email subscribers, like that’s the steep side of the learning curve.

And for those folks who are at that place and you feel like giving up, I want you to hear my story because it doesn’t just get better. Once you’ve made a million dollars in your business and everything is just so much easier once you have 9,000 and 15 thousand followers and how many? I don’t know, 600,000 downloads. Like, it doesn’t get easier. The place where you’re at now, getting those first ten, those first 100. It’s the same grit and determination from that exact ladder point to the next huge ladder point, the bigger rungs. It’s that same you’re building that foundation when you can start to have blind faith and say, like what you said, like, burn the boats. You’re able to focus your energy on just one thing.

And so, you know, I think that’s what helped me attract you into my business, you know, that I was like, I know I’m here to serve this high level and that’s that. So the universe is like, here’s this amazing human that is going to help with all that. And I mean, I remember at some point, I remember what I was listening to or looking back, but I was like, oh my gosh, I’ve been praying for you since whatever time it was. I’m like, oh my gosh, you are the person I was praying for all that time. And it’s like we we’re so focused on like the future of what’s going forward in front of us that we don’t often take time to look back at, to see truly like the magic that we have manifested in like the Americans that are already in front of us. And that, you know, we know that line of like the things that you have today is what you prayed for, you know, years ago.

And is there something that you feel like you can say that about right now of like the practitioner you, the coach you, the person who is just like figuring it out, the person who lost their housing. Like what you have today. Is there something that you can say besides the house as well of course. But that’s something that you have today that you can say that you know for sure. You have prayed for years ago and you are like living your wildest dreams right now.

Amanda: Oh, so many things. I mean, you know this, but like the day that you messaged me and said, we need to take this to the next level. That morning I declared out loud for the first time, like, I want to work with more people like Emily. I literally said those words, I want more clients like Emily. And then that day you were like, hey, we need to talk. Like it was like, what? And I know that it was my willingness and audacity to say what I wanted of that through. I often feel like Spirit is literally like I have all these things for you. You just need to give me the signal that you were ready, right?

Emily: Yeah. Yeah.

Amanda: It’s like it’s, it’s there. Like when you have that belief system and I’ve had to work a lot on that. I am safe, I am protected. I’m everything is for me in this world. Like you attract those things to you, right? But like, you have to have that belief. So I really see like, experiences that like, I want to give it to you. I want you to just stay safe because that is absolutely. My husband, he’s my best friend. We’ve been married 13 years. I met him when I was 16. We didn’t get together for seven years and I always said, I will never marry that guy. But I was literally praying for my future partner and I didn’t know it was him.

But again, I think what’s so important I’ve learned I used to be so specific and now I’m glad to be specific and open like you. Like that’s my version of this or something better, right? Like, yeah, I’m like, there is so much out there for me and I can only see what I know. Like, there’s only like, I can only ask for what I can imagine, but what if there’s more, right? So I asked for what I could imagine in a in a husband. And then he walks through the door seven years later and it’s like, oh, yeah, it’s him.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: Always been him. I just couldn’t see it before. So yeah, I mean, I could get and on but those are two right?

Emily: That’s how I felt about my husband actually I joke about that because I had a previous boyfriend before him that was like very aloof and kind of here or there. And I would make a list between boyfriends of like the attributes that I really found, like, what are really like my core values, what I’m really looking for here. And I always joke that Andrew, my husband, hit all of them except for being like over six feet tall like that. He just didn’t meet my requirements.

Amanda: Oh, I got that!

Emily: Yeah, you got that. Know exactly clear to me the height requirement. But are we really going to be…

Amanda: right, exactly.

Emily: But I’m only five foot two anyways, so it’s fine. But I think it’s really important that we are able to acknowledge where we’re at, you know, and like you mentioned, like not to be spiritually bypassing the hard and the difficult and the depth of where we need to go. I think from that place we’re planting the new seeds. We’re in that depth, we’re in that darkness, we’re in that hibernation period. But it’s only a period. And I think that’s one thing that, you know, nature has always repeatedly taught me is this is a cycle and this is not a permanent thing. And if we can ride out the season, there’s going to be another season after this and it’s going to get better. It’s going to get brighter. And so for anybody listening to this and you’re in one of those darker nights of the soul in one of those heavier seasons, I want this very vulnerable share. Hopefully, I don’t regret this. I haven’t regretted really having any of these podcast episodes.

But I mean, this is really sharing like my own struggles. And I and I hope that you can hear where I’m at. And, you know, Amanda and I have partnered up in this way to say like this faith is the driver, this vision is the driver, but it can’t be that alone. And so even on your darkest days, it’s important to focus on that faith and do the deeper work so you can keep delivering that message that only you can do. And it is not doing the world any service. When you create a Plan B and you oscillate between this or that, it’s like just be with you are joy, with your passion, with your purpose, with that vision. And keep praying to create whatever that is for you. And it doesn’t matter if you’re on your own or you have a team of people. Because if you have a team of people, I would almost say it’s a little bit harder because they have to be on board with your vision. And that’s the other thing I want – I mean, my other team members, Rio and Shaunah, aren’t here on the call right now, but. They are 100% in alignment with our vision.

Amanda: Yes.

Emily: And every single Monday, I set an intention and I sent an audio note to everybody to set an intention for us as a team collectively and individuals that we can serve on our highest level to raise the level of consciousness and bring harm to none. And they believe in the vision. They see the vision, they are cheering on the vision. And so, you know, I couldn’t do my work by myself. It would not happen. I wouldn’t make nearly half the impact that I’m making today, even a fraction. So it is the collective energy of my team.

But if you are a solo entrepreneur, trust yourself, trust yourself in the process. Would there be any closing words that you would have for folks that they’re on their own? Or if they are on the team to help them to stay in their vision, even if they’re having that sort of darker time.

Amanda: Yeah. I mean, I think what I would say is it’s kind of coming back to your dark night of the soul. And we’ve all had them right where one of the things that you did was you always took responsibility and you always said it wasn’t like a blame thing, but you would say. What am I doing or not doing? That’s not attracting the right people or not getting the results that we want, right? But yes, acknowledge what’s going on, but you always bring it back to yourself. And so I would say that as hard as it is, like, look inside, think if you’ve done all the things and this is actually come back to my coaching business, there were times where it was hugely successful. But a lot of the times it was not. And it was because I was doing all the external stuff. And it’s important. Like, I know how to basically do everything in an online business. However, I never looked at myself. I never dealt with my blogs. I never dealt with my core wounds, past life, and ancestral stuff, like I didn’t know how to.

And that’s why I love the work you do, because you have this beautiful marriage of both, right? Like the program we just released, The Accelerated Path is soul and strategy. And I think that’s so important. And so what I would say is like, don’t just focus on the strategy. Make sure you’re going in and you’re asking for guidance like also guidance. Ask what is it that I need and then take action.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: Because I believe success is inevitable for everyone. And so if you’ve been given a calling and you feel like I’m meant to be doing this work in the world, then do this work in world. But sometimes you have to actually, like, deal with what’s going on to be able to If it’s fear of being seen, if it’s whatever it is, like deal with that so that you can serve the people you’re here to serve.

Emily: So smart. I love that it’s all about action. I mean, even when I think about like taking less of a front seat in the business, I’m taking action every day, doing the damn thing to make the changes and taking responsibility. That’s so smart. I think we could definitely keep sharing more. And I would love you know, I know we will be doing more live calls, more Q&A is more coaching calls. So if you guys, you know, resonate with this episode and you want to connect with me and Amanda outside of this episode, you can definitely find us on Instagram.

Obviously, on my website I will be doing some specials on my shop page because it is our four-year anniversary, so we’ll have that all listed on the podcast episode itself, so that you can get all kinds of meditations and classes and workshops so that you can take this work a little bit deeper.

And of course, the next thing we have coming up, really we’re going to be planning. So like you’re going to hear this first, we are going to be rolling out Intuition week again. We have not done Intuition Week for so long. We are so, so excited to bring Intuition Week back. It’s going to be back and better than ever, maybe with some really great new fresh stuff. So if you’ve done it before, this is a whole new time to do it again.

Plus, this season it’s a great time to just really open up your intuition, especially for your business again, coaches, healers and leaders. And then in June, we’ll be reopening the doors to the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training again. So if that is something that you’re excited about, it is the first and only energy-based training with a profit guarantee, friends.

So this episode is kind of like scratching the surface of how deep that work goes. You’re going to learn the energy work like I do, and then you’re going to learn the business work like I do and how to really marry the two of them. So both of those things are coming up. We’ll have everything on the show notes as well as on the podcast website.

Thank you, Amanda, for being my special guest today. This was such a big conversation. So thank you for your wisdom and your insights. You dropped some bombs on here. So thank you for joining me.

Amanda: Oh, you’re welcome. Thank you so much for having me.

Emily: All right, listeners, make sure you take a screenshot, tag me in your Instagram stories. Let me know what’s your biggest AHA was. Did this episode give you peace of mind knowing you’re not the only one struggling and that you know you can have faith and move on to the next place and just take some wind action? Let me know what came up for you. And as always, your reviews mean so much to me, so always leave a nice review over on your favorite listening platform after you’ve listened to this episode. And we’ll see you in the next episode. Thanks again. Lots of love to all.

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