Conquering Ascension Symptoms: Navigating Personal Growth and Self-Care

Conquering Ascension Symptoms: Navigating Personal Growth and Self-Care

Conquering Ascension Symptoms:

Navigating Personal Growth and Self-Care

Have you ever felt like you’re experiencing “growing pains” during a significant period of personal growth and expansion? I know I have! In this episode, I open up about my own journey with ascension symptoms and how they can manifest when we disrupt the status quo. Our ego might try to protect us by keeping things as they are, but this can lead to feelings of doubt and anxiety.

I share my personal experiences of going through various levels of growth and how my relationships have evolved along the way. I also explore the concept of “new level, new devil” – how as you ascend, new issues or obstacles may appear even when you thought you’d worked through them at lower levels.

But fear not, there are ways to manage these ascension symptoms and prioritize self-care! In the second part of the episode, I share essential tips on staying hydrated, spending time in nature, and listening to your body’s needs. I delve into the importance of eating nourishing foods, getting enough sleep, and setting aside intentional time for rest.

To wrap things up, I offer insight on being mindful of our thoughts and feelings and allowing ourselves the time to heal and rest during these intense growth periods. Tune in for an enlightening and empowering conversation on navigating the challenges of personal ascension while prioritizing self-care.

Highlights you won’t want to miss:
  • [0:00:07] Understanding Ascension Symptoms
  • [0:07:27] The Physical Effects of Spiritual Growth
  • [0:12:02] Managing Ascension Symptoms and Prioritizing Self-Care
  • [0:13:20] Avoiding Ascension Symptoms With Water
  • [0:19:55] Letting Go and Finding Freedom

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Hey, podcast listeners, welcome back. This is a special episode because I know at some point or another, or especially now or after Intuition Week or after a big launch, you will have experienced ascension symptoms. And I want to talk about Ascension symptoms. I want to talk about what is, and what is not and give you some really easy ways to really handle this kind of feeling that might be going on with you.

So let’s start off at the beginning. What is an ascension symptom?

Basically, when you are going through an expansion or a growth period, you will also get sort of like the aftershock. So what I always teach my students is energy before form. So you might have this big idea for growth or what you want to manifest or make a bigger impact or make more money and the energy comes into your field. And then when you start to put the work together, then things start to shift. Maybe you start to see more new clients and you start to get some new connections. Maybe you have a new like offer on the table, maybe you buy a new home, maybe you have a new relationship, whatever. Things start to come into form.

And when that starts to happen, sometimes our energy is like, Oh, I mean, I wanted a good thing to happen, but like, I don’t know who’s going to be this good. I don’t know how I can handle this. And so sometimes what happens is our ego shows up because essentially we have disrupted the status quo. Our ego is just trying to keep us safe and to just hold that status quo so that nothing disturbs you.

So when you start to dream bigger and things start to shift and change, your ego is like, no, no, no, no, no, don’t do that. Remember that time that you tried to do the thing but you failed? Remember those people laughing at you when you were really trying to be visible and your ego starts to show you these images and starts to deliver this like actual visceral response into your body that floods you with fear and worry and anxiety and like, I don’t know, can I do it? Doubt.

And so what I love to start with is that that is the evidence of your growth. When you start to feel actually kind of shitty, when you feel a little shitty and a little bit worried and a little bit panicked and have a little bit of anxiety, just attach. It’s your system recognizing a shift happening, growth, change, disruption, because really, you know, the Emily that’s here to impact millions of people back when she started doing energy healing and massage if you said, all right, you’re going to have all these speaking opportunities and you’re going to impact the lives of thousands of people, and then it’s going to be millions of people that Emily, that version of me would have never been able to do it.

She wasn’t equipped both energetically, spiritually, financially. She didn’t know the strategy. She would have been like, Oh, no, you don’t. It’s because every day sort of little at a time, I began to like peel off and like, bless and release the old version of myself. Emily 2.0., Emily 3.0., Emily 150.0. And so as I progress and as I ascend, I’m literally becoming a different version of myself, which also can impact our relationships, our friendships. You know, the people who you grew up with. And you were super close with our family members who know you as this one type.

And now all of a sudden you’re like, I am actually super into spirituality and crystals and astrology and human design and breathwork and maybe plant medicine. And really I want to be responsible for my health and well-being. And just because you decide on those different things, it then disrupts your friendships as well. So ascension symptoms can happen on that energetic, emotional, and physical level. And they can also start to disrupt like the relationships that are also happening in your life.

And so I’m going to give you another example of this. So as we’re growing, as we’re studying, we’re breaking up with ourselves for open up to the next level. We’ve heard the quote, new level, new devil, and that is kind of like ascension symptoms. So, you know, as a practitioner, healer, you know, I see that. Okay, there’s an issue, let’s say inner child, okay, When I’m working on my own inner child or even when I’m working on somebody else’s, I know it’s not just a one-and-done like you don’t work on your inner child issues and then never again after that. Would you ever have to look back at your inner child stuff? That’s never going to happen.

Similarly, on this ascension path, if you are literally trying to grow, make more money, make a bigger impact, it’s like a little staircase. And so if you have swept the staircase of, you know, money issues, good. Now we’re on the next step. Okay, Daddy issues. Okay, next step. Money issues. Again, I said I work that money issues two steps ago. No, this is the new level. This is a new level of your money issue. I know you worked on the money issue at the lower level, but now congratulations. You hit a new financial milestone.

Also, there’s a whole new level of money issue shit that you have to deal with up on this level. So it doesn’t just go away because you make more money. And I think that’s a huge misconception that people, you know, aspire to get to six figures, most likely because we’ve been programmed to think that six figures is like the be-all end-al, which is a totally different subject for another day.

However, a lot of people believe that if you hit six figures, then you have financial freedom. Then you can do what you want and you can hire team members and you can go on fancy vacations and you can put away money for a brand new house that you’re going to build in a Ferrari. But that’s not exactly how it works, for one thing. But also when we have this new level, we have a new level and there you are.

And Emily 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, but still the same Emily who went through the stuff that she went through. And I know everybody who is listening on this podcast right now you have been through some stuff. You wouldn’t be here today if you hadn’t been through all of that. And I just want to take a moment because the fact that you’re listening to this Ascension Symptoms episode, it’s also a reflection and an honoring and an acknowledgment of how far you’ve come. Because even if you hear me saying, Oh, I’m Emily 2.0, it’s you 2.0 or 3.0 or 100.0, whatever it is, you have gone through some stuff, you’ve gone through some traumatic stuff, you’ve gone through some real like break you down. This might be the end of you stuff and you made it through it.

So that says like you’ve got gumption, you have strength, you have power, you have conviction, you have this endurance now, and you have these lessons now that you can take forward to help other people. I know you’re all here to help other people, right? So most likely you’ve already experienced some of these things.

So I’m going to list off a bunch of things that most likely you’ve already experienced, but it’s worthwhile to just rattle them off and mention again. So easy top line like going down. So typically when we’re having massive growth in ascension, we will experience or even like open up spiritually, So I know a lot of folks who just did Intuition Week with me or your new and my membership and you’re listening to so many energy healings.

It’s kind of cracking you open a little bit. And that’s not a bad thing because you’re going to become more intuitive, you’re going to become more sensitive, you’re going to become more awake and aware and it’s just like you’re going to be flooded with so much insights and inspiration all the time. And also it’s new and it sort of hurts a little bit. So, you know, Intuition Week is a little bit like drinking out of the fire hose when you’re around me so much, you get a lot of energy and so afterwards can feel like a little bit of a hole. What just happened exactly Is everybody okay to have all my limbs?

So some of the things that you can feel, especially when you’re cracked open energetically, even you can get headaches, you can get body aches, you can get flu-like symptoms, like a detox. So you could even have like nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, upset stomach. You can have sometimes I’ve seen people who’ve come here who share that they have rashes when there is ascending body pain. So if you have chronic neck issues or chronic back issues, guess what’s gonna flare up for you?

Yeah. When you are going through growth, you’re going to notice particular areas, sometimes zones, and sometimes a side of the body that begins to flare up for you. So I’ll give you a fine example.

So recently when I was opening up for more people coming into Intuition Week and coming into Mastery & Ascension and then Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training, I’m opening up the energy with my team and we’re only holding the energy. That’s it. We’re just holding the energy, we’re setting intentions.

And then I did a retreat. I hosted a retreat in person. And as I was done with the retreat, I always schedule a week off for integration on my basically like my first day, I guess, of integration, I was reaching for something.

I sit on the couch with my kids and I was reaching for something and I lower back, went, hey, how are you doing? And I knew in that moment like this could go really bad, really fast. I’ve had chronic low back pain in the past. I’ve had back spasms. I’ve had to take muscle relaxers because I was like, like incapacitated. So I said to my husband, like, please get the ice pack immediately. My back may just have done something weird. I need to set it right now. And so I put ice on it right away. I put ice on a physical problem. But I knew it had nothing to do with me leaning and reaching over and pulling something on my back. That was a symptom of the ascension that was experienced. So I know it’s time to listen. Our body is always speaking to us. So it’s really important that we listen to it. When my back did the funny little thing, it did. I could have just been like, Oh, it’s okay. Just really hurts. I’ll just take some pain reliever and, you know, whatever. It’s fine and ignore it.

When you have a physical symptom like a headache or nausea or your back is out and spasming or something, I invite you to go into it, get curious. What is it that you would like to tell me that I haven’t been paying attention to yet?

Fortunately for me and with my back, I knew my back was flaring up almost at the moment. I was thinking that I was fine to kind of work a little bit that like that week my body was like, Oh, no, you don’t, bitch. No, thank you. You’re not working, you are resting, you are integrating. This is not the time to go play and have little fun, work, dates and all that. No, it’s not this week. And so I rested.

And what’s interesting is a couple of days later, I was actually feeling better. I went for a long walk and when I came home, I was stretching with my son. Guess what I thought again? Stupid me. Oh, I feel fine. I’ll go do something. Guess what? My back flared up again. So this is the like your body is giving you the flashing red lights. Pay attention. Slow down. Get with it or you pay the price.

So when I actually listened and I stopped making all these plans, even they were just in my head. My body fully recovered, and it happened really fast. I have friends like one of my close friends. She said that her back had flared up when she was doing something recently as well.
Seeing your physical body showing you where it hurts is also great information. Where your information is coming in is all it means something. So maybe it is your head, maybe it is your forehead, you know.

A lot of times when people are opening up with their intuition, you have all kinds of forehead and sometimes sinus pain because it’s like your third eye is like literally opening up energy, you know, energetically open, not literally open. Your face is still where it is, but you’re energetically really being open and stretched. That is what happens. It’s completely normal. And to know, oh, it’s not just had pain in my sinuses or like my neck, it’s actually my body’s trying to tell me something.

So the best thing that you can start to do for your ascension pain is number one, like you’ve heard me say, is to tune into it, listen to it, get curious, go into where is it located?

Because also in our we you know, we talk about energy centers and your energy centers start everywhere in your body source energy. But we have specific energy centers.

So let’s just talk about that for one quick second. Where it hits you in your body can also relay a lot of information. You can do a simple Google search, like what does it mean when I have this thing in my body energetically? So what? The easiest way to start to avoid ascension symptoms is to do things on a regular basis.

So one of the first things I do is I drink excessive amounts of water. So I always have like a giant mason jar of water on my desk at all times. If I normally drink like three of those a day, I might have four or five of them a day. I mean, I’m really increasing my water significantly because when you think of like an athlete who is really pushing themselves and you get your muscles get sore when you drink more water, it helps to flush out the lactic acid that makes your muscles sore. Okay.

So the same goes for when you’re energetically opening or you’re ascending, you’re making more impact, you’re making more money. When things are going right, you might have that ego that says, no, no, no, sabotage days your day, you don’t keep going. So when you drink more water and you can actually help your body flush through some of those things, the thoughts, the feelings.

Likewise, you want to get outside in nature. So getting outside of nature, putting your feet on the ground, if you can, being with a tree, a plant, a mineral, even by the ocean or the lake, like really make a space to get outside to really ground yourself, eating foods that feel nourishing to you. It doesn’t need like it doesn’t need to be the healthiest food of all time.

But I will say I have spoken to very few people in all my years, 23 plus years, that people actually crave something that was really toxic or unhealthy for them during the session. Typically, we’re looking for warming foods or nourishing foods. Sometimes it’s teas or soups or herbs, root vegetables, obviously super grounding. But don’t be afraid if your body is like craving chocolate cake, it might be your inner child. That’s healing. And she just needs a piece of chocolate cake. So just really honor your body wherever it is and whatever it needs.

Sleep. Sleep is one of the best things you can do for your ascension. It’s underrated because sometimes sleep can be fleeting, but really being able to prioritize getting enough sleep is going to help your whole body to rest, to heal, to go into that theta brainwave, to really go into like a deep, deep state of healing and as well as. Recovery, so you’ll bounce back faster.

And I also just mentioned it a minute ago, which is integration time. You know, we’re so busy going, going, going, going, going that we don’t actually make the space to intentionally rest when you just get when you get too sick because your ascension symptoms take you out with a stomach bug or a cold or flu or back pain or whatever, and you literally cannot work.

Then it’s time to obviously pump the brakes. That’s what happens when you don’t listen. So if you are smart, you get ahead of it and you go, right. I know this is a busy season. I’m going to plan for a quiet season or at least a break or a rest or a little mini-retreat or whatever you can do to actually make the space to intentionally shut down all the systems, reboot and come back online.

I promise you, what happens is you become that different next point-O person faster, and then you don’t have to get sick and feel like junk for a week and then have to rebuild and like cancel all the things. But also part of what we can do and process through ascension. Is the things that we’re not willing to look at when we’re just being busy.

So one of my team members, this happened to her when I was in my integration week. She was integrating at the same time. And so I remember she wanted to work all week and that was great. We had a lot of things going on. But then she started to feel a little crummy, and so she had to reschedule some of her meetings. And the next day came and she still felt crummy. And I remember talking to her and she’s like, I don’t know, I don’t want to have to cancel again. I already canceled before. And I’m like, you know, you’re allowed to cancel twice, right? And she’s like, What? And it was foreign to her. And I said, would you like some support or like coaching around this? I don’t have to, but if you want it, it’s here. And she said, Sure, yeah, I would love it.

I go, okay, well, let’s look at that. Like, what is the story that you are telling yourself that happens if you were to cancel again? And she said, Well, that I’m unprofessional and that it’s really flaky of me. And I said, okay, that’s great. This is just the information that your ego is feeding you to keep you exactly as status quo just where you are. Don’t grow, don’t move, don’t change. Right. And I said, well, what I would offer you is, number one, you are one of the most professional people I have ever met in my entire life. You are always on time. You’re very punctual. You hit get punctual, you hit deadlines, you get everybody to hit their deadlines. And in fact, that’s been your role doing various things in my business as well as other people. You know, you are exactly that professional person and you’re not flaky whatsoever. So, you know, is it true? Let’s ask you that. Are you flaky and unprofessional? And she said, No, I’m not.

I said, okay, so how do you show up when you believe that thought? This is the work by Byron Katie. This is not my genius. This is Byron Katie’s work. So if you’ve never heard of her, Loving What Is – is a great book to start with and to do these four questions.

So you ask, is it true? And she says, No, it’s okay. So you can absolutely be sure. And she said, No, it’s not true. So how do you show up when you believe that thought? She says, Well, I forced myself to do these meetings that I’m really not feeling up to. I said, Okay, well, think about that. Think about the person on the other side of that call that’s getting you at like kind of half-ass, like you’re doing that, you’re showing up, you’re doing the work, you’re on the meeting, but all the while you’re feeling like crap and your brain and your energy and everything in you is just not at 100%. How do you think they feel when that’s what they’re getting from you? They’re not getting the best version of you.

So that is another reason to understand why it’s actually important to cancel when you don’t feel also that you can be 100% present for all of your appointments and for your work that is actually more professional to cancel so that you can be 100% instead of being unprofessional and flaky and showing up like halfway laying down in your chair and like looking like total death.

So see how you can kind of reframe it. And then who would you be if you let go of that? If you let go of that thought, if you were free from that thought, how would you then show up? Oh, wow. If I was free for that thought, I would show up. I would cancel my appointments until I felt better. That would be fine. And I would feel more freedom. I would feel released. I feel relief.

So that’s what happened. So she was able to cancel appointments and she said, I felt you’re right. I felt instant relief as soon as I canceled and rescheduled. And actually the person who I changed the appointment with said, you have a right to be sick and you have every right to not feel good and to change your appointments. And even that was another lesson that she got, which was I can only be sick when it’s convenient.

And so I share this story with you because I think we all have these stories that we make up that keep us kind of small, kind of stagnant in our issues without actually giving ourselves the space to rest, to regenerate, and to then become ourselves, our true selves. And so again, if you are experiencing ascension symptoms, which, by the way, you should be if you’re here, if you’re an entrepreneur, if you’re a healer, if you’re a leader, if you are a coach and you are wanting to make an impact, you are going to experience this stuff probably more often than not. And so the other thing I would invite you to do, and this is my last tip, is get comfortable with it. This is your new normal again you feel like this. These things are happening. Your life is changing.

Family, friends, all your body, you’re getting these different symptoms. You and your body have to become your number one priority. If you can focus on your health and your healing, everything else starts to come back and come together for you. So make sure that you spend the time, even if it’s just a day. It doesn’t have to be a whole week off. But give yourself the space to have the space. Give yourself permission. Take the day, take the week without the guilt, without the worry, without wondering of like, who’s going to do this if I don’t do it, no one else can. No bullshit.

It’s going to get done. So trust is going to get done. And when you prioritize yourself, you prioritize your needs. You will grow faster. You will overcome those essential symptoms and you will be off to the next level. I’m not telling you it’s going to be a pain-free level, but I will guarantee it’s going to be a new level. So make this your new normal and take good care of yourself.

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Thanks so much for being here. Lots of love to you. We’ll see you on the next episode.

About Emily

Emily Aarons is a highly sought-after intuitive healer and business coach for coaches, healers, and leaders. She’s best known for clearing the energy to guide her clients out of survival mode and unlocking alignment, abundance, and exponential growth in their business. With over two decades of experience, Emily has honed her healing skills to create the first and only energy-based certification with a profit guarantee; the Integrated Energy Alignment training.

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Whitney McNeill is back! A few months ago, Whitney was a guest on my podcast, and I was a guest on hers. Both episodes were so wildly popular that we’ve decided to give you more of what you want.

We thought it would be fun to have you as listeners ask Whitney anything you want about spirit guides.

As usual, Whitney delivers insightful answers and helpful tips as only she can.

Highlights you won’t want to miss:
  • Tips for retaining images and messages you receive from spirit guides in your dreams.
  • Do our spirit guides send different signs (like feathers) depending on which guide is sending the message?
  • Can we have our spirit guides talk to our family member’s guides to help resolve problems?
  • Do spirit guides communicate with other spirit guides?
  • How can a spirit guide help you move an energy block and help you heal?

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Emily: Hey, podcast listeners, welcome back. I am joined today by a repeat guest and my dear friend Whitney McNeill. We love Whitney for her connection to Spirit Guides. So we had this awesome idea that we were going to have you guys, the audience, writing questions. Because when I was on Whitney’s podcast, when she was on mine, they were both blowing up. So we’re like, Well, let’s give the people what they want.

So, we’re doing a two-parter here. So the first part, you’re hearing it here today, which is the beginning of May. Tomorrow, I will be on Whitney and she will be asking me all about energy alignment. So today we’re going to be talking even more deeply about Spirit guides. We’re going to be answering all your questions. And as always, we want to just hear from you. If you’re loving this, we might even do it again. Don’t even tempt us.

So,  we’ll link the previous episode that Whitney was on, on my podcast as well as hers in the show notes, if you want to go back to listen to those, you definitely can and gain even more insight and all that energy.

So I’m not even going to have you introduce yourself because you already did that and people already love you. So let’s just dive right in. So first of all, hi. I’ll stop breathing. I’ll stop talking so you can say something warm welcome back to the podcast, Whitney!

Whitney: Emily, It’s good to be here. I love the energy of everybody, and it’s so great to see that Spirit Guides is such a hot topic. So, oh, my goodness so many questions about energy alignment and spirit guides. Can’t wait to dive in. So let’s get to it.

Emily: Let’s do it. I love this first question from Kristen. She asks about spirit guides in your dreams. So I know for me I sometimes have really super lucid dreams with repeated messages or like, really, I’ve had phone numbers and dreams of like some crazy cool stuff happens in dreams.

So she’s asking, “how can you retain the images and messages when you wake up”?

Whitney: Yeah, so this is a great question and I have so many different answers, so I’ll do my best to contain them all. But one of the best ways that your guides can give you the message when you feel like you haven’t developed your intuition or you feel like you’re just not getting the memo when you’re in your conscious, day-to-day activities are through dreams, which can also be astral travels.

And when we’re astral traveling, we usually don’t retain the message in our conscious mind for very long. It’s like I wake up, Oh my goodness, I knew I was someplace. I can just see it, I can hear it, I can feel it. But then it kind of wanes. So there’s a couple of things you can do.

One, talk to your spirit guides before you go to bed and say, I’d really love to go on an astral visit with you and receive your messages, but please help me retain and integrate it into my conscious awareness.

But also, I’d love to give Kristin permission not to remember because you’ll remember when you need to. It’s still in your energy. It’s just not been integrated into your brain in the forefront. But it’s like you have this card in your back pocket and all of a sudden you’re like, whoa, I know the answer (tsu-tsum!) You know, kind of like, here’s the card. Well, where did I know that? Like, where did that come from? You were on astral travel.

So that’s kind of a comforting wave where it’s like, wait a minute, I know I actually have it. I just don’t necessarily have to retain it. Rolling around with all the other stuff that we have in our day-to-day lives.

So I remember I went on an astral travel years ago and I came back and I thought I knew I went somewhere, but I don’t know what I really experienced. I just had an awareness that somebody was talking about celiac disease and I was like, okay, don’t remember anything about it. But then I started attracting clients that I’ll have celiac disease, and I was like, somewhere in my energy, I must know this because it wasn’t something I was dealing with on a conscious basis. And then as I started to see more and more clients come in, I ended up becoming gluten-free not from celiac disease, but from a different way. And so it was like I had all this knowledge and it came to me when I needed it. So I thought that was really cool.

Emily: I love that. You know what? That reminds me of a couple of things. Number one, how fast start you go gets the best of us because that thought of like, Well, what if I forget it? It was supposed to be important.

I’m not going, well, that’s just like your ego saying, no, you’re not good enough. Or it’s I actually love what you’re saying because when we are in the dream, say it is our subconscious. And so of course, we of course are going to have that card in in the back pocket somewhere because it is our subconscious, It’s not the conscious mind that’s running the show, but our subconscious mind is what manifests. And so I love that you said that.

And it also brought me back to an astral travel years ago where I was a shapeshifter and I was being chased. And then my thought was, we’ll just shapeshift past this board like it was like a rock wall. And I was being like, it was I was cornered. It was like I was dead was imminent. And I just heard, like, we’ll just shapeshift. And so I shapeshifted and I got away and I was like, huh?

And then I realized kind of what I teach to entrepreneurs is this shape-shifting of, you know, going from struggling as a healer practitioner, coach and shapeshifting into the highest self. The version of you that is on that path, that is trusting themselves, that is confident. And I was like, Oh, I think I can apply this sort of knowledge-based or from this dream into this life. And I mean, I did remember, but it’s like. It was a crazy experience.

Whitney: It does sound like a wild experience, but what a beautiful message. I love what you just said, and I think that’s going to resonate with so many people listening to of how they can shapeshift in their own lives and transform. It’s really beautiful, astral travel is amazing, but it does really kind of throw you through this loop where it’s like, what was that that I just saw sometimes? But it’s really good.

Emily: But also what you said of like just asking to remember too, is like, it’s like the simplest things in it. Even when we’re going to get into talking more about guides, it’s like, Well, what if there was a guide for that? You know, like there’s an app for that. Like there’s a guide for that. Why not just ask the guide for that? Oh, right. That too. I could do that.

Whitney: Absolutely. Yeah. And so talk to your teacher guide if you’re listening and they’ll be more about it what you said. Yes.

Emily: All right. So this is a fun one about Spirit Guides, whether it’s an animal ancestor or a collective. When they express their messages in the form of numbers, feathers, coins and other signs. Do each of them have, like, their own signature sign that they’re leaving, where the messages are coming from so that we can like, can we send gratitude like, Hey, is this the guy that comes with coins? Is this the one that comes with feathers? And if so, she’s also asking like a two-parter, like, can I send a thank you note?

Whitney: I love that. Yes. Start with the last one first, please say thank you to your spirit guides. That’s definitely one thing that I always talk about with talking to your guides. It’s like if you had an assistant or even your family or friends and you never express gratitude or say thank you to your people that are helping you, it just wouldn’t be a great rapport. So you also say thank you.

However, some spirit guides and loved ones definitely have like this calling card work. So they’ll say, hey, it’s, you know, this is what I like to send you. I like to send you feathers or I like to send you coins. What I’ve noticed is that normally I’ve seen spirits who more show up or identify as male figures will send coins. It’s not all that way, but it’s just I’ve noticed this in readings, and generally speaking, they’ll be more of like a grandfather kind of energy that comes through.

And I’ve also noticed joy guides will tend to send flowers and they really like that vibrancy. And then it’s very different. So what I would recommend that you do is talk to your spiritual team, your spirit guides, and say, you know, I really love these signs. This is amazing. I would love to have a little bit more information, a little bit more detail of which guide ascending this. And the beauty, though, too, is that regardless if you know which guide or which spirit is sitting in these messages, you’re still getting them, which is really beautiful. It’s just it’s just it’s like an amazing rapport. But you can always just further get the conversation.

Just like if I were talking to Emily and I wanted to know more about her life or, Hey, you’re sending me these messages. Is this you know, I know it’s her because it’s from her name, but you just want to really make sure, Hey, is this so-and-so? And you could say, I’d love to receive a validation. So hopefully that helps answer the question.

Emily: Yeah. And of course, I’m going back to a reel that I made about. But can you send a signer sign? You know, I just need a signer sign. And I think that’s also the loop that, like spiritual folks like us get into where, you know, we got the confirmation, we got the sign, we got the direction, we pulled the card, we tested our pendulum. We got like, I don’t know, all the different green lights that we could get. And then we were still like, but where? How do I know it came from this guide? It’s like, can you just take the great message with love and gratitude and just be like, hey, whoever sent this, you’re awesome. Thank you. More of this, please. Like, move on. I think we can stay in this place of indecision.

Whitney: Yes.

Emily: And hold ourselves in this pattern. And, you know, I’m offering this program right now, and I’ve been having all these conversations with folks, and somebody sent me a DM, and they’re like, I’m really interested. So I’m like, hey, did you have questions? Like, I’m happy to help. I have a, you know, some open calls, too, if you want. And she’s like, yeah, I’m just going to surrender that. Hopefully, something will happen. And I wrote back, I said, okay, that sounds good. You can also just say, No, that’s totally okay. I want you to be able to just say no too. And she came back at me like at me saying, you know, you’re assuming that I’m making excuses, you know? And I said, No, I’m not assuming anything. I’m just giving you permission because a lot of people have trouble just saying no. Whether they think that they’re hurting my feelings or that they themselves don’t know how to say no, you know, in their life, like, life just kind of happens.

I don’t know if you’re a new girl fan, but Winston doesn’t make decisions and they use them all the time about like, when was the last time you actually made a decision? It’s like, Oh, because I played basketball. No, you didn’t. You were an infant and they just gave you a basketball. You didn’t make a decision to play.

So, you know, I think part of this is like, we can there’s a time to surrender to guidance. There’s a time to open up to direction. And you also need to take action. And so, you know, if you are getting signs like does it really matter who the guide is? Like, you got the sign, you got the confirmation, you can feel it, you can know and then move on. I guess I’m just kind of. I don’t know what the word is. I don’t want to say impatient, but I’m just like a go, go, go, go, go! Like a little energizer bunny sometimes. So, like… 🙂 I think that we can…

Whitney: Agree we stay too much sometimes in wanting to know the details. And then I think it kind of produces this response in us where it’s like, there’s always more for me to work on and I have to get it perfect. Whereas sure, we all have stuff to work on, but we don’t have to get it perfect.

And knowing that there they, there I think is really the most important step and just dividing the conversation to if it happens, it happens and you can talk to your guys every day and it’s been four confirmations, but I wouldn’t stay on that too much.

I was just having a conversation with a student, it’s on my membership. And she was really going down that rabbit hole of signs, signs, sig,n some things and she’s like, what is it all mean? Like, it doesn’t have to mean all the things. It really doesn’t. It’s nice when you get a confirmation, but sometimes, you know, a bottle of water is just a bottle of water. And sometimes we don’t need to know the meaning of the universe, you know, within that sign that we got. So I know you were like.

Emily: I am dying because, like, you probably get it too, people are like, Oh my gosh, the currency exchange has changed. Is that a sign that I shouldn’t be in your program? You’re like, gosh! I love it. It’s not everything is a sign. Sometimes it’s just a water bottle. Put that in a quote card. So. This is why I also love you, Whitney, because you’re so grounded. And, you know, you can laugh at these things, too, and help people so much, connecting with their guides. And let’s be practical.

I love this next question from Janelle. She says, “Do spirit guides who work with me specifically communicate with the guides of my kids and spouse.” And part two is, “the spirit guides communicate with other spirit guides”?

Whitney: Oh, that’s such a great question. I would try to contain the answer and through a certain amount of minutes.

Emily: Do you have 90?

Whitney: I know, right? So I just want to start with the concept of do you actually have your spirit guides and then your children, your spouse, other people, the family, they have their spirit guides as well. And what’s really great is that you can ask your spirit guides to communicate with their spirit guides, and then that helps the family, that helps to get on the same page.

So this is especially helpful when you’re having to have a tough conversation with somebody or you’re not on the same page like you’re just in an argument or you’re trying to convey to your child something and they’re not listening. So you can talk to your spirit guides and say, you know, I really would like to help them understand, you know, X, Y, Z of what I’m saying. And then you can say, you know, what would be the best right next step for me in this conversation or to have the highest and the best outcome.

And the great news is that your spirit guides are ethical, so they’re not going to like you can’t know all the details of your, let’s say, daughter’s life, especially if she’s an adult. But as a child, it’s a little different where you get to know a little bit more and you can start to work with that team, which is really great. So your spirit guides normally will just talk to the spirit guides of whoever that is, because your spirit guides are assigned specifically to you, which is really great. When I realized that, I felt so much comfort and knowing, Oh, I’ve got a team, wait a minute, they specialize in Whitney, with her life, and with her business. And hey, they’re dedicated just to me, which I think is really, really great. So that’s my answer. I think I contained it down.

Emily: I think so. You did great. And the second part is “Do they communicate with other guides”? And I would say yes, because whenever I’m working with clients one on one, I always feel the connection of my guides talking to their guides and then like amongst themselves, then relaying the info to me to relay to my clients. Does that kind of how you feel?

Whitney: Oh, 100%. That’s mediumship. So whenever I teach mediumship, it’s my guides talking to the guides of the client. They, they kind of negotiate. You know what I can know? They come back, they give it to me and it comes out of my mouth and then that’s mediumship. So absolutely, they talk to other guides because sometimes people have this assumption that mediums, intuitive, or a psychic or whatever, we’ll just kind of tune into your energy. Like they’re just going to look at you and know all your life. And while some people might do that and please don’t, they’re listening. Just because you have that ability, ability, please don’t just go around, try to tune into everybody. That’s again, like the ethical.

Emily: I know, like all the flashing….

Whitney: Well, yeah. Like, don’t do that. And some by the way, you know, I live in Sedona. I’ve actually had some people come up off the street and just give me a reading without my permission. And I was like, no.

Emily: Can I pause you there to talk about that?, for a second because that’s happened to me as well. So I want to talk about that. So first of all, like me and Whitney are kind of emoting is like it’s completely unethical to do that. I always thought people could like, see through me, like I was transparent. It’s not ethical. So if you are somebody who has that ability or your training to do that, you need to ask the permission of the other person. Similarly, like if you’re going into Akashic Records and you’re like, let me go digging around my kids stuff and my boyfriend’s things like, no, it’s you’re going to get blocked. Most likely you’re not going to see anything, but it’s completely unethical and there is karma. So there’s that. But if people do come up to you without your permission to give you a message, you have the right to say, No, thank you.

And so I had somebody come to me at a conference, last conference I went to, somebody was like, I’ve been having this this thing. And she’s like, I just realized you’re the thing I have to share this message with. And she shared this message and I was like. Why? Like, it was just a little a little weird. And I talked to a friend who was also there, and she goes, did you give her your permission to give you that message and to tap into your energy? I said, no. She goes, Yeah, do you do that to people? I said, Oh God, no. She goes, Yeah. So consider the message invalid and void. Like that’s basically. And I was like, Oh, that is such a good point. And, and so I want to give you all permission to say No, thank you.

If somebody is like, I have a message because it’s really sexy, it’s really appealing, you’re like, Oh, someone’s going to tell me something I don’t know. And it’s really appealing, but it’s also completely unethical. So how is that for you to receive that?

Whitney: How awful. No, anytime I teach mediumship, I say you ask for permission every time. So this person in Sedona that came up to me, my husband was with me, I’m going to tell you. So he’s four years older than I am, but I’ve always looked older when I was younger, and he’s always looked like he’s ten years younger than his age. So the person that came out started giving a message and then said, Your son.

Emily: Oh Jesus.

Whitey: And I was like. Okay, obviously you’re not tuned in here, but I’ll go, no, no, thank you Yeah, right.

Emily: Oh, oh my gosh.

Whitney: So much so that when he turned 40 years ago, I put on his t-shirt. I said, My wife is four years younger than me. And if you say that I look younger than her, she will hurt you.

Emily: It’s a very specific T-shirt.

Whitney: Right? Very specific T-shirt.

Emily: No, I didn’t mean to interrupt you. Were you going to share something about communicate with other spirit guides that?

Whitney: Oh, well, yes. The answer is yes. So you talk to your spirit guides and they can talk to the spirit guides of whomever. And this is really helpful, especially when you are needing to kind of work through something together, but it’s not something that you would just do. Like Emily was saying, I want to know about so-and-so, what’s going over, what’s going on over there? Your spirit guides, first off, won’t get the information unless the Spirit guides of the other person give it to them. So that’s one thing. And you don’t want to just go digging around in people’s lives.

Emily: Yeah. Yeah. There was a final question that I wanted to ask, but now I’m missing it. It was around connecting with guides and your energy. I don’t know where did I just go?

Whitney: I might be moving the document.

Emily: How dare you? Here it is. I got it. “How can a spirit Guide help you remove an energy block?”

Whitney: Hmm. So good. So you can ask your spirit healer. So you’ve got different guides for so many different things in your lives. You’ve got guides for your business. You’ve got guides that help you with your personal life. You have a teacher guide that is so helpful for astral travel. So talk to your teacher guide. If you’re wanting to do more of that, have a protector guide and then you also have guides and specialists in healing. So one of the things that I would suggest just from my perspective is I would call on your spirit guide your spirit healer to help you release and remove an energy block. And whenever I’ve done that, I have felt this place of tingles, different sensations. I’ll feel some kind of energy shift like they’re working on me. And it’s always great to do this when you can relax. This can be specifically good right before bed, but also your guides can give you messages about what action steps you might need to take to remove the energy block as well.

So from my perspective, those are some things that you can do. But I do want to turn around the question around Emily, and she specializes in energy alignment. And so you got to listen to the podcast episode on my podcast to get the rest of the answer.

Emily: Oh, yeah, I have a juicy one and I want to share it on your podcast because I channeled a meditation that was an energy healing through your guides, and all these guides came in to work on us. And so I want to share a little bit more about that on your podcast.

So you guys head on over to Whitney’s podcast, which we don’t know what it’s going to be right now, but a message from the Spiritual Ambitious Podcast. There we go. Goodness, gracious. We’ll get it out there.

You know, it’s sometimes it’s hard to go from energy to like the 3D, so come on over to Spiritual Ambitious we will have it linked in the show notes. Or you can just search on your favorite listening platform to listen to my answer to that question and many more about energy alignment. Thank you, Whitney. And I can’t wait to talk to you in 5 seconds.

Whitney: I’ll see you soon.

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Welcome back to the Aligned & Unstoppable Podcast. I’m your host, Emily Aarons, and I have a very special episode for you, this week because normally we have podcasts come out every other Tuesday, but this is a Thursday episode, and for good reason. I have something very special for you.

For those of you who’ve been with me for a really long time, you may have participated in one of the most epic events that ever was. One of my very favorite events and probably the best event that I’ve ever created, which is called Intuition Week. So if you’re new around these parts, you’re like, well, what is she talking about? Sounds good. What’s Intuition Week?

I’m going to give you a little bit of the background on how Intuition Week became a thing. The evolution it’s gone through as well as why you want to sign up for it this week. And in the podcast show notes you are going to see a link to join. It’s and until April 23rd you can get 50% off. Intuition week is only $11. So if you missed the special, it’s okay. But if you happen to be hearing this on Thursday, hurry, get that spot. It’s only $5.55 for a limited time only!

And this is for like the people who’ve been there forever, who’ve done it multiple times. We want to reward you. We want to celebrate with you and say, come on back. We have not done Intuition Week for a year and a half and we could not be more excited to offer this special event again. So, link in the show notes –

Let’s get to the story. So what is Intuition Week and why do I care?, you’re asking. So Intuition Week is an opportunity to experience me – my work, my energy clearings live for an entire week, so the schedule is pretty intense. It’s a Monday, Wednesday, Friday – Energy Healing. We start Monday morning on May 15th. (I should have of double check my calendar :-D) on May 15th, on Monday, we start with what everybody wants a Money Block Clearing. In addition to the Money Block Clearing,  I also give you a challenge.

So it’s not just yeah, I feel amazing. It’s also it’s time to put this to play. And everybody loves the homework assignment from day one because they get money. Simply put, they get money. We have seen people, you know, earn hundreds of dollars, thousands of dollars, get unexpected checks in the mail, get refunds, get gift cards. We’ve had folks who said, well, they were expecting a child support payment for the last five years and it just happened to come in that day. Just an amazing story.

So the community that we have with Intuition Week is outstanding and obviously, it’s very celebratory and positive and uplifting from the day that we start. And so I deliver my energy work live right into the group. So when you join me, you’re going to get that. But also even if you’re on the other side of the planet and you won’t get it until the replay, the energy is programmed.

And so I’m channeling I don’t even know what I’m going to say until it comes out of my mouth. So the energy is program for everybody who’s registered. And even if you’re live or on the replay, the energy is still very potent. I mean, I’ve had people watch the replays of past Intuition Weeks, even years later, and go, Oh my God, was so good, which is why I want you to sign up for it again.

It’s an amazing opportunity for you to start getting into your intuition so you can stop second-guessing yourself. And primarily Intuition Week is for coaches, healers and leaders who want to start using your intuition to grow your business.

And the thing is, is that we follow other people’s formulas to do different things, which is fine, except if you’re somebody like me who, you know, you follow me else’s formula and it doesn’t exactly pan out the way that you expected. The results are subpar. Maybe it feels a little off. Maybe you don’t feel comfortable with whatever they’re telling you to do. It’s because it’s out of alignment.

And so what Intuition Week is helping you to do is get into your highest alignment so that you can use your intuition to be led in your business as well. So during the five-day live experience, you are going to learn how to, like I said, Clear Your Money Blocks.

Then we get into a live Q&A. You can literally ask me anything. It gets kind of wild and fun. I love the Q&A – is on Tuesdays and Thursdays because, you know, like everybody has a million questions like, what about Spirit Guides? What about it,  is there a Spirit guide or Angel for my business? What about my past loved one What happens when you die? Are chakras involved with your business? So like, the questions can be very broad and very specific and I’m going to answer all of them.

And we get into really fun conversations where people, you know, we can find limiting blocks and beliefs. And even just in the Q&A, people are having amazing experiences. There was a woman named Lilith who participated in one of the last Intuition Weeks, and she said, my spirit guides were hugging me and assisting me. That was from when we did our spirit team connection.

So the next thing that we do is I help you to tap into your own spirit team. So, your spirit guides can come in all forms, shapes and sizes. They can be plants and animals, angels, ancestors, past loved ones.

And so with this journey that we do on Wednesday, you get to really discover who is there to support you. And how can you harness this connection when times are tough, when you’re at your wit’s end, when you’re overthinking your over processing and just everything is going wrong, you will be able to forge this connection with one of your spirit guides so that you can always go back to this. So even past Intuition Week, participants can connect back to those guides that they first met during Intuition Week.

The other thing that, that does and, you know, clearing your money blocks, connecting with spirit guides, what that helps you to do is attract your soulmate client. So during the week we also have reported people have participants that I’m, I’m getting people finding me on social media, people are emailing me somebody wants to book one on ones with me and I haven’t ever had that happen.

So a lot unlocks, because your energy becomes so potent and so magical that it’s like you’re taking a drink out of the fire hose of, like, positive energy all week long. And so what that does for you is it gets you into your highest alignment and then it draws people in a very authentic and soulful way.

So, you know, and sometimes people come to me that like, you know, I’m afraid of putting myself out there because people are judging me. And in this week period, for Intuition Week, something shifts. And suddenly they realize and tap into their potential and realize I actually need to share my message because somebody out there needs me from a really loving place.

The next thing that we do, again – Tuesdays and Thursdays Q&A, and then on the Friday, which is always like the fan favorite, the best day ever, which is you’re connecting with your highest self. And not just, you know, thinking about your highest self, not just imagining your higher self, but deeply, energetically imprinting and integrating with your higher self.

And so what that looks like is while typically on all of the different days that we do this energy healing and people are having emotional releases and crying and and having like epiphanies and new ideas and feeling inspired and also just deeply relaxed and connected with themself.

And so when you connect with your higher self, I’m allowing you to go on your own journey. To see what your higher self has to say and what is what do they look like and how do they feel, how do they respond, how they react.

And then when you become embodied as your higher self, you all of a sudden are showing up more powerfully, more confidently, more poised, more trusting in yourself, like you are a different person, like the me who was talking to you, like the Emily, like I have my own problems, my own insecurities, my own setbacks. But when I’m connected and plugged in with my higher self and fully integrated and embodied, I show up powerfully. And so every time you know, I do my work, I’m in that state. And so we have breakthrough.

So somebody shared, her name is Jennifer Bryan. She said, “I absolutely loved it. The meditations were amazing. The energy was fantastic.”

Caralila Turner said, “Wow, I’ve done intuition week three times and each time has been great.”

So I want to talk about that.

So if you’re somebody who is a returning member to Intuition Week, not member but participant. The reason why you come back is really clear. Number one, you grow and evolve. So where you were a year and a half ago or further, you’re not that person anymore. And so likely what happens every time is that you’re going to start getting bigger, more profound, psychic or intuitive hits.

The next thing is because truly, you know, it’s been a while. And so your system could use that next refresh. And the biggest best ever reason is because, the Intuition Week community as well as like this energy I keep talking about, which I’m sure you can feel and sense just from me talking about, it is the most awesome outstanding like crazy, so-so good energy. So like why not?

It’s only $11. And again, if you get the deal now it’s only $5.55 for an entire week. Five days live training, energy healings, practices, homework. You get a workbook, again – you get a tracker, the community, you get it all access replay page. If you’re not on Facebook and you’re like, uh – can I still get the most of it? Yes, you can.

The replay is up very quickly after I’ve done the video. So it doesn’t matter if you’re in the right time zone or the wrong time zone or whatever you think the replay, the all-access replay page is available all week.

Obviously, we have all kinds of bonuses and surprise giveaways and specials. We’re going to do text messaging alerts and special keywords, and you’re also going to get a discount off of my Angels in Your Biz Oracle Card Deck. So you get a lot for a very little investment.

You know, one of the things that I love to do is unite people together as well. And so I’ve also seen so many relationships founded just going through Intuition Week together where people like, wow, you’re like this, so am I.

And Intuition Week community is like nothing you’ve ever been a part of. And if you’re like me, I’m usually like the only woo-woo spiritual weirdo in the group. I’m like the resident psychic. And in this group, it’s not the case, everybody – from all walks of life coaches, healers, leaders and even people who are like, I am not that yet, but I would like to get into that. And so this is an amazing networking community. And so, you know, getting to meet like-minded people maybe collaborate, maybe do podcasts together. Maybe just share the space together and keep each other accountable. It’s really, really cool.

Tara Holliman said, “I really needed that. My energy was so off before the healing. Thank you so much. I really needed that.”

Alma Solana Burrell said, “You are amazing. I’m so grateful for your work and your teachings.”

And Delma Manrique says that “It was beautiful. Wow, I felt a lot of energy. I went from feeling like a 4 all the way up to a 9”.

So these are just some of the many testimonials that I receive from doing Intuition Week. Usually, like my team can’t keep track and keep up with the amount and the volume of praise and testimonials and people making money and making new connections and just like miraculous things happening all week long.

So I would love for you to join again. It’s half off until April 23rd, but even if you miss it, it’s only $11 to join.

So I want to give you a quick history of where Intuition Week came from, which was I channeled it. I’m sure you probably guessed it, but I channeled a number of years ago. I’ve done Intuition Weeks, five times.

Every single time I’ve done it, it just gets better. The first time I did it, it was seven days, then it was five days. We started to shift it into just three days because what I found was that, you know, like I said, it’s like taking a drink out of the water hose.

And if people are getting energy healing with me seven days in a row, usually it’s like a lot of energy and that’s great. And there’s also that integration period that needs to happen.

And so what we did is said, you know what, I think the more gentle kind our way to do this is a Monday, Wednesday, Friday schedule, and that has been the best ever. We’ve seen people who are able to get the healing Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and really integrate on Tuesday and Thursday and over the weekend and obviously the week after it’s over.

The other cool thing is that Intuition Week opens up the container for my Mastery & Ascension Membership. And Master & Ascension is literally the membership where I do live channeled energy healing. That’s the only sacred community online that you are able to receive master-level energy healing. And so Intuition Week is kind of like a taste of what it’s like to be a Mastery & Ascension member. So in Mastery & Ascension, I go live once a month. Plus you have actually twice a month. I take that back. I go like once a month to channel a message on the first of every month. And then on the 15th of every single month, you’re going to get card readings for the whole group.

However, in addition to that, you have over 200 energy healings, mini- master classes and things like spirit guides and angels and crystals and so many astral travel. Plus there’s replays from the past Intuition Week. So, you know, after Intuition Week is over. We put that into our membership portal so that they can have it on replay, plus some really incredible offers and opportunities. You get half off from different things that I do throughout the year as an M&A member. And you also get premier access to the folks who are trained to do what I do in the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training.

So there’s a ton of benefits, there’s a ton of energy healings, and there’s also access to simple things like the Reboot Meditation series, which is an 8 to 12-minute meditation that literally clears your whole system that you don’t have to stop doing what you’re doing to listen to it. There’s a ton of awesome benefits in M&A.

But I will say this Intuition Week, if you enjoy that, if you enjoyed me, if you enjoyed the energy clearings, if you enjoy the community, you’re absolutely going to love it inside of M&A.

So also because we’re opening the doors during Intuition Week, we’re going to have all kinds of really cool specials. So if you were a past member and you want to come back or you are a member and you want to upgrade, we’re going to have some really cool things offered that we’ve never offered before, some cool upgrades and just like really cool surprise bonuses and just prizes things along the way. So we’re gonna have a lot of fun.

So it is really my favorite thing to do because I get to just be me to share my gifts at a very, very low investment that is really open to basically anybody. You know, if you can pay 5 to $11, you can participate and get these master-level energy healings delivered to you every single day within the context of Intuition Week.

So I hope you enjoyed this week’s episode. I really hope I get to see you inside of Intuition Week May 15th through 19th. Limited time only. It is awesome. We haven’t done it for a year and a half. We’re bringing it back. It’s going to be better than ever, I know it.

So anyway, if you have any questions, let me know. Share it with a friend, is how you get in. All right, I’ll see you guys on the next episode and I hope to see you inside of Intuition week. Lots of love. Bye for now.

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Emily Aarons is a highly sought-after intuitive healer and business coach for coaches, healers, and leaders. She’s best known for clearing the energy to guide her clients out of survival mode and unlocking alignment, abundance, and exponential growth in their business. With over two decades of experience, Emily has honed her healing skills to create the first and only energy-based certification with a profit guarantee; the Integrated Energy Alignment training.

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This week you get a “two-fer”! Jeannie Spiro and I teamed up to bring you this dynamic conversation about selling.

I know the word “selling” can become triggering to entrepreneurs who have been struggling with this – which is why this conversation is so important that it needed two parts!

In Part 1, which you can find on Jeannie’s podcast here, we explored the energetics behind your offers and what can block them.

In this episode, we take the emotion out of your sales process and look at it more strategically so you can feel more confident in finding a way to sell that feels good for you. There’s no “one-size-fits-all” here!

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Emily: Hey friends. Welcome back to the Aligned & Unstoppable Podcast. I am joined by a very special guest, Jeannie Spiro. And if you don’t know, Jeannie and I are doing a two-part series.So, the first part about the energetics and your business was recorded on her podcast. And the second part, which is what you are here for right now, is here on mine. So, we’re going to be talking about sales, someone asking for the sale or not getting all the pieces, so we get those sales to come in.

And on her podcast, we got to talk about like energetically what’s going on, why are you blog, what’s going on with you? So, I definitely recommend you go check it out. We will have all the links right in the show notes for you and then, welcome Jeannie! Jeannie is a business coach. She is a speaker and she is my new friend, so please give her a warm welcome. And Jeannie, the name of your podcast as well, so they can come get it.

Jeannie: Absolutely. It’s a Midlife CEO Podcast, so thanks for having me.

Emily: You’re welcome. So, let’s start like, how did you become a business coach? And I know we got to chat a little before the recording of like the history in health insurance. Gosh, that was serious. Wow! You’ve gone in so many different directions, but I’m going to pass over the mic to you to give us your background.

Jeannie: Absolutely. Well, once again, thanks for having me here. And I’m so excited. And to talk about that energetics and business and sales and launching and then to go a little further here, it’s just so fun. We’re having some fun here.

But I want to say that really, I have to go back in time. I will go back, I had no idea what I want to do with my life, absolutely no idea whatsoever. And I ended up going to the University of San Francisco right after college. And when I got there, I thought, well, I still don’t know what I want to do, but here I am. And I remember for the first two years, I loved speech communication. I love studying people’s speech. I loved interpersonal skills, and I loved just kind of watching people’s energy in the sense of like when they get on stage and how they would perform. And also just like listening to communication and all of that. But I was extremely shy and I wasn’t really I didn’t know what I wanted to do with my life, and I didn’t know what skills I really had. But it was a really good observer of people.

And at some point during that process, I started to think, Well, I remember I had a speech impediment when I was young, and so maybe I should become a speech therapist. So I got it in my head, follow my intuition right back to study that over at the University of Rhode Island. And I got there and I realized I was not a good student in science. And I didn’t really like speech therapy. What I still loved was communication. I still loved like I loved trying to figure out like how to get better at it and all of that. So anyway, my first class in college was a business communications class. Like when I was really like, really starting to see that maybe I could do something with this. And I thought business, this would be really interesting, but I didn’t even know what I would do. And I didn’t get marketing. I hadn’t didn’t have anything other than speech communication.

So I took my first job, which was as a tour guide, and I got good at speaking. And then I took my actual first official job, which was working for a health insurance company. And I was like, I don’t like this, but I’m doing it because I have to make money. And the long and short of it was for a long time I didn’t know what I wanted to do. I just knew that I was pretty good at speaking and I was pretty good at reading people. And I didn’t mind getting on stage. I didn’t mind sharing a message. I didn’t mind being uncomfortable in front of other people and eventually learned how to sell. And I learned how to sell one on one and one-too-many and all of that. And so I started building on my business skills throughout my career, which I fell into. And I didn’t even really want to be in because, again, I didn’t know what I wanted to be when I grew up and I just did it. And I ended up going to work for an entrepreneur who ran a small company. And it was my first taste of entrepreneurship, like really, truly like running a small business. And I thought, Huh, wonder if I could do this for myself. And so in about, so about 2010, I started my first business and it was coaching.

And I just really thought, you know what? What if I could take all these skills like the speaking, the sales skills, what I was learning with working with small businesses, and all the back-end stuff that I knew about some of the product development work that I was doing and some of the jobs and training and negotiating, I was like, I could teach other women what I know. So I naively started an online business in 2010 alongside the job. And it grew and grew and grew. And the thing that I figured was easiest for me was selling like I didn’t have any problem. Everybody kept complaining, like, I don’t know why I can’t get clients. And I’m like, I don’t know why I can, but I could. And so it blossomed and blossomed until finally in 2013, I was there’s a long story to it. But ultimately I ended up making the leap. And then the first year I was out on my own, I truly did not know how to run my business without having a job, so I had to figure out how to make the business succeed. And it took me about a year, year, a little over a year. And once I figured out what to do, I never looked back. So that’s a long story of it.

But I sort of like to think of myself as this example of a woman who was like, I figured it out at midlife. I didn’t know what I wanted to do most of my life, but I started following these things that I was good at and piecing it all together and said, How can I blend it together in a business doing something that I love and get to do it? What I think is this really rich chapter of my life. So that’s why I have the Midlife CEO.

Emily: I love that story. And you know, you also share with me that you had been doing speaking events as your sort of vehicle to sign other programs. And then when everything sort of shut down during the pandemic, you had to make a serious shift. So I think and I was saying on your podcast that, you know, a lot of people would take that and say, well, I guess I can’t do this business anymore. But you didn’t. You took that, you were inspired by that. I’m sure you had to do a lot of introspection and in our work to really innovate. What else can I do with this?

And I know from your story is that you realize that it can’t just be this one thing. It can’t just be this one funnel that brings people in this one way. We have to create other opportunities that maybe we can still have this thing, but there can be other things that are going on as well. So how did that decision come about for you when you had been speaking on stages and that was your jam for so long?

Jeannie: It was. And there were a few other things that I would also say I did sell in other ways. Obviously through sales conversations or discovery calls, I was not nearly as effective at selling by email. In fact, the mutual friend that we have, Sage Polaris. I had hired her and I said, can you please help me with enrolling more people from my mailing list to come to my live event? Because this is an area that I have not really done as well with.

But you have to kind of remember my experience was, I was always good at selling 1 to 1. I had to sell and have long-term relationships with people and eventually sell them. When I was working in health insurance. I could sell from the stage, I could do all of those things. But one area that I wasn’t really good at was selling by email or copy. And so I loved using speaking mean events as one strategy to fill my programs and it became my thing. It was good, it was easy. I loved doing it. I enjoyed it. It was an experience and it was like the one thing I relied on.

And so fortunately I had the experience before the pandemic of working with Sage, and she helped me find my voice and helped me figure out how to learn how to sell through email. And I was doing it like by event that year I sold spots into my program, which was like, oh my God, one of my program into my event. And I was like, this is working. Like, wow, I can do this too. And then we had the pandemic. I couldn’t have live events. I could still have conversations with people, and I still had a really healthy email list. And it was like, all right, what am I going to do now? And that’s where I leaned into that. I also leaned into some of the other strategies that I’d already been using, which were more simple sales strategies, like without even using sales pages. And I just thought, all right, I’m going to use all these different other methods to figure out a combination of sales approaches that I can use in my business without events. And that’s what 2020 taught me, that I didn’t have to have an event to be able to keep enrolling people into my coaching programs and masterminds.

Emily: Yeah, and I want to just encourage people to hear what you’re also saying, which is, hey, I wasn’t great at selling in this one way, so I hired somebody to help me to get better at the thing versus saying, Oh, well, I’m terrible at social media, I’m terrible at email marketing and then therefore I can’t use it, period, done.

You went and found a solution. And also you’re seeing that there is so many different ways that you can get. Innovative and creative and have a little more fun with it. It doesn’t have to just be this one way and you’re using these new skill sets to develop into other things. So, you know, I think that we have to use as an entrepreneur. We have to have that skill to be able to go, okay, well, I’m not good at this, but I can do that. How can I strengthen this or hire someone to help me with this? So to fill that little area for me, it’s really smart.

Jeannie: Thank you. And I really realized at that point for myself was I, I wanted to develop an area not only for… you know, for the success of myself. It was like, how can I learn something else in my business I don’t already know how to deal?

Maybe I could get good at writing copy. Maybe I could use this strategy to be able to enroll people into my coaching programs with one or two emails as opposed to a massive launch. And so became this whole idea of what’s possible as opposed to, Oh, I can’t do that, or I only did that. I think the thing that we can do as entrepreneurs and you said this too, is how can we go stretch a little bit beyond what where our comfort zone is and be innovative and do some things that might be a little bit out of our comfort zone so that we can achieve what we want. It’s not being afraid to try.

Emily: Yeah, I agree. So you are obviously a master at sales and you love sales and you know, whether it is one on one, whether it’s a connection call, whether it’s a live event, whether it’s an email, you got a pretty good handle for things. So people come to you, for help, for advice when things are not looking so great for them.

So I know, you know, my audience, they’re all, you know, coaches and healers and leaders and female entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs who might get stuck with sales. And, you know, there is definitely areas where we’ve had great podcast episodes on different techniques or talking about maybe the sale problem isn’t the sale problem, but it’s something else. So what do you see the most commonly coming up to you like with your client tell? What is the number one thing that people come to you for when they get stuck and they’re not making the sales that they desire?

Jeannie: Oh, okay. So a few things happen, so I’m going to talk about it from the person who’s got something that they’re selling already or has sold.

Usually what happens is they’ve sold it a couple of times. So let’s just take that example, someone who’s got something that they’ve created and they’re passionate about and they’re selling it. And maybe one or two sales have come in and they’re like, Great, I’ve validated this offer. And I’m like, Yes, you have. The problem oftentimes as they come to me and they’ll say, I don’t know how to bring more people into this. I don’t know what strategies to use to bring more people into this program. And I’m stuck. And what’s the best approach to take that’s going to work for me?

And there’s a variety of choices. And so what happens oftentimes is they’ll try like all these different things, and then they get frustrated because they’ll say, Oh, I didn’t get more or this didn’t work, or I still don’t feel like I like this approach. And so some people will also come to me and say, well, I’ve tried to sell by selling from the stage and I don’t want to have another event. So what’s an alternative to keep enrolling more people into a program that I have or a program that I have that I only have a few people in and I’d like to have more. What are my alternatives?

I don’t want to do this anymore or this didn’t feel like it worked. And I’m going to say I’m using the word feel. It didn’t necessarily feel good to me or I didn’t enjoy it. So I really like to work with my clients in that situation to find what works for them that they like. That’s going to be enjoyable for them to do. That’s not going to be a grind because truthfully, we can do things that like I can tell you right now, Emily, go out and have a live event and you’ll be like, there’s absolutely no way I ever want to do that. And I’ve said, that’s the only way of you doing it. And you’re like, I don’t want to do it. You’d say you do it, but regrettingly, right? But your heart’s not in it.

But if I said to you, go ahead and launch your certification program, get that out there and do it through a series of, you know, masterclasses or webinars or something like that I can do. And then I’m like, great. Like it’s just like energetically what can you connect with? So a lot of times it’s people will come to me, they’re like, I don’t know what the right strategy is. It’s going to work for me. Other people will come to me and they’ll say, I’ve tried everything and this is still not. Working and I don’t know what’s going on. And oftentimes I find is it’s just unpacking all the information because a lot of people who are online already, it’s not like we just roll out of bed today and we’re like, well, we’re going to have we’re going to launch this.

We’ve been learning for a little while and we’re overwhelmed with strategy. And so then what I’m doing is helping them create the right strategy that’s going to work for them and then a process to get to what’s going to help them live, launch it, and then selling it if they want to, on-demand or not on demand. But, you know, through more of an evergreen process. Yeah, but it’s it’s really finding what works for them is sort of the first part of all of this.

Emily: Yeah. And it really is individual because some people you know, are really great storytellers and email they love to write in their emails are well received versus some people maybe are prefer to be on the stage or prefer to have an event or maybe kind of a webinar or something else that you may have to go with, what their strengths are, what they’re more naturally inclined. What would you say to somebody who’s not had any experience with any of those things ever before in their whole life? And they’re like, What do I do? How do I tell my thing?

Jeannie: Yeah. So the first thing that I always want to think about is I like people to learn how to sell 1 to 1 first.

Emily: Yes, I will do that. I’m glad you say that, too.

Jeannie: Yes

Emily: Before you can open up to like a gazillion people, I feel…

Jeannie: Right! So if you can’t sell 1 to 1, you can’t sell one too many. And so oftentimes what happens is if someone is not selling anything at all, I will challenge them to talk to as many people as they possibly can and tell people it’s more like I have this offer. And who do you know who might need this. And be in conversation and practice conversation for about a week and they’ll resist it, but then they’ll come back to me like I’m just getting good at talking about it. I’m like, that’s exactly what I want you to do first because you probably don’t have the language around your offer, right?

And you’re not expressing the benefits, you’re not expressing the outcome, you’re not expressing what truly can happen, the transformation that can happen from this, the more you talk about it. The better you get at expressing it. And then you also want to do it on video. And that’s what I’ll tell people. Get on Zoom and watch people and you can see if people are connecting. Like if I said to you today, Emily,  I want you to buy a brand new moped and it is red and it is going to go fast. You’d be like what are you…What? Like what? Why do I need a moped? It’s like. But I feel like I’m using it as a kind of silly example.

But that’s sometimes what happens. It’s like how our brains absorb it, and we’re like, I don’t know what you’re saying. I don’t know what you’re. What is this that you’re offering? It sounds like it could be working. But what happens is oftentimes in sales, I see it like this is it’s almost like you’re speaking two different languages and the person can’t even understand what you’re saying. So when you’re having a hard time selling something at all, I always go back to that simple exercise is like, is this clear? Is what you’re offering makes sense to somebody else? And then the other simple thing is would you buy your own offer? Like if you looked at your copy and you looked what this is? And I’m like, truly, would you put money down on this and take yourself out of like that, wanting it to happen and say, does this convince you to buy that?

Emily: Yes.

Jeannie: So what I often will do is I end up kind of funny in the way I do this. But when people come to me and they say, I can’t sell this offer, I imagine that I’m a buyer immediately. I’m imagining that whatever it is they’re selling to me. And I look at it like, would I buy this? And I will tell them I will not buy this or I will buy this and here’s why, or here’s what you need to tell me in order for me to buy this.

So immediately, when I’m working with clients, will imagine that whatever they have to sell is something that I might want, but they can’t. They’re not convincing me that I need it and I need to work with them on convincing me or explaining to me why they should.

Emily: Yeah

Jeannie: It’s usually not the features, although there can be some massaging around it. So there’s a few things though.

Emily: Yeah. And it’s so funny. So would you buy is a great thing to ask and I think people do get caught up in you know their thing that they created they know the most about. But sometimes the simplest thing is like, well, is it like a live thing or is it like a recorded thing, is it a course, is it a book? Like we actually as a consumer have no idea what the heck you’re explaining and talking about. You and your own mind have this whole vision, but like you haven’t actually articulated what the thing is that you are selling.

Jeannie: Yes

Emily: And, you know, I think that can get really complicated because we do live in a time where a course could be a place that you go to a class in a classroom. It could also be an online course that is taught live, that you have to take quizzes. It could also be something that you just sign up for you can do at your own leisure. So like, which one is it? How, how do I digest that? And, sometimes I can’t articulate that clearly enough. And I think this goes back to like getting people to help you with the things that you’re not very good at.

I always like to create whatever the sales page or the offer is and flush it out with my team. And then after I flush it out my team, we’ve kind of got the wheels in motion. I’ll reach out to some of my friends and say, could you just take a look at this? And like, where do I have holes and gaps and questions? Do you have what comes up for you?

And even to go back to the conversation about number one, like just talk to people there, I think there’s this like, I don’t know where the rumor started, but like people who sell well, like people assume that they just like, open their mouth and then people just throw money at them. And I always go through a launch process, which is I’d teach people and to say, like, what conversations did you have? Who did you talk to? What was the result of that conversation? And I can’t tell you how many conversations I have whenever there is an enrollment are open period. Sometimes what people think a sales conversation is, is “Hey, Jeannie, I have a thing. Do you want to buy it? Okay, No, alright, bye.” And they didn’t want to buy it.

Jeannie: I know, I know.

Emily: It’s not a sales conversation the way that I would have.

Jeannie: Or they think it’s like a consultation conversation/coaching session or whatever it might be. And it’s like, no, no, no, no, wait a minute. You just that’s not the point of this thing. It’s not like strategy in here or coaching in here.

Emily: Right.

Jeannie: I do want to say something else that I do that I think is another practice that I love even before using a sales page. Because I also work the same way. Like once I get it out of my head and then I see it and I see the copy and it’s there, like I think we’re both seasoned enough that we can go and look at and be like, Oh, I see what’s missing, or we know who to ask to say what’s missing that I haven’t communicated.

But oftentimes what I’ll do is I have my clients put together a very small PowerPoint presentation and I’ll ask them if they’re asking like, Do we have the basic points in this very small PowerPoint presentation that you could pitch this offer to someone in a PowerPoint. And if I gave you six slides and you put your information on these six slides and you had to sell through this process, could you do it? And everyone’s like, Oh my gosh, no, I couldn’t possibly do that. I’m like, Yeah, you can. You basically need to have one slide that’s going to tell what this program is, who this is for, what this is about, right? And so I walk them through this really simple process. And I and what I end up doing is I review they pitch to me, you know, loom video, and then I review it and I say, this is what you’re missing. This is what you’re missing. This is how to refine it. And so I’ll just take whatever offer it is and I simplify it, and I just work them through this process to see how they can improve selling it to me and then going out to someone that they know and then selling it to them.

And usually we have people who are interested in what we’ve got to offer already and then presenting it to them without a big song and dance and all of that. But like, hey, I’ve created something, would you be willing to watch this? And it’s really, really effective. My clients who do this, who are struggling to get to struggling to sell or sell something, it’s a little bit different than someone who’s got like a sales strategy problem, right? It’s like, how do I get the thing selling? I kind of go back to basics with it.

Emily: Yeah. And you mentioned earlier that you sometimes have people who come to you and you say, is this a like a people problem like, you have more leads coming in or is this a strategy problem? And that’s a really interesting way to discern what is the problem here. So do you find that those are kind of like the two branches that you see the most?

Jeannie: Yeah, Oftentimes. Oftentimes. So I was speaking with a client today and she has this amazing program. And I know that it’s validated because she’s got a lot of people who bought it. And so I’ll ask the simple question like, have you had any sales conversations or discovery calls? She’s like, I’ve only had a few. I’m like, okay. And so have you added anybody to your mailing list lately, or have you been out speaking lately? Or have you connected with more people who know about your work?

No. And I’m like, okay, so the same people are seeing the same offer over and over and over again. You need… You don’t have enough leads, so it’s time to expand who knows about this offer? You’ve got to bring more people into it.

Now you can spend all the time you want in trying to convince the same people on your mailing list what you’re doing. But if you’re not bringing more people onto your list and I think this is just basic math, if you’re not doing it, you’re not you don’t have new people knowing about it. So I, I can tell oftentimes when there’s a problem with someone sort of, but this often happens when someone changes their program and switches the price or their features in it, they sometimes run into a sales program on something that they’ve or sales problem and something that had been selling before, because sometimes they get in their head or right, like they’re like, Oh no, I can’t sell this anymore. It’s now too expensive.

And I’m like, Yes, you can. Let’s get we got to work through it. It’s an amazing offer. You’ve changed it to optimize it. Now let’s move you back into conversation around it. You might not have as many yeses, but we change in some purpose. And so sometimes I have to go back to look at what’s shifted in your sales process or in the way you’re pitching or making your offer. I get really analytical about the whole thing.

Emily: I really like that.

Well, and this is something that comes up a lot in my IEA Certification, the Integrated Energy Alignment Certification, because, you know, we are bringing in people into the program who are either coaches or healers or they aspire to have a new career doing this work, and we’re training them from the energetics to the business side of it.

And part of the tagline is that we have a profit guarantee, and the reason why is because, we are encouraging them to start with free sessions and then we literally require them to begin charging money at a certain point in the program. And then a third time or a second time, I should say, then they have to increase their prices. And the reason we do that by design, because out there in the real world, in your business, you likely should be increasing your prices from time to time. And when you increase your prices, there’s a huge energetic opening that comes in as well.

And so for folks like me who do energy work, what you see happening is that you’re serving at a certain level and maybe, let’s say it’s energetic work that you’re doing because that’s what I do. And when you feel that nudge to increase your prices, let’s say you listen to it because you’re smart and you listen to that nudge and you increase your prices and then you go, Oh, I’m a little bit worried. I don’t know. But then you sell it. What instantly happens in that session is you’re like, Oh my gosh, how did I become so open? I’m picking up on ten times more energy. The energy is moving.

My clients are getting better results through the work that I’m giving them in a short amount of time. They’re coming back more. They’re sending more referrals like, Whoa, I should have probably increased my prices sooner.

Jeannie: That’s right.

Emily: That’s what happens at the end of it. But at the beginning of it, when you go from I’m doing a free thing to now I’m doing a paid thing, we always see resistance in our students and it’s just that you’re selling the same thing on this side and on this side, but on this side. Now all of a sudden, there’s an energetic exchange of money.

Jeannie: Exactly. Yeah.

Emily: And I love it. I get so lit up about these conversations because when you’re doing transformational work, you’re doing something that can be esoteric and in tangible. And so from the very beginning, with their practice sessions and throughout, you’re really getting into the nitty-gritty of what was it like before and after your session? What would that transformation you have now, 30 people you’ve worked on? What are the common threads? Why are they all coming to you?

And then we’ve had students who said like, like she’s a forensic scientist, she’s not from the healing field at all. And she started to notice people who came to her were stuck in perfectionism and they were needing to come back into themselves and start to be kinder and gentler to themselves. And through her work, she was able to help them to address their perfectionism and to be more gentle and kind with themselves. And so it’s like, that’s the transformation. You need to know who it is and what the problem is and what’s in it for them. Just tell me that’s all they want to know at the end of the day. Like, what am I going to get out of it?

Jeannie: It is exactly what they want. And you know what I think what you’re saying is so true. And also what I noticed with a lot of people is that they get so nervous and so attached to this. What are people going to say? And they’re going to say no.

And what happens is, is when you don’t have a lot of leads coming in and you’re you’re at a stage in your business where you’re trying to grow, all your eggs are in these baskets and it becomes so like you’re just like managing these eggs, making sure that they don’t break right, because you’re like, Am I going to have more eggs? Is the chicken I’m going to lay more eggs.

And so, like what I always like to look at it like is like, yes, you need to be looking at this as a it’s a multiple pronged process. It’s like you’re creating something. It’s amazing, which is one of the things I help my clients refine or create. Right?

And then you’re going to need to sell it. So you’re going to pick your sales strategy and then you’re going to need to bring more and more people in. So it’s not that you’re going to have only a few eggs in your basket, and if they all crack or you eat all of your eggs, then you’re not going to have more. But that’s what I know happens a lot, is like you’re afraid you’re not going to have more opportunities to and you do. And when you know that what you offer is something that’s transformational, that makes a big difference, that really can support other people, it’s kind of like, well, let me move into this. How can I get more people to know about my work? How can I get more people to be invited to be in this?

And I actually look at it, as it’s an opportunity to work with each other, right? It’s an invitation. And I, I don’t sit here like, ever forcing anyone to ever work with me. I’m like, this is an opportunity for us both to work together and have an experience together. And the experience that many of my clients get is an empowered experience on the other side, empowered to learn how to attract clients or learn how to sell their programs, create something incredible and to make money.

And so I know that I’m in a space when I go into a conversation or when I sell from the stage or whatever it is. I know I go into this ownership space and this empowered space of I’ve really gotten good at masterful what I’m doing. And I feel really confident that what I have I can transfer to somebody else. And yes, money is going to transfer in the process, but I get to give that person that opportunity to be able to be, you know, to step into another skill level. So that’s how I look at it now.

In the beginning, I certainly didn’t, but that’s what I want my clients to look at is like, What is it that you’re doing that you can move into empowering somebody else in what you know or what you do or support them within that transformation? Instead of it being, well, I do this and they’re going to give me money. It’s like, well, energetically, what are you going to be doing here? You’re exchanging something here.

Emily: Go slowly. And I mean, like I said, like more, more energy does come through when you are raising your rates.

And the other thing that you mentioned is that people kind of look at, well, what if people don’t buy? What if people don’t buy? What if they can’t afford it? And I also like to look the other side of that coin. And I know for myself, I don’t know how you feel about this, but if there are certain things that I would like to have, let’s say it’s a business coach. Well, if you are $20 for two months of coaching support, I’m going to presume that you’re terrible if it’s $20 for two months of support. That’s a very low amount of money.

Jeannie: What does that saying?

Emily: It’s saying, you’re probably not going to be that good. And I look at it, too, like we have these chain massage places that you can have a subscription membership for like $39 a month. Well, I know what I’m getting. I’m getting a brand new student who’s out of, you know, just out of school who’s not really so good with what they’re doing. So they’re kind of getting the hang of it, but I am getting a backrub, so I’ve got that going for me.

However, at this point, I am only interested in working with people who are highly skilled, highly intuitive, can hold an energetic space, can help to transmute some of the energy and the stress. They might also be like experts in various modalities, and I am more than happy to pay a premium to receive the best session. And so what we’re discounting when we’re only looking at how many people can afford us is we’re discounting people who are saying, I want to pay a premium for a VIP experience. I’m wanting to pay a premium so that I can get my best results faster. I want to work with you one on one so that I can get the most and get off into that next transformation. I don’t want to be part of a group and pay less. I want number one the most. So I think we oftentimes don’t think of who is out there in that kind of regard as well.

Jeannie: We don’t. And another part of this I don’t want to forget is that we. Oh, now I am forgetting it.

But, what I really think is important is that sometimes what I notice for myself is when I am hiring someone, I am hiring an expert in something that they’re doing, and it’s because I can’t figure it out. So just like what you were saying and what I’ve come to realize is that I’m not a generalist in business coaching. I’m actually a specialist in what I’ve mastered and what I really know.

And so I’m really good at saying I am not your social media business coach, I am not your SEO business coach. I use relationship marketing and speaking strategies for lead generation. I’m like, If there’s anything that you want to do outside of that, I’m going to tell you, you know, go and do it. But when it comes to speaking, I know how to do it. When it comes to selling, I know what to do and how to do it.

I’m not a copywriter and I don’t write. So I’m really good at owning what I do. I’m really good at saying I’ve helped clients get to millions of dollars in their business, and I’ve helped clients make their first $10,000 per month and I’ve done everything in between and I can own that. And that is my truth. I can’t say I’ve taken anybody $2 billion and I would never would say that. And that’s not my zone of genius. Right?

And I think that that’s another thing is like own your genius on what you’re good at. And a lot of us can like say we’re really good at many different things, but when we narrow it down, it’s even better. It’s sweeter, because then, yes, we can say, I can claim that this is what I’m really great at. And that’s what I want people to really own it too, because then you get confidence in being able to sell what you’re doing and then you design programs that are like around your genius and you can be confident in that too.

Emily: Yeah, And I think, tracing back to the conversation you said about having lots of conversations with people. In those conversations that you have with people, they’re going to hear your message and your expertise and your genius in a certain way to them. It’s really nice to hear.

This is one of the first ways I learn how to remarket and rebrand myself from just doing hands-on therapy to opening up an online business and be able to do instead of 1 to 1 going to one for many and opening up that coaching opportunity is that I asked people, you know, if how they would describe my work to a friend and hearing other people describe your work sometimes is like they’re giving you the keywords like, Oh, I like that word. And when I first started, I was like, Oh, I’m giving people clarity. Oh, I’m a clarity coach? I think that’s something cool, right? Like and you’re just hearing the words coming back to you. Oh, you clear the blocks. Oh, you give me that next level. Okay?

Like you’re hearing the words coming back at you, which can also fuel how you speak of yourself. Because, you know, oftentimes, especially people who do esoteric things, Gary, I compare it to being like a mechanic and they’re like, I use tarot cards and I use Reiki and I used EFT and you’re like… They don’t speak that language, so stop talking about the tools you use, please, and think about it like a mechanic.

When we take our broken car into the service shop, you don’t go through the garage with them and go, why are you using that diagnostic tool? And what wrench, what size wrench do you think that’s the wrench that you should use? And then like, how long do you think it’s going to take? How many more miles can I like? No. You go sit in the waiting room with a good book and you just wait until it’s done and they go here your car is better now. And so that’s when you have to look at of like, are you trying to give them every single one of your stupid diagnostic tools that they don’t understand because they weren’t trained.

Jeannie: No

Emily: Or can you just say, like, here I can provide this resolve for you, Just take a step.

Jeannie: This actually brings up something kind of funny because for a long time, you know, I had a business. Obviously, you did, too. You were working in the offline world, right. And then bridging to the online world. And so people it’s kind of like, I don’t know, like in Harry Potter world, I think of like the muddled muggles. And so it’s like people didn’t understand when I moved in to have an online business like, what are you doing? And still to this day, people don’t get it.

And so I really narrowed it down after such a long time of like trying to hear my family members try to describe what I do. And I’m like, I help people make money, I help women make money, and they’re like, Wait, what? Online? Like, that’s all that’s what you do. And I’m like, Yes, that’s right. But that’s really ultimately, that’s what I’m doing. And for the longest time, I kept trying to say, Well, I teach this or I do this or I’m doing this. And they were like, I don’t get. Right. But we get so sucked into we have to have this beautiful copy, incredible language. And at the end of the day, I just narrowed it down like, I want to make sure that absolutely anybody understands the end of the day, really empowering women to make more money in their business.

And that’s so I can tell my husband, you can tell everybody. And it’s really kind of funny because now I actually my best friend said this to me recently. She’s like, my husband didn’t even know how to express what I was doing for the longest time. And I said, mine didn’t either. And now I just tell him, just tell everybody that I help people make money. And he’s like and I listened to him say it.

And, you know, that’s one of the things it’s like we overcomplicate. How we are explaining our offers. We overcomplicate saying who we are. We’re trying to be all fancy. And it’s like this copy language. Sometimes it’s almost like you can’t even hear it because. Or it sounds like everybody else.

Emily: Yeah.

Jeannie: And it really, at the end of the day, we want the results, we want the transformation, and we want an expert to help us through that.

Emily: So yeah. Exactly. So this is this has been a really fun conversation. Thank you for having it. I really love a good opportunity to talk about sales and I’m sure it would be super fun to have some case studies that we can like play with if people have a problem and go, okay, where are you blocked in your energy and what’s going on with you getting like we’re we can like tag team for fun one day. We could do like maybe like some sort of like a live together or something.

Jeannie: Yeah. An Instagram live sometime, they be awesome.

Emily: That’ll be really cool. Maybe we’ll do that when this episode comes out, right? So you can tell people how they can connect with you, work with you, and otherwise just love on you somewhere after this episode.

Jeannie: Thank you. Thank you. Well, a couple of ways.

So the first is that I invite everybody to go on over if they’re looking to generate more leads in their business. I love this one strategy, which is using speaking as a strategy online and offline to generate more leads in your business, because I think one too many marketing is great. So I have something called the ultimate Speaking Lead Generation Starter Guide and how you can start attracting leads in that way. It’s on my website, and you can learn more about what I do in my business at

I work with people in a couple of different ways. I help them design signature talks that allow them to convert more clients into their programs and services. And I have a program called Revenue Makers Mastermind to help women ultimately make more money in their businesses. And then I also work with individual clients and what I call like a Sales Optimizer Program. And I look at how we can optimize or sell and attach a sales strategy to help them sell what it is that they’re working to sell in their business. And that’s all over at

Emily: Great. Thank you so much.

Jeannie: Online, You might see me dabbling on Instagram.

Emily: All right. We’ve can connect with you there on your website site. Grab that guide and hey, reach out and say hello on Instagram. I always like to encourage my listeners, you guys know, take a screenshot, share your Instagram stories, tag me and your stories tag Jeannie. We’ll have all those links in the show notes.

Let us know what was the most like breakthrough AHA that you had from this episode? Did you learn something about what you need to start doing or maybe stop doing about your sales strategy? Do you realize this is a lead problem or is it like my offers kind of just not fleshed out enough kind of thing? I would love to hear from you always.

You know, it’s always interesting and inspiring when I see your DMS and your reviews on iTunes. Just knowing that we’ve made a positive impact in your life really makes the world of difference to me. I know me and Jeannie are avid podcast host. We love doing what we do, but you know, we do it for free. And the way that you can sort of give that reciprocity is those positive reviews. So make sure that you go over and listen to my episode on Jeannie’s podcast, say it again, Midlife?…

Jeannie: Midlife CEO Podcast.

Emily: Midlife CEO Podcast. Go download that episode, leave us a nice review over there and do the same over here on my podcast, Aligned & Unstoppable. Thank you so much for being here Jeannie, Thank you! Everyone who’s been listening have an awesome rest of your day and take good care.

Jeannie: Thank you.

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Emily: Listeners, warm welcome back to the podcast. I am so excited because you know what this is. It’s our anniversary. It’s my four years. How did I just do that? It’s like, you know, sometimes I have this, like out-of-body experiences where I just am such a dork, but that’s also who I am. So, thank you for accepting me.But it is our four-year anniversary of the Aligned and Unstoppable  Podcast. So let’s play confetti, noises, and loud sounds, and clapping sounds. And I wanted to do something special for our anniversary. And so I wanted to invite my dear friend and colleague Amanda Pickering, to be on the podcast with me today for a couple of reasons. One, I love and adore her and she’s magical in my business. She is a goddess, an angel. But also, I call you like a priestess, Priestess Queen, like all of the night, like all of the things she’s all of the things all wrapped into this beautiful package.

Well, since I’m talking to you, I’ll talk to you directly. Since I wanted to invite you to be on the podcast because I adore you and because your presence in my life and my business has made such a positive impact and you have truly seen me in like, the darkest times coming into the light. And I wanted to kind of share that with my listeners because I think we often see people, hey, somebody who has a podcast that has four years behind it and a business that’s $1,000,000 brand, and we make up these stories that our head that like she’s fine. I’m the only one who struggles with all of these things.

And so I really wanted to take this time on this episode to pull back the curtain and have a really honest heart-to-heart with the listeners.
And, for anybody who doesn’t know Amanda, now, you get to know her a little bit, a little bit more. So before we dive into that, I want to really go into what it is, like what are the elements, what are the ingredients that make a business successful?

And this is for you specifically, if you are a coach, a healer, or a leader and you have been struggling, maybe you’ve had a business for a while and just not as successful as you want, or you’re wanting to make a career change or you’re just like something is not clicking and you feel like you’re the problem. That might not necessarily be entirely true. So before we get into all of that, I want to first kind of spotlight you, Amanda, and let’s give the listeners a little bit of background besides you being like one of my favorite people of all time. Maybe there are some other things that they would really enjoy knowing about you too. So, kind of let’s paint the picture of, you know, your background and your experiences professionally and what got you here today and why.

Amanda: Yeah. Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me. This is very exciting and also one of my favorite people on the planet. So as you can probably hear from my accent, I’m from the U.K. And, well, I started my kind of career in charity management. I did that for about nine years, supporting homeless people into accommodation and then left behind a complete career move into life coaching and health coaching.

After having a huge transformation with my health from being sick and depressed and anxious and chronic fatigue and adrenal fatigue and thyroid problems and all this, and it went on and on and on before I was even 18, and I was able to heal myself of every single one of those things through a variety of things, but very much like supporting myself holistically. And so I really wanted to show that and other people. So I did that for a few years. And then Spirit asked me to give it all up. And it was really hard, really scary, and I had no idea what was next. But over a period of about five months, I completely surrendered and ended up in a world that I didn’t realize my whole life had been preparing me for and was part of my natural skill set, which is what I kind of cool intuitive operations, which is taking my feminine energy of light, listening to spirit and hearing and seeing things. And you very much help me like acknowledge that in myself and very much having that innate, I guess you could call it a masculine container of operations and structure and goals. And the two kinds of married beautifully and I was really blessed to work in some incredible businesses.

And then one day a friend of mine, a mutual friend of ours, suggested that you and I talk, and we did. And that turned into me helping you bring the IEA Certification, Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training to life. And I never left. It was meant to be a few months. And then we had a beautiful conversation where you asked me to come on to COO, and I guess the rest is history.

Emily: So that was really it. And thank goodness that you went through all of that, because that has given you such a broad perspective. You know, it’s one thing to just be a CEO, own a business is another thing to have walk the walk as a practitioner, as a coach had to struggle through the ups and downs and not having booking clients and in selling programs or not selling programs, and then having the experiences with other companies to see what other people are doing. And I can also say with birthing last year, the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training, you know, personally because you saw me every day. But you know, for folks who didn’t see me every day, it was something that was so 100% clear to me. Like Spirit gave me a download like X, Y, and Z is going to happen, and here’s the way it’s going to happen. And I was like, well, that’s really great and smart. Also, how do I do this? And so that’s where Amanda stepped in. It was figuring out how to orchestrate it so that these concepts and our practices and our quizzes and our coursework and our calls, like everything just worked and I also felt like giving up. You know, there were modules where I was like, I can’t – I couldn’t possibly. And I had these really negative thoughts, like, how could I possibly do this? And then I’m like, well, people pay me, so you better figure it out. And then I would snap back into it and I would deliver this like, outstanding course. And I’m like, holy crap, how did I even doubt myself?

And then I’m seeing our students like me and Amanda are seeing students week to week going from I have no idea what I’m doing here. I’m not even sure I should be here. To building their confidence week after week. Seeing clients, getting results, getting paid, increasing their rates. Like we’re seeing all this happening in front of our eyes. And both of us are, like, virtually high-fiving each other, like, Oh, my gosh. And we’re crying. They’re crying like, all these amazing things are happening.

And I mean, I’ve said it to you privately. I’ve said it to somewhat publicly as well. But I’m going to say to you on the podcast is that the Practitioner Training, the IEA Practitioner Training would not have birthed if it weren’t for you. My energy alone would not have made it happen. It just wouldn’t have. And I know that we were put together at the right time in the right configuration. It was like all the stars aligned for both of us in the way that it came through. And I’m so grateful that it did. And I also had the foresight. Then I was like, listen, I really like you, and if this works out, I’m just going to give you the heads up. I probably wouldn’t want to marry you forever. So just so you know, which is basically what happened.

Amanda: Yeah

Emily: But it was really cool to be there on that journey. And like I said, even from the shadow into the light, like birthing this program, it took that like that depth.

Amanda: It did.

Emily: It really did. And if you weren’t there, I know it wouldn’t. It wouldn’t. Wouldn’t be where it is today. We wouldn’t have now students who are graduates who are now coach and who are becoming coaches like it is evolving faster than we could have ever imagined. And so I want to kind of talk to the folks who again, they’re at that place where their coaches, their healers, their leaders, things are maybe not working the way that they could be.

And a couple of weeks ago, we had a really fun Q&A Call. Just like a lot of Q&A we hosted. And anybody, if you ever see an email blast, this is I’m doing life coaching, just like jump on it immediately. It’s so one of the women who join, her name is Alexia. She’s been in my community for a while. She had a question about, you know, what her right next step is going to be and what to do about it.

And you shared some really profound insights as far as, you know, what advice to give her. So and it was funny because I was like, I feel like Amanda needs to say something like it was like the Emily coaching call that I was like, I think I’m in. And when I get the mic over to you, I remember you saying you’re like, I wasn’t really sure what I was going to say until it came out of my mouth. And then like, you just dropped bombs and we were all like, Oh yeah, people are taking notes and even a lot it was like crying. It was like an amazing experience because it hit like, hit that nerve. It was like right to her heart.

So I want to start kind of there. Let’s pick up where we kind of left off with that and bring people into the fold. So when we were talking about the ingredients, what you feel it takes to have success in this kind of business, what have you seen has been the bigger stuff that’s been making a difference?

Amanda: Yeah, I mean, I’ve had such a privilege of kind of being on the inside of your business for a while and being on a lot of the calls with you. So I’ve seen a lot of this stuff come up. And like you say, from my previous experience of running my own businesses, it’s like a beautiful marriage. So I mean, with Alexia it was I think the question was around, like, how do I know the difference between like taking the next step out of, like blind faith and like kind of playing it safe. It was something.

Emily: Yes. Right. Yes, that’s right. Yeah.

Amanda: And I mean, if you know anything about me, I didn’t really actually probably introduce myself. I live in the UK. I have a husband, I have two dogs that my in life I live in Devon, which is in the middle of nowhere, and it’s like more houses than horses and cows and sheep than people. So if you got to say all of that, but one thing about me is like I’m a very straight shooter and I, I’m very practical, but I also live a life of faith. And so I loved this question, even though I didn’t know you were going to want me to answer it.

With so much of my life has been faith in manifestation, you know, like the house we live in now is a complete manifestation. We manifested it in the middle of COVID with like, no, you weren’t allowed to move anywhere. And everyone was telling us to settle for whatever, you know, and we would like visualize exactly what we wanted. My husband is here because of that. My dog is alive because of that. So I know of faith, but I think that’s often where we start of like we just trust. We just have faith. And that is such an essential ingredient. It’s not to make light of it, but faith without action isn’t, does nothing there. Right?

And I think that’s the part that we often miss. And I have this vision for my life. I know that I meant to do this, but like, there’s no inspired action behind it. An inspired action to me is actually like putting your face into motion. It’s saying, Well, I actually believe the thing that I’m seeing, right? So like when we manifested this house, we really wanted to take my water and everyone was telling us, you shouldn’t even be live. You can’t just take whatever you can cause.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: I forgot to say we were homeless for four months in the middle of all of this. And we had the audacity to say what we want.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: Like, take what we’re given. Right? But what we did is we actually went online and looked at houses, right? We didn’t just sit there visualizing together and talking about, like, what we want to see. We then actually went online and looked at houses. I contacted every agent and within like 50 miles of us, and we did the things we put one foot in front of the other. And low and behold, this house shows up.

Emily: Mm-hmm.

Amanda: Then we find out 70 people had applied to come to see it.

Emily: Wow.

Amanda: We’re both self-employed, so we’re like, at the bottom of the list, right? In terms of what a landlord…

Emily: Ideal.

Amanda: Right.

Emily: Right.

Amanda: But then we just took the next step where we said, okay, well, let’s go and see it. And then we applied and then like, we just went through all the stages and the house was always meant to be ours, but we had to take those steps first.

Emily: yeah

Amanda: So very much what I see like in entrepreneurial land is that we, we don’t take action. And then we wonder why things haven’t worked out. So that’s been like a huge piece for me that I have seen. And it’s this thing that I know you and I have spoken about this many times, this kind of age-old thing of like, you know, someone’s drowning at sea and they ask God to save them. And then the lifeboat shows up and it’s like, no, no, thank you. I’m good. I ask God to save me. And it’s like, we don’t always take, like, the thing that’s right in front of us because we’re expecting it in a different form.

Emily: Yeah.

Amanda: And I guess the last thing I’ll say on that is like, action is like the energetics signal to the universe that, like, we’re ready for what we are believing for. And if you don’t take action, then you’re not. You’re just there’s nothing that happens.

Emily: And if you see like to your point around, you know, I’m waiting for God to send so to save me, like if we are actively open to receiving this big manifestation, whatever it is, we should also be actively seeing everything as conspiring for us to create that thing in our lives so we really could start to say yes to things when they show up to us. You know, and I mean, back to the like manifest in the house that you’re in.

I’ve been in a similar situation and manifesting housing. My first marriage was ending. We were supposed to buy a house and we put down $12,000. We lost everything. They wouldn’t give our deposit back. I had six days to find an apartment in a very congested city, close, and I needed it to be with parking, with laundry and pet friendly and also clean, by the way. And the same thing. My people were like, just just take whatever. If you can’t take the dog, I’m like, I want like, just not take my left arm short. I’m not kidding you. So I was like, I don’t need a thousand of them. I just need one. And I think that’s the thing, is that people can overlook how simple it is. Like it’s not a million of these. It’s just the one.

And when you and Gustav got clear about what you wanted, you visualize it. Then you start to take action. They start to take the pieces to move forward. Like, okay, so maybe the odds are stacked against you. So what? What if it’s the perfect thing? What if we just look at it like it’s not going, but people get into the loop of like all the negative stories. And so let’s look at how we treat our business this way when we have, you know, a vision of making an impact and helping people and allowing them to do whatever we do, just helping them along the way, and we’re not making the impact that we’re looking to do.

And then we start looking on social and we start comparing ourselves to everybody else who’s out there and obviously way more successful and way easier for them. It’s easier for them because and we make all these other excuses for all these other things, and then we start to go, well, it’s not that way for me. And we start to create a plan B, So the plan B, I, I know we’ve talked about this endlessly too. I feel like the Plan B is also that secret saboteur. It is taking your plan A of I want to have this beautiful place in this location with water and X, Y, and Z included. And instead of saying I’ll take that and that by itself, instead, it would take you everyone else’s advice to just take anything that comes along your way. And so if you’re doing that, whether it’s for your house or for your business, and you’re saying, here’s a plan B, what if I do that?

Then you can see, like when we talk about housing, let’s talk to Amanda’s story, because I think it’s worthwhile to look at this example to see how specific we can be and when we’re not, what happens. So if you just said, okay, well, I know I really want this beautiful Narnia style living situation, to use your words. I want this beautiful Narnia living situation. But if I don’t get it because la la la la la la la la la la la la. Excuse, excuse, excuse. And I could just have the plan B. So see what already happens to my energy. It already totally deflates. Instead of being 100% into Narnia and Narnia alone and taking action, now all of a sudden there’s this, like, mystery question, door number two, and the energy is already depleted. And then I’m mostly focused in fear because I wouldn’t have a plan B and this extra opportunity if I didn’t have all that fear controlling me and saying this is the only other direction. And so if you have no more Plan B, then all your energy can actually go to the thing that you actually want.

But that’s what most people are doing, so they’re stuck with, I really want Narnia, but I’ll settle for this because I don’t think I can actually get Narnia because I’m not good enough, I’m not smart enough, I don’t have enough followers. I’m not whatever. And so we just settle at this lower vibration. And so then let’s say that you’re at this lower vibration and you’re trying to help people from this lower state.

Well, and they’ll keep it towards the housing, okay? I’m getting sidetracked because I’m making it about business, and I really want to keep it directed towards housing. So let’s say I really want to get a great house, except now I’m just not as energetically invested in it. So the energy that I’m putting out there into action. So all the things that Amanda’s now doing, she’s not just looking them up online. She’s going for visits, she’s applying, she’s going for a visit, and she’s going to the areas that she wants to live. If I’m not doing any of those things, my energy is not going to be anywhere near where hers is.

Let’s say we’re both looking for the same location. How about that? Me versus you. Let’s talk about taking action, aligned action. So we already know the ten things that Amanda has already done, if I’m thinking I want what Amanda wants, but I have a plan B, think about us, like on a race track. Amanda’s, like, so much further along already towards manifesting that because I still have this plan B kind of. Well, I don’t know. I’m going to self-sabotage the way I’m not going to apply for that thing because I probably won’t even get it anyway. So I’m not even going to put myself out there, let alone go take a look at the place. And so my chances of getting it are really slim to none.

So that’s like if we look at as far as like housing, how simplistic that is, not even business and the complexities of business. I love that you share the story because now we can kind of paint a picture. What happens when we have a plan B? So what are we going to say?

Amanda: There’s so much, there’s so much. Can we share on this show or no?

Emily: Well, yes, we do. Yeah. So I think that’s where it is. it encourages.

Amanda: Right. There’s so many things from what you said and I love this discussion so much for so many reasons. But I remember I used to be obsessed with Tony Robbins a long time ago, and I used to go I went to a lot of his conferences and stuff. One thing I remember him saying and that stuck with me is he said, If you want to take the island, burn the fucking boats and meaning, take away any chance of being able to go back because then you will take the island. Whatever is on the island, whatever is that is going to scare you, make you fearful. What are you going to do? You either have to take it and, you know, face it or you’re going to drown because you’re not in a boat anymore.

Emily: Yeah.

Amanda: And to me, I totally resonate with that because to me, a plan B is a complete energy leak. It is another signal that I say, I want this, but I kind of want that. Right. And I have always been a really big believer in like faith is about trusting in what you can’t see, obviously. But like like you just said, like coming back to housing. We were traumatized because I don’t know if I ever told you this, but before we got our dream house, we had another dream house and we were meant to move in, the day off day was like 8 p.m. and the landlord called us and we had nowhere else to go. It looked like a miracle. And he called us and said, sorry, I just in my gut, I didn’t feel this is right. And early the next morning we had nowhere to go. So we had this like massive disappointment and so everything. Visually and physically in evidence, wisely told us, is you just need to take whatever you’re given.

And we had and this is part of, I think, success as well as we had the guts and the grit to say hi and to your point of like there’s so much more like in business than there is in something as simple as housing. There is still this there’s we believed that we were worthy of that, right. We have that same belief of like, we don’t need one. This is one dream house, right? And we didn’t just come and see it. We came back two days later and we put our hands all over the gate and we just said we didn’t force it. We said, if this is for our highest good, let it work out. It is ours. And then we walked around and we got to know the area and we just like really fell into it and like claimed it as ours if it was for us. Right?

I truly believe rejection is protection. So I was like, well, the thing that didn’t work, I didn’t make it about me. There’s something wrong with me. Like I, I suck. Like I’m obviously rubbish at manifestation. That’s why this house didn’t work out. It was like, it’s protection. And you know what? The guy sold it six months later, so.

Emily: Wow

Amanda: He would have had to move out anyway.

Emily: Yes.

Amanda: And we got redirected to a place which we’d never even been to. And it turns out we’ve been here three years now and turns out it’s like heaven for us, right? So I bring all of that up because I truly believe, like you said, we had a plan B, none of that would have happened. And that is often what I see in online business owners is like, if things aren’t working out, there’s this. It’s very quick to just go to this other option. And like you said, you’re not splitting your energy 50-50. You know, you’re actually putting 80% of your energy to this. And then you don’t have the literally not just the physical energy, but the spiritual energy to put towards this thing. Right?

Emily: Right.

Amanda: So, yeah, that’s what I was saying.

Emily: I love that. And rejection is protection. Everybody write that down. Rejection is protection. And because sometimes take a hit and it’s just like we make it mean all these other things when it really doesn’t need to. The thing that has always helped me, especially with housing and every big decision I’ve ever made, is really this or something better. Like it’s either this or this is just opening that door to something even better that’s coming. So I’m open for this. But if it’s getting better and this O-M-G, yes, I’m so down, so then you can actually be like, happy. When the plan A that your focus 100% on doesn’t pan out because you know there’s part of us especially, you know, if you’re a homeowner and you’re buying a house like you know even if your offer is accepted on a house, it doesn’t mean it’s yours until the damn keys in your hand like that, so many things can happen.

And so, you know, for people who are homeowners, it’s not really that different than when you’re a renter. Like, it’s not necessarily yours until you know it’s absolutely yours. And so that’s where you have to really have that faith and, you know, use all these spiritual tools. I want to kind of switch gears into let’s talk about, you know, the Plan B and the lack thereof and what that can do for a business. Because, you know, like I said, and I wanted to pull the curtain back and I wanted to make this a little bit vulnerable about myself and about the business, because I feel like that’s also part why you guys are here and why you stick around because, you know, it’s no bullshit, it’s no fluff. And this is an honest place where you can check in with people who are going to tell you like it is. And it’s not just crystals and unicorns around here, although there are a lot of unicorns. And if you don’t like them, then you know where the door is. 🙂

Amanda: She really means that.

Emily: I do really mean that. I’m not even one of those like, sorry, not sorry. I’m not sorry. But truthfully, it’s like, you know, I got to a point where, you know, for the last year birthing the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training was a labor of love, and I literally had to shut down other I didn’t know why, I was shutting down my programs at the end of the previous year. I just knew I needed to.

And then I bought this program. So like I had that faith to know I’m always being guided. I had no idea. Not even like an ounce of like, I wonder about this certification idea. It was not on my radar, whatsoever. It wasn’t until I close my programs down at the end of November, early December, it wasn’t until the end of January where I downloaded the entirety of my program. And then we didn’t meet until the March, we didn’t meet until the March, and then I sold it in June and we started in July. So like basically the entirety of 2022, I shut down huge revenue streams.

Amanda: Yeah

Emily: To choose a brand new program that was not tested and proven.I was going through those motions right then and taking a huge risk. And by doing so, by the end of the year, I was at a place where I was in a contraction year and I’ve talked about this on previous podcast. It was a contraction year. Up until then, all of my years were like expand, expand 2x, 3x party time, get down.

And that was new for me to feel a contraction and to know I have a team of people who I pay them so that they can support their families. And I didn’t want to take anything away from my team. And that meant making sacrifices for myself and I sacrificed myself and other things so that I can make sure that everyone could keep all the lights on. And at this point, entering this year, we were at a crossroads where I said, all right, so I need help. Like we need to figure something out fast because we really like things need to change. And I have this incredible business. I have this incredible community. I am here for this one purpose, to spread this light and to do like activation to millions of people across the planet. And I don’t have a plan B, There is nothing else other than this for me. Like this is it. And we had this really kind of serious call. And I remember you saying, like, this is my only thing to I don’t have a plan B either. I’m here for it. I’m here for you. We’re going to do this.

And I remember it bringing me to tears because that was the first time that I really, truly felt like seen and held by anybody. And I felt it deeply like, even as I say now, like I’m tapping into like, the feelings that I felt and to feel like that I wasn’t alone and like, because I had felt like I’m the captain of the ship and we’re all doing the thing that Emily wants to do. But suddenly, like, I was the copilot and it wasn’t all on me anymore, and you basically gave me permission to take care of myself so that the business could run and I could take care of myself. Because I had been working so damn hard, I needed a break. And you saw that. I mean, we also had an awesome human design written by Aycee Brown, which also facilitated some of these choices. But through that, it was like you gave me permission to do the self-care that I really needed to do to take a break, to rest, to nurture myself and to get myself really back into a higher state. And I never felt afraid. I never felt worried. I was like, okay, Amanda’s got this. And we had this. I don’t know how was the time was like reality, but, like, it felt like the next day you woke up and you’re like, I had this amazing vision. Was it like, what was the actual timeline? I know…

Amanda: Those vision? I feel like I’ve had so many.

Emily: Like when you had the vision for and then like Gustav had the bread pudding thing that.

Amanda: oh, that was like sometime in Feb, like mid Feb.

Emily: Okay, So but like, from that conversation, maybe it was like a week maybe, or from when we were talking about like we got to turn things around.

Amanda: Yeah, it was like a few days.

Emily: It was a few days.

Amanda: Yeah.

Emily: Yeah. So I want to just kind of open up to the fact that, you know, this was like a dark night of the soul for me, like, for the business, for me. And I know that a lot of people have been feeling this climate of put your money where your mouth is. Walk your walk, sister. Like, get out there. You said you’re going to do this. Go do it. Let’s see. We’re going to stack all the cards up against you to see if you can still do it. And for me, I was like, Well, we better get out the bulldozer because I am only doing this. And also, but it also took you I couldn’t have just kept plowing away at it. I needed to actually step out so that I could recharge.

Amanda: Yeah.

Emily: And so, when Amanda said, you know, she uses her intuition for this feminine and masculine approach. What you did was you went into deep meditation and you started to channel and you channel some really powerful ideas. And essentially what birthed one of our most successful. For instance, I mean, in a recent, the recent past, one of the most successful workshops we’ve ever done. And when you’re like, here’s what’s going to be in like for a week, I was like, wait, what am I teaching again? And it evolved. And then all of a sudden I was like, here’s what I’m going to teach. Wait, the option is going to look like this. And here’s the thing is and we changed it, but it had this resurgence of energy. And now we’re at this place where we had some huge wins. And we’ve seen sort of like, the light has parted.

But I would love to kind of bring our listeners back into a little bit of like the spiritual practices that we also did to get to that place, because it wasn’t just Emily’s going to like leave the company and Amanda is going to run things like. Do you want to share a little bit of like the spiritual stuff that we did and what you did that really helped us to align for that level of success?

Amanda: Yeah. Yeah, I’d love to. And I think just before I go to that, I want to say that it – you explained it really well, but I think even then sometimes people get it couldn’t have been that bad. It was bad, people. It wasn’t. It was bad. It was really, a really challenging time. But the things that I saw you do that are part of what I believe successful people do is you always bettering yourself, you always back on yourself, and you’ve always said that. And I think a lot of people don’t. You have that belief, right, that like it’s going to work out. And I think that that’s both the belief in yourself and in spirit. And that’s why a lot of people need your work, is that they’ve got like a lot of subconscious programming and energetic ties and wounds that prevent them from having that belief. So that’s, that’s the first thing.

But then the second thing is even the days we were like, I literally can’t do this anymore. The next morning you’re like, messaging me. I’ve got an idea. She’s relaxed like you let yourself feel it. But you didn’t stay there, right? And I think it’s okay to feel we’re not telling people like you always have to be a high vibe. And it’s like it’s important to not spiritually bypass, but it’s also important to remember your mission. And you’ve always had a very clear reason for why you do what you do. And so I think that’s really important to say that.

But yeah, in terms of the spiritual tools, they all came out like we, you know, we both spent time in meditation separately and together. We both channeled together and just, you know, almost all our meetings. We have some form of whether it’s like just centering or whether it’s pulling cards. We pull cards a lot. You’ve got the pendulum out before. We’ve asked for guidance. We even brought my husband in once for that three-way session, which was awesome. And so we did so much like on the spiritual side. But also I would say, I mean, I see the physical as also spiritual, like you needed to the sounds crazy, but like you needed to go and play.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: You needed to go and have fun. And I understand the feeling of like when everything in you is saying, I don’t have time for that. Like, you know, we got to make money, we got to do the thing. And it’s like, but you’re being called to do this because in the rest, is the growth, right? In the rest, is the healing. And that’s what you needed.
And so I know that some people might be listening to this thinking, Oh, it’s okay for you. You had someone to run your business. No, it wasn’t like, it was really hard for you to like, not because you didn’t trust me, but there’s so many things wrapped up in it, and it was hard to be like, I’m going to go and just like knith, will like, walk or go play with my dog or just be right.

Emily: Yeah. Yeah.

Amanda: And so that was a huge part of like you had to physically and energetically recharge. And in all of this, you were still running a business. So I think sometimes people think like when they’re in that place and they think that’s the difference between a hobby, kind of a, you know, coach or healer and like someone that sees it as the business is, you don’t just shut up, shut and be like, I need healing. I’m down. Like you having the healing on the side.

Emily: Right.

I know you’re working with practitioners as well because you were also showing up and doing the coaching calls and running the certification and showing up for your membership. It wasn’t like you were like, I’m out there.

Emily: Right.

Amanda: And so I think that all of those things are really important, right? It’s like having that vision and having that belief, having that grit and using your spiritual tools, using that. I always say, like, we teach what we most need. I’m sorry. Yeah. We teach what we most need to learn. Right? And like, it’s so I’ve worked with so many people who are not in alignment with their own message. And I can say, like I’ve said this to you privately many times, like that is not you. You are like 100% integrity in alignment to what you preach is how you live. And I truly don’t believe you would have come out of this, if you didn’t use the very tools that you teach.

Emily: Yeah, I agree. And I appreciate you saying that. And that is true. It wasn’t that I was like just signing out. I was allowing myself a new identity.

Amanda: Yeah.

Emily: My identity last year was really working hard to birth something and to deliver it and to nurture it and to feed it like, a like I was birthing a baby and it literally took us nine months of gestation to birth. It was crazy, right? We’ll look back, like oh my gosh. And then I was probably in like postpartum, you know, of like it’s out and now I need to do what am I doing? And so I but also I was seeking out ways to heal. And the things that I had been doing. And you mentioned practitioner. So, I still got regular energy work, massage therapy.

I started to see a hypnotherapist. That was something that was brand new to me. And I felt that the reason why I chose hypnosis was because I had inner child wounds that had been resurfacing throughout like the recent past. And so I, I just asked a friend for referral, got the referral, made the appointment, loved it, started seeing this person. So her name is Kristen Dwan and I’ll probably have her on the podcast at some point.

But what I got back last week was a progress report from just five weeks prior. I had shared before hypnosis that I was feeling heavy, I wasn’t feeling in the flow. I wasn’t feeling very inspired and excited. I wasn’t feeling light. I was feeling anxious and stressed out and worried financially. And so she had me grade myself on a scale from 1 to 10 of how I was feeling those things in like ten more, I mean, 20 more, I don’t even know. And five weeks later, now this is me. I’m integrating. I’m doing all of my meditations every day. I’m going outside of nature, I’m eating healthy foods. I’m taking supplements. I am drinking water.

I’m like, I’m doing cold plunging. I started to do cold plunging, and the cold immersion and the hypnosis, I think, have completely started to transform me, plus the time away to play. And what I was using the hypnosis like twice a day, if not more, to five weeks in the future.

When we went back and I just kind of feel want to look back at what those numbers were. How are you feeling with these, this and this? And I was on like, you know, how do you feel with anxiety? I was like an eight out of ten. Then she says, how do you feel now? And I said I’m like a two. She’s like, what? How about in the flow? And I said, Oh, I feel like I’m like, of nine. And she’s like, you were two. Okay? Like, these are not just like small incremental shifts. These are enormous leaps.

And so what I want to share back to our initial point and your point about and having faith and having guts and grit is like I was down, but I wasn’t out and I was going to work on myself and play and work through the rejection and work through all the things that I felt like were stacked up against me because my vision and my faith was stronger than anything.

Amanda: Yes.

Emily: And, you know, as much as I could make excuses about, like, well, it’s the environment and people and money and their session. And that’s not true, because there’s people out there who are absolutely crushing it. And so I’m not the type of person who makes excuses. Like I can say, well, this is the climate and this is what we have to be. Innovative and use our intuition. Our intuition helps us to navigate. And so when we use all these spiritual tools, we can collaborate intuitively and, you know, and the end. And I have this amazing synergy that when we sit together in meditation and we channel, it’s like, I’m getting something, she is getting something, and we kind of build this like thing that we don’t know that we’re building. And all of a sudden it’s like, look what we made.

And, so I want to just share that is like. This is the nice podcast episode that I want to share of, like it can be this darker place and you can come through it, when you have this vision and you have this grit and there is no more plan B and you take the help when it’s handed out to you. And this is also about betting on myself. I bet on myself. But I also felt like in those dark times I was bullied here to be of service to other people. And so I didn’t make it about me in my own personal struggles, but I had to work on my own stuff, too. But so this is I think it’s kind of a darker, I don’t know, heavier episode to see like this side of the business. But I also think it’s really important for you to know, it just, it just is. And so, you know, I remember when I was first getting started, I had a hard time. When you’re first getting started, when you’re trying to get those first ten customers, those first 50 customers, those first hundred followers, an email subscribers, like that’s the steep side of the learning curve.

And for those folks who are at that place and you feel like giving up, I want you to hear my story because it doesn’t just get better. Once you’ve made a million dollars in your business and everything is just so much easier once you have 9,000 and 15 thousand followers and how many? I don’t know, 600,000 downloads. Like, it doesn’t get easier. The place where you’re at now, getting those first ten, those first 100. It’s the same grit and determination from that exact ladder point to the next huge ladder point, the bigger rungs. It’s that same you’re building that foundation when you can start to have blind faith and say, like what you said, like, burn the boats. You’re able to focus your energy on just one thing.

And so, you know, I think that’s what helped me attract you into my business, you know, that I was like, I know I’m here to serve this high level and that’s that. So the universe is like, here’s this amazing human that is going to help with all that. And I mean, I remember at some point, I remember what I was listening to or looking back, but I was like, oh my gosh, I’ve been praying for you since whatever time it was. I’m like, oh my gosh, you are the person I was praying for all that time. And it’s like we we’re so focused on like the future of what’s going forward in front of us that we don’t often take time to look back at, to see truly like the magic that we have manifested in like the Americans that are already in front of us. And that, you know, we know that line of like the things that you have today is what you prayed for, you know, years ago.

And is there something that you feel like you can say that about right now of like the practitioner you, the coach you, the person who is just like figuring it out, the person who lost their housing. Like what you have today. Is there something that you can say besides the house as well of course. But that’s something that you have today that you can say that you know for sure. You have prayed for years ago and you are like living your wildest dreams right now.

Amanda: Oh, so many things. I mean, you know this, but like the day that you messaged me and said, we need to take this to the next level. That morning I declared out loud for the first time, like, I want to work with more people like Emily. I literally said those words, I want more clients like Emily. And then that day you were like, hey, we need to talk. Like it was like, what? And I know that it was my willingness and audacity to say what I wanted of that through. I often feel like Spirit is literally like I have all these things for you. You just need to give me the signal that you were ready, right?

Emily: Yeah. Yeah.

Amanda: It’s like it’s, it’s there. Like when you have that belief system and I’ve had to work a lot on that. I am safe, I am protected. I’m everything is for me in this world. Like you attract those things to you, right? But like, you have to have that belief. So I really see like, experiences that like, I want to give it to you. I want you to just stay safe because that is absolutely. My husband, he’s my best friend. We’ve been married 13 years. I met him when I was 16. We didn’t get together for seven years and I always said, I will never marry that guy. But I was literally praying for my future partner and I didn’t know it was him.

But again, I think what’s so important I’ve learned I used to be so specific and now I’m glad to be specific and open like you. Like that’s my version of this or something better, right? Like, yeah, I’m like, there is so much out there for me and I can only see what I know. Like, there’s only like, I can only ask for what I can imagine, but what if there’s more, right? So I asked for what I could imagine in a in a husband. And then he walks through the door seven years later and it’s like, oh, yeah, it’s him.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: Always been him. I just couldn’t see it before. So yeah, I mean, I could get and on but those are two right?

Emily: That’s how I felt about my husband actually I joke about that because I had a previous boyfriend before him that was like very aloof and kind of here or there. And I would make a list between boyfriends of like the attributes that I really found, like, what are really like my core values, what I’m really looking for here. And I always joke that Andrew, my husband, hit all of them except for being like over six feet tall like that. He just didn’t meet my requirements.

Amanda: Oh, I got that!

Emily: Yeah, you got that. Know exactly clear to me the height requirement. But are we really going to be…

Amanda: right, exactly.

Emily: But I’m only five foot two anyways, so it’s fine. But I think it’s really important that we are able to acknowledge where we’re at, you know, and like you mentioned, like not to be spiritually bypassing the hard and the difficult and the depth of where we need to go. I think from that place we’re planting the new seeds. We’re in that depth, we’re in that darkness, we’re in that hibernation period. But it’s only a period. And I think that’s one thing that, you know, nature has always repeatedly taught me is this is a cycle and this is not a permanent thing. And if we can ride out the season, there’s going to be another season after this and it’s going to get better. It’s going to get brighter. And so for anybody listening to this and you’re in one of those darker nights of the soul in one of those heavier seasons, I want this very vulnerable share. Hopefully, I don’t regret this. I haven’t regretted really having any of these podcast episodes.

But I mean, this is really sharing like my own struggles. And I and I hope that you can hear where I’m at. And, you know, Amanda and I have partnered up in this way to say like this faith is the driver, this vision is the driver, but it can’t be that alone. And so even on your darkest days, it’s important to focus on that faith and do the deeper work so you can keep delivering that message that only you can do. And it is not doing the world any service. When you create a Plan B and you oscillate between this or that, it’s like just be with you are joy, with your passion, with your purpose, with that vision. And keep praying to create whatever that is for you. And it doesn’t matter if you’re on your own or you have a team of people. Because if you have a team of people, I would almost say it’s a little bit harder because they have to be on board with your vision. And that’s the other thing I want – I mean, my other team members, Rio and Shaunah, aren’t here on the call right now, but. They are 100% in alignment with our vision.

Amanda: Yes.

Emily: And every single Monday, I set an intention and I sent an audio note to everybody to set an intention for us as a team collectively and individuals that we can serve on our highest level to raise the level of consciousness and bring harm to none. And they believe in the vision. They see the vision, they are cheering on the vision. And so, you know, I couldn’t do my work by myself. It would not happen. I wouldn’t make nearly half the impact that I’m making today, even a fraction. So it is the collective energy of my team.

But if you are a solo entrepreneur, trust yourself, trust yourself in the process. Would there be any closing words that you would have for folks that they’re on their own? Or if they are on the team to help them to stay in their vision, even if they’re having that sort of darker time.

Amanda: Yeah. I mean, I think what I would say is it’s kind of coming back to your dark night of the soul. And we’ve all had them right where one of the things that you did was you always took responsibility and you always said it wasn’t like a blame thing, but you would say. What am I doing or not doing? That’s not attracting the right people or not getting the results that we want, right? But yes, acknowledge what’s going on, but you always bring it back to yourself. And so I would say that as hard as it is, like, look inside, think if you’ve done all the things and this is actually come back to my coaching business, there were times where it was hugely successful. But a lot of the times it was not. And it was because I was doing all the external stuff. And it’s important. Like, I know how to basically do everything in an online business. However, I never looked at myself. I never dealt with my blogs. I never dealt with my core wounds, past life, and ancestral stuff, like I didn’t know how to.

And that’s why I love the work you do, because you have this beautiful marriage of both, right? Like the program we just released, The Accelerated Path is soul and strategy. And I think that’s so important. And so what I would say is like, don’t just focus on the strategy. Make sure you’re going in and you’re asking for guidance like also guidance. Ask what is it that I need and then take action.

Emily: Yeah

Amanda: Because I believe success is inevitable for everyone. And so if you’ve been given a calling and you feel like I’m meant to be doing this work in the world, then do this work in world. But sometimes you have to actually, like, deal with what’s going on to be able to If it’s fear of being seen, if it’s whatever it is, like deal with that so that you can serve the people you’re here to serve.

Emily: So smart. I love that it’s all about action. I mean, even when I think about like taking less of a front seat in the business, I’m taking action every day, doing the damn thing to make the changes and taking responsibility. That’s so smart. I think we could definitely keep sharing more. And I would love you know, I know we will be doing more live calls, more Q&A is more coaching calls. So if you guys, you know, resonate with this episode and you want to connect with me and Amanda outside of this episode, you can definitely find us on Instagram.

Obviously, on my website I will be doing some specials on my shop page because it is our four-year anniversary, so we’ll have that all listed on the podcast episode itself, so that you can get all kinds of meditations and classes and workshops so that you can take this work a little bit deeper.

And of course, the next thing we have coming up, really we’re going to be planning. So like you’re going to hear this first, we are going to be rolling out Intuition week again. We have not done Intuition Week for so long. We are so, so excited to bring Intuition Week back. It’s going to be back and better than ever, maybe with some really great new fresh stuff. So if you’ve done it before, this is a whole new time to do it again.

Plus, this season it’s a great time to just really open up your intuition, especially for your business again, coaches, healers and leaders. And then in June, we’ll be reopening the doors to the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training again. So if that is something that you’re excited about, it is the first and only energy-based training with a profit guarantee, friends.

So this episode is kind of like scratching the surface of how deep that work goes. You’re going to learn the energy work like I do, and then you’re going to learn the business work like I do and how to really marry the two of them. So both of those things are coming up. We’ll have everything on the show notes as well as on the podcast website.

Thank you, Amanda, for being my special guest today. This was such a big conversation. So thank you for your wisdom and your insights. You dropped some bombs on here. So thank you for joining me.

Amanda: Oh, you’re welcome. Thank you so much for having me.

Emily: All right, listeners, make sure you take a screenshot, tag me in your Instagram stories. Let me know what’s your biggest AHA was. Did this episode give you peace of mind knowing you’re not the only one struggling and that you know you can have faith and move on to the next place and just take some wind action? Let me know what came up for you. And as always, your reviews mean so much to me, so always leave a nice review over on your favorite listening platform after you’ve listened to this episode. And we’ll see you in the next episode. Thanks again. Lots of love to all.

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Are you a coach or healer who is having trouble getting fully booked with your programs or services? If so, this it’s the perfect time to do some shadow work!

If you’re struggling with any of these:

  • Attracting enough of the right clients and charging your worth
  • Getting yourself fully booked
  • Worrying that you should have a plan B
  • Sacrificing your time comparing yourself to others
  • Or all of the above!

I’m here to help you!

When we aren’t getting the expected results in our business, we usually get as far as terror, panic, and fear when we consider what happens if this doesn’t work out.

This is why you need shadow work. It’s a way to work through the emotions stopping you from getting your much-needed programs and services out into the world. You may have to “do it scared” but that’s why I’m here to help by doing this together.

Highlights you won’t want to miss:
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  • Why you can’t stop at the fear, terror, or anxious feelings if you want to get to the next level.
  • How to work through these feelings and insecurities (have a pen and paper handy!).
  • You are the only one who knows if THIS is your time.
  • My story of trying the strategies of broke healers and expecting a different result.
  • Don’t let anything stop you from doing the work you’re here to do!

Hey, everybody. It’s Emily, And I wanted to share something about shadow work, which is probably not the most popular topic ever, But I feel like as I’m opening up the Accelerated Path Program, it is ripe with opportunity for you, for me, for us. And if you are a coach or a healer who has been struggling to make it, struggling to get enough clients, not booking your calendar fully and there is just like an effort made to try to sell your things, but like no one or not, enough people are buying it. This is a session for you.Hi. Hi, Ariel. It’s great to see my company start working. I was really not sure because I haven’t been leaving my phone for a while, so that’s good news.

So if you are a coach or a healer, whether you’re live on the replay, put a 1 in. If you are someone who has struggled to attract enough of the right clients or get yourself fully booked, put a 2 in, I would love to see who that resonates with. So I want to talk about some shadow work.

Hi, Tonika! Good to see you here. Of course, you’re here.

So let’s do some shadow work, shall we? So, yeah, we’re going to do some shadow work. Is everybody resonated with this message? You’re a coach, you’re a healer? I can’t see the comments coming in at the moment, but I presume that’s… Yes, coach, healers. Problems getting fully booked. I was just going to pull up something. I did this Money Block Clearing the other day which was really powerful. And I know that a lot of folks, here’s how they identified.
 – Number 1, you’re struggling to get clients in charging your worth.
 – Drop a 2, if you’re worried, if you should create a plan B.
 – Number 3, you’re sacrificing your time comparing yourself to others.
 – Or 4, all of the above.

Okay? So I know I kind of want to go as fast, but just put the one that feels like it resonated with you. So let’s talk about it. What I wanted to share today is about shadow work. So, for those of you who are kind of have the desire to help more people, but there’s always kind of the background or maybe foreground this desire to have a plan B, like if this doesn’t work, WHF am I going to do with my life?

So, let’s go there. This is what we usually avoid. We usually get as far as terror, panic, anxiety, and fear when we consider if our programs, if our work, if our coaching and healing stuff doesn’t work out, and we kind of stop with our toes on the line of – is it going to work? What if it doesn’t? And then we go into this panic mode. I know this feeling very well because as you may or may not know, I’ve been doing energy healing for 23 years, 15 – the majority of 15 of those 20 years I was broke. I was living just barely making it.

And then I had my kid and my husband was primarily the one who was supporting our household. I really wasn’t. I was making about $1,000 a month and not much more. And I knew I had a dream. And I mean, I knew I wanted to help more people, but I was terrified to know what to do. I didn’t know how to actually do it. And so what I’m here to teach you how to do is the framework for taking your coaching and healing business out there into the world and positioning yourself. So you are a unicorn. You are one amazing person in a very saturated market. It’s going to help you to stand out. It’s going to help you sell your offers. It’s going to help you to take yourself seriously.

So I only want to talk to people who are here and take themselves seriously. As I see it, 16 people who are on live. If all of you are here to take yourself seriously, just stay on, okay? If you’re kind of like I like to do healing and coaching, but like as a hobby side hustle, like I’m not actually wanting to help people. I would like to, but like, not as, like my main thing, like, I’m not talking to you.
I’m talking to the folks who want to take themselves seriously, who want their family and friends to take them seriously.

And when you introduce yourself, whether at a business networking thing or just like a friend’s party, when you introduce yourself and you go, “hi, my name is Emily and I’m an energy healer and I also coach business coaches. I’m also a coach to coaches and healers online.” And they go, oh, wow! So, you do like… so, tell me more about that. You do energy work for entrepreneurs and say, Yeah, I help coaches and healers to build profitable businesses. And they go, oh, wow, that’s really cool!

So I want to help you to be able to feel really good and really serious and really confident about what you do in the world, but sometimes you don’t really even know what that is yet. So let’s do some shadow work, shall we?

Got 18 people. Hey, if you guys would just say hi, let me know that you are here with me and you are present. I know sometimes we open up apps when we’re doing other things, but like, if you’re here, let’s just go down this road, okay?

When you think of if my coaching in the healing business doesn’t work, what is your first thought? This is going to really help our visualization.

So put it in the chat.

What is your first thought when you worry? You’re most definitely here. Great. If this doesn’t work out, then what?

For me, I’m going to go to fix my hair because it’s like it’s just doing its own thing today. I’m going to do it tomorrow. Tomorrow I’m going to do some live coaching here on Facebook. You’ll get an invitation to join me on Zoom, and that’s where I’ll do some live coaching.
Go back to corporate. Oh, with the teary eyes.Yeah. And I can feel that resistance in you too, Tonika too. Who else?

Be brave. What is it that you fear when you go? If this doesn’t work out, then what’s going to happen? For me, I always, for some reason, imagine being a barista at Starbucks. Like, if I’m not fulfilling my true heart’s desires, I may as well do like something I would hate. Like, that – it was so black and white for me of like you either do what you love or you are miserable and being miserable or working at Starbucks. Then I started to think about, well, then I would lose my apartment, I would lose my house, and maybe I would lose my car if it doesn’t work out. What if I feel I don’t know what will happen? Melissa, let’s talk about what will happen. Going back is to serving that I did for 20 years, like waitressing, working a miserable 9 to 5 just to make some sort of living. Exactly, Ariel. Being the worst of me again. Yep, exactly.

So you can feel that in your body.

“I gave up a government job with a pension”. A ha ha ha ha ha. That see, they they do. They dangle it. They dangle that pension in front of you and you go, oh that’s nice. Oh, that’s nice. And it is nice. And it doesn’t mean you can’t still do your government job and have a thriving coaching or healing business. That doesn’t mean it. But what it will mean that if you can’t dedicate energy to your practice.

My family will think I’m nuts. Yeah. Anybody else family thinks that they’re nuts? Either for quitting their job or for being a coach or a healer, or just they don’t get you at all. So, this is why I want us to go here. I don’t want us to avoid the scary thing. I want us to do the shadow work that brings up the feelings. And I want to see what happens next. I want you to see what happens next. So I want you to just in your mind’s eye. If you visualize this thing, is not going to work out. And here’s all the worst things that happen.
 – My family thinks I’m crazy.
 – I can’t make it work as a coach or a healer.
 – I have to go back to a corporate job.
 – I have to go back to waitressing.

And that’s just to keep the food coming in, lights on Internet phone like the bare necessities. But what if it got worse than that? And, like, you really couldn’t even make that work. And you are getting, you know, less and less money coming in. Then it’s almost like your backs up against the wall and maybe you become homeless. Maybe you aren’t even eating because you don’t have enough money to feed yourself. Then what? When your backup is against the wall. You got nothing left to lose. Other than maybe the clothes and shoes that you’re wearing. You got no one. You got nothing. Then what? Then what do you do?

And we have to go down this path. To see how bad it could possibly get. And even it doesn’t have to get to that point. Even if your worst path is going back to corporate, Tonika, even if your worst path, Melissa, is staying at that government job and just not doing what your heart is calling you to do. Why do I have this notification popping up?

What if you quit your healing and coaching business and you become a waitress again? How does that feel? What are you going to do about it? When you’re back up, back against the wall and you’re just doing what you have to do. How does that feel in your body? How does that feel in your soul? And put it in the comments. I’m going to share my story, too, because it’s been I’ve been there.

I’ve been doing healing for 23 years, but I didn’t always have my full-time practice. I went in and out of receptionist jobs and while I was a receptionist, I was doing healing work or teaching yoga. I went to a corporate job where I was working as an executive assistant, also known as a glorified babysitter. To very rich, very, very, very rich people, mostly men. And I felt like my soul was decaying inside of me. That feeling of like, uh.

However, I had a steady paycheck. I was getting raises and bonuses. People at my job like me, they actually encouraged me to get my series seven so that I could also become a salesperson and make good gobs of money just like them. And I was like, thanks, but no. Like, this is bad enough. This is just a temporary thing until I decide I’m going to go all in on my healing work.
And part of why I didn’t go in all in on my healing work is because I didn’t have anybody to show me how to do it. Nobody before me had a successful healing career that at least I knew of. There was no mentor out there. There was nobody who I saw who was a healer, an energy worker, a tarot card reader, whatever, who was teaching the ins and outs in the framework of a business like how to run a business. If you do this, I can get you there. No one did that, so I literally didn’t know how to do it.

It had to get so bad for me that I quit my job. I was like, screw all this. I’m back into full-time healing work and I want to make it work. And I was praying for miracles and years and years and years of struggle. Finally surmounted when I was just like my back was against the wall. I thought I couldn’t sink any lower. And I was like, I have to change something. And I became desperate to change something.

But here’s what I think what was actually happening. I don’t think I was actually desperate. I think I became relentless. Because when my back was against the wall, I didn’t just sit there and lay down and die. I didn’t just take my full-time job and take the bonuses and take the raises and take the extra steps and go down that path, because inside of me there was that rotten decay. It was like, Don’t do it. And I know I needed it temporarily, just till I get my head above the water and, like, catch my breath. But I was still doing the healing on the side. And then when I fully committed, I became relentless. I realized I was fucking scrappy.

I’m a latchkey kid. I don’t know if anybody else on here was a latchkey kid. But part of being a latchkey kid is like, you forget your key sometimes and you literally have to check every door and every window and break into the house sometimes.

But I live in New England and I wasn’t going to get let out and left out in the cold. So, I had to get in. I had to get in. And I take that same commitment with my business. I have to help people. I get out of bed every day and I’m like, I want to. I have to, there is this need and this desire to just, like, figure it out. To apply all of my wisdom and all of my intelligence. And then I allow my intuition to lead me to that next big breakthrough in my business. But I have enough experience that I know what can work and what doesn’t work. And that is what I want to help teach you. The Accelerated Path is that it’s teaching you how to be fully committed. No Plan B, no wasting your energy on what if and in this place of worry and fear.

And I saw you guys say, like, you know, Tonika, I saw you say, like it feels suffocating and you felt like the back of your throat feels like there’s a knot in there. Denise, you said that it’s like deflating. And Melissa, you’re tired of surviving. It feels awful to have to go back on that and Ems, you’re like on the verge of that.

So I ended an eight-year relationship for similar when it comes to believing myself, yes, we have to believe in ourselves enough to get scrappy, enough to be relentless.
And the problem that where you’re at right now, which is exactly where I had been, was like, I don’t know how like, I know I want to help people. I know I want to be a coach. I know I want to be a healer, but I actually don’t know what works and what doesn’t. And so I’m trying, but I was trying and probably you’re trying at like the bare minimum level because in the back of your head you’re like, what if it doesn’t work?

So if I put in like half of the effort, I won’t be so disappointed if I don’t get positive results because I wasn’t even really trying anyway. It’s kind of like what spirit is showing me, is like when you are meeting a new group of people and you kind of put on this like fake persona. Maybe when you’re like a teenager and you’re like, whatever. If they don’t like me, it’s not even the real me anyway. And so we put up these masks, we put up these guards, and you’re doing the same thing in your business.

Where I was at, I was trying my best, but like, I didn’t have the knowledge of, like, actual strategies that worked. So what I was trying to do was what all the broke healers before me taught me, which was discounting myself, taking everybody, not narrowing down my niche, helping everybody, discounting myself constantly and not playing full out.
Yes, I’m definitely not playing full-out. Yeah, that hit me. You’re trying the bare minimum. That’s what happens, Andrea.

When I actually coach people and I listen when they say I tried to sell this thing, but it didn’t work. Again, I’m gonna do live coaching tomorrow if you guys want to join me. And so maybe you did try that. And maybe that’s true. But let’s say, how did you try? Well, I posted once. Okay. And then what? Well, nobody responded, so I didn’t post again because obviously, people didn’t want it. And to me, I’m like, what do you guys even realize how many dozens of emails I send out on a monthly basis? Because from your perspective, you probably look at me and go, oh, she’s got to figure it out. Everything works for her. She puts not out and it sells. That’s not true.

“Definitely not putting in the full effort because it discount myself due to insecurities.”Exactly.

So, imagine if you are fully confident in your gifts and your abilities, you are fully confident in the transformations that you can provide. How would you then put yourself out there?
More importantly, we have to shift the perspective from looking at ourselves. I’m worried that I’m not worthy. My insecurities, my fears. What about them? What about the people that you want to help? How do you think they’re feeling right now? You’re so consumed with yourself and your worries and your doubts. That you don’t actually get it out there to help them. That’s the truth. The truth is that this minimal effort is being put out versus the maximum effort. And half of the reason why you don’t put the maximum effort is like what I was doing, which is what I didn’t know what the maximum effort would look like. I didn’t know what that looked like until I actually did it. Until I knew what that felt like if I was to go all in like guns blazing.

And here’s what I always teach my clients is that after a launch, the way I want to feel. Is that I did everything I possibly could have to clarify my message to help people feel safe, to feel seen, so that they know what it’s like to work with me. I want to feel confident that there is not a single thing I could have done more of to get my message heard by the people who needed to hear it. Because the truth is this.

I know that whether you’re on live with me, the 15, 16, 17 people who been on live with me, or the people who are the hundreds of people who will be on the replay of this. I know that there’s somebody who’s out there and they’re suffering, and that’s what drives me to get my voice heard. It’s for you all. It’s that you all know that I’m a safe place, that you know, that I have the frameworks that work, so that you know, if you’re ready to be all in and relentless about helping people. I have loads of strategies that have worked for me, for countless clients, and they will absolutely work for you.

The best part is through The Accelerated Path. I have a full 100% money-back guarantee. If you join me, if you do the calls, if you do the homework and you put yourself out there for three months and nothing changes, I will fully refund you. So when you look at that kind of a refund policy and you go, damn, she’s really confident. She’s really confident.

So then what’s the problem? The problem is, do you believe in yourself to invest in your business? I just had a call with somebody who was saying, listen, I invest in healing work. She just came back from the chiropractor. And the truth is, is that The Accelerated Path is the program I want to do. But I’ve never invested in my business before. And I said, okay, that’s fair, and that makes sense.

So think of it this way when you go to the chiropractor. And you go to the massage therapist when you go to your natural path. You walk in the door with aches and pains and problems, and you walk out the door feeling more energetic, more aligned, maybe with less pain, less worry, less whatever. So, you know, when you walk in, you come in this way and you walk out and you get this result. But you’re not sure because you’ve never had that experience with your business before.

So it’s only natural to feel hesitation, to go, I don’t know. Am I going to get a result? I’m saying, yes, I believe you’re going to get a result. I’m promising you a result. I’m promising you with results, and I’m willing to pay you back if I don’t help you to find a way to get to that result. So the real risk is nothing. You invest the money for today that’s going to pay you back tenfold over time. You’re going to have a network of people who actually see you, who believe in you, and who aren’t going to let you fail. They’re not going to let you fall. You’re going to be able to workshop with all of us. Mastermind, get your ideas out.

We’ll tell you. Oh, that’s a really good one. Maybe tweak that so that you can put an offer out there that is not the messaging as dialed in. The offer is dialed and the price is dialed in so that you don’t have to ever feel that fear of what if it doesn’t work out? Should I create a plan B? And I’m not going to say all your fears go away because that’s not something I can promise you. Entrepreneurship is about trying and trying and trying and trying and being relentless until you get the magic formula for you.

“I’ve been missing your lives for a bit now. I’m glad my phone decided to jump on.” Me to. I can see that from your point of view. Well, yeah.

And so as a coach and as somebody who is relentless in my pursuit to help other people, I’m doing these lives, I’m sharing with you about, you know, my gift in the world is because I went through that shitty period for so long. I’m here standing, building $1,000,000 business and growing sharing with you that if I can do it, so can you. And I was broke for a real long time. So if I can get scrappy and figure it out myself and then mastermind with friends and then like get that feedback and grow and keep trying, I know that those things that I have done and the things that my clients have done can help you too.

And right now we’re in a very sensitive climate. My feeling is this, you need somebody like me who is a healer, who is a coach, who has been there and there is nobody out there like me.
There’s nobody out there. There are definitely marketers. There’s definitely, you know, get your messaging dialed in here, get your products and services over here, get your website over there. But I can tell you you can crash it without having fancy sales pages, without having, like all the different systems and bells and whistles.

But you cannot get there if you’re not willing to bet on yourself. You cannot get there if you’re not willing to invest in yourself. Because whether it’s The Accelerated Path or it’s Facebook Ads or it’s a team member or it’s new software to make your life easier or make your customers happier, you’re always going to be investing. So think about how much you’re hemming and hawing about just the simplest decision, how much time you’re wasting hemming and hawing about decisions. Either do it or don’t do it.

And here’s the other thing. I’m just going to play it like let it play out there. If this isn’t your time to be an entrepreneur and to be a coach and to be a healer, then put it aside and just stop. You are the only one who knows when it’s your time. So maybe this is the time.

Like when I said I worked for a full-time job as an executive assistant. During that time, I was only doing some clients on the side. My primary focus was my corporate job. So if that’s the season you’re in, then go for it. I’m not saying don’t get a second job or Plan B or whatever, but don’t have both. Pick one lane. Make that be your first decision. I’m either going to go all in on my healing and coaching business and go for big air and see what happens. Or I’m going to say, not right now. I’m going to just go back to corporate or waitressing or whatever it is that you do. But the middle place is what’s killing you. You’re being in indecision and it’s literally zapping your energy. It is zapping your money and it’s taking your focus away from actually doing the thing and becoming inventive. Like when we did that visualization when our back was against the wall, what are you going to do? Do something. Go all in. The steps that we’re taking are like me at best. So look back at what you want to do and see if you need help.

“I need to take this job. The message was meant for a reason right now.” So Ems, we do have payment plans and we also have scholarships. We have payment plans, we have a 4-pay and we have a scholarship. We have a scholarship for folks who are black, indigenous women of color. We also have a scholarship for folks who are experienced hardship.
If you’re in an as sub-in a sucky place socioeconomically and you’re like, I want to go all in, I want to believe myself. I take myself seriously. But it’s just, just that money thing. We have the payments and we have the scholarships. We have a guarantee. So it’s up to you.

And I will tell you that every time I’ve made an investment in myself, whether it be in any of the things I just mentioned, whether it’s a program, a course, team member, an ad, whatever it is, I always ask that when I make the investment, it come back to me. This investment come back to me tenfold. And you can do the same thing.

I’m facing eviction, but I’m willing to put everything in, so, your backs up against the wall. This is the thing. We have to take responsibility no matter where you’re at. We have like we got ourselves there and we can get ourselves out. We can when we take responsibility and we go. I’m not going to let it get this bad again. I’m not going to let it get this bad again. This is not an option for me anymore. And when we can get all of our focus in one direction, we can become creative and inventive and be like, well, what if I try this? What if I try?

Well, where do you want to spend your energy? Do you want to spend your energy on letting it just keep draining the life out of you? Or do you want to spend that energy on new ideas creatively?
Tonika and Ems, like if we were in a mastermind group, if we were on a coaching call and you said, I don’t know, I tried this thing, it didn’t work. You and everyone on the coaching call is going to do. They’re going to offer you 15 new ways that you can overcome that obstacle. Every single one of the people who’s on the call is going to offer you an idea. Offer you feedback. Offer you their time to spend like morning ideas back and forth together. They’re going to be there to support you and help you ensure your success. That’s what a mastermind group does.If you’ve never been in part of one, if you’ve never been in a group program, if you’ve never been on my program specifically, that’s what we do.

And so that’s what I want you to see tomorrow when I do life coaching is that you’re going to be in a Zoom room with complete strangers who are all cheering you on, encouraging you and believe in you and helping you to believe in yourself. And one thing I like promising you, I’m a coach, but I’m a healer first. So I’ve been doing energy healing for 23 years. So the spaces that I create, whether it is in my group calls, whether it is in my group programs, on my online community, this is a safe and sacred space. I do not take your participation lightly. I do not take your join just say oh, you’re just another number. I believe in every single person. I believe you’re here for a reason. And I’m going to hold the safe container for you to go get what you need from me. And that’s another level of responsibility.

“I haven’t chimed in on your videos for a long time and can’t believe today is the time because I decided to watch everything happens for reason. I needed to hear this.” Jacqueline That’s perfect.

Again, there is no risk. It’s a believed risk. It’s a thought, but it’s not an actual truth. And one of the things so I felt like recently my back was against the wall and it caused me to do these things again, to again revisit. Revisit my beliefs, revisit my thoughts, revisit my worries and my fears. Because if push comes to shove, will I ever stop? The answer is no.

“Thank you for. Let me join this morning’s video. Help me through all.” I’m glad, Stephanie.

The answer for me is no, it’s not just a no. It’s a resounding hell no. Nothing will stop me from doing the work I’m here to do. And that’s part of what we have to understand, is that the universe is always willing to give us what we desire. And there’s going to be tests and hurdles to say, yes, so prove it. And so maybe this is an opportunity for you to yeah, prove it. Prove that you want to help people. Don’t just say you think people are going to fall out of the sky because you said you wanted to help them. Or are you going to go let people know that you can help them? Are you going to make it abundantly clear that you can help them? And how can you help them? We have to make that hard decision. What are we going to invest our time and energy on? Worried about failure are focusing on innovation, focusing on service.

“I did a follow-up with a client we were discussing.” Okay.

So, what questions do you guys have about The Accelerated Path? This is a three-month container with me. We start in a few weeks. Like I said, there’s a payment option and there are scholarships and excuse me. Guys, a lot of energy is moving today. This is good. There are scholarships and there are payment plans. And I encourage you to take advantage of that. I fully encourage you to take advantage of that. It’s a three-month container.

We start in April, On the 5th of April, folks who join in the pan of fall, they get a bonus extra call with me before we kick off the program to really set a clear intention for what we’re here to do and to really connect and network with each other. And then there’s going to be two live calls per month with me, live, me this, but with a specific agenda.

“I have no questions. I just need the link.” Oh, sorry. Let me hop on Facebook. I’ll see if I can drop it in here. I wasn’t really prepared, I guess. Let me pop in right now.

And then there’s a list of all the calls. So it’s not just energetic. It is like a high-level mentorship mastermind had a baby with us with a seriously high-level healing program. It’s both. You’re going to get the healing. You’re going to get the coaching and direction. You’re going to get that next level of up-leveling.

I mean, sorry, I’m going to focus. Here you go. There it is oh, there’s 47 comments. I missed some comments. I’ll come back to the comments later. If you want to put a rainbow in. I will reach out to you privately as well. Just put a rainbow emoji and I’ll be happy to read you. Also, the energy has been causing a ton of freezing during this live. I’m not surprised.

So you’ll get a three-month container to live coaching, healing and coaching, teaching healing calls a month. So, we talk about the program, we give you the deliverables and then you go, but what about this? And I have a problem with that, and I’m afraid of this and I’m worried about that. That’s where the coaching comes in.

Okay, so I’ll DM you later, Ems and Jacqueline when I’m done with this, okay?

You can also reach out to me on Instagram. That’s a really easy way to get in touch with me today. So on those calls, there’s a there’s a proven framework and I’m going through a very specific set of items on each of those calls directly to move everybody forward at the same pace. So it doesn’t matter if you’re brand new or you’ve been at it for a while. It just hasn’t been working for you. Everybody starts at the same place. And again, it is a guarantee that this will work for you when you show up and do the work, it doesn’t matter. Are you going to be serious enough to do the work?

You’re very welcome.

And then on the other thing you get is a Kajabi Community Group. So you can workshop, mastermind, throw ideas out there, post your homework, get feedback on something, ask questions to me and my team and the group, because it’s not just the family show. There’s a group of people who have experience and knowledge and different things, so I don’t pretend to have all the answers for you. The group is also half of what the amazingness is. And when you join these programs, the other thing you’re going to realize is that you make connections and bonds that are like soul sisters. Soul bonds that even after my program is over, you all are going to have a relationship for years to come.

I’ve saw people on Instagram the other day who are in a group coaching program of mine two years ago, and they’re still just as close, supporting each other, excited about each other’s work. And I haven’t been in the picture for years, so it’s not even about me. It’s about who you are attracting in that container.

And if you never if you’ve never had that kind of love and support and friendships and just people who are loving you, loving on you for what you do, I can’t explain what that feels like. It’s like somebody saying, well, you don’t know the love of when you have a baby and you have never felt love like that. You’re like, sure, but then that happens and you’re like, oh my God, never loved anything before this moment. That’s the thing is like, I can’t explain what that feels like for you. You have to experience it yourself.

So I’d love to work with you. If you have questions, let me know. It is for you IF you are a coach, if you are a healer, you have been living in survival mode and you are just not seeing the results that you wish for. And you have been hemming and hawing about a Plan B for too long and you are just tired. And maybe this is your back against the wall. Maybe this is your last-ditch effort to say, I don’t know, maybe I’m just going to go all in on this healing and coaching thing and I’ll see what happens. But people do find me when they’re at that crossroads. People find me when they’re ready for a solution that works.

So again, drop a rainbow emoji if you’re wanting some more information. I did put the link in, it’s I will be back tomorrow. We’re going to send an email to folks who’ve been interested in the path through a very small, a small list that we’re going to invite you to be on the Zoom call tomorrow. If you’d like to get that private invite to be coached on Zoom, you just let me know.

Anyway, I hope you have a great, I hope this is helpful for you. If it was helpful in any way, would you please give some hearts, give some thumbs up, share it with a friend who may be in a similar situation as you. The more that we can spread this message and maybe for your friends or the people who you share on your Facebook page aren’t in the same position as you, but maybe somebody is. And they’ve been trying to find somebody like me, but they didn’t until you just shared my video with them. So you can share privately. There’s a little button on the bottom that says share or you can share publicly on your page. And I really, really appreciate that.

Thank you so much for being here. And we’ll talk to you soon. I hope to see you in the program. All right, you guys have a great day.

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Emily Aarons is a highly sought-after intuitive healer and business coach for coaches, healers, and leaders. She’s best known for clearing the energy to guide her clients out of survival mode and unlocking alignment, abundance, and exponential growth in their business. With over two decades of experience, Emily has honed her healing skills to create the first and only energy-based certification with a profit guarantee; the Integrated Energy Alignment training.

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