Transformative Journeys in Energy Healing

Transformative Journeys in Energy Healing

How To Kickstart Or Elevate Your Healing Business

For this episode of the Aligned & Unstoppable Podcast we are shaking things up! Shaunah, our Project and Community Manager here at Emily Aarons, explores the inspiring stories of three graduates from the Integrated Energy Alignment (IEA) Practitioner Certification. Each graduate—Jamie, Millie, and Adina— shares their unique personal and professional transformation journey through IEA.

Initially uninterested in entrepreneurship, Jamie joined IEA to deepen her spiritual practice and learn energy work. Millie, a budding entrepreneur, sought strategies for growth and expansion in her own business. Adina, already experienced in multiple healing modalities with a brick-and-mortar location, aimed to blend her healing work and learn business strategies to scale her practice into the online space.

Explore the stories of these practitioners and discover how IEA can help you kickstart your healing business or elevate your current practice.

Want more information about the IEA certification? Register here to save your spot for the LIVE Info Session on Tuesday, June 18th at 1 pm EST. 

The next cohort begins June 28th. Plus, gain access to up to $1,000 in cash and receive over $10,000 in bonuses when you join the Live Info Session. 

Starting A New Career

If you’re exploring a new career path and pondering whether the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Certification aligns with your aspirations, don’t miss Shaunah’s interview with Jamie LiCausi. Jamie’s journey, from having no prior energy healing or business background to now embarking on her own brand launch, is a testament to the transformative potential of the IEA program.

 

HIGHLIGHTS FROM JAMIE’S INTERVIEW:

  • Overcoming her fears to register for the IEA Certification
  • How she started booking paid practice sessions
  • Completing the IEA Certification and launching her first business

Connect with Jamie:

 

 

Deepening Your Spiritual Practice

If you’re seeking to cultivate greater trust in your intuition and enrich your spiritual journey, be sure to tune in to Shaunah’s interview with Millie Barra. As an experienced practitioner, Millie had followed Emily for a while and decided to take her business to the next level by enrolling in IEA. She knew she was ready to launch her spiritual business on a much greater scale. 

HIGHLIGHTS FROM MILLIE’S INTERVIEW:

  • Learning to follow your instincts and saying yes to your personal development 
  • How Millie began to integrate the IEA work within her current offerings
  • Refining success as a spiritual entrepreneur

Connect With Millie: 

Growing An Existing Practice

If you’re an experienced practitioner aiming to expand your established practice, don’t miss Shaunah’s interview with Adina Robinson. Adina highlights how IEA holds immense value, especially for seasoned practitioners like herself.

HIGHLIGHTS FROM ADINA’S INTERVIEW:

  • How investing in her education has paid her back in dividends
  • Learning to prioritize a demanding work schedule and growing IEA practice 
  • The exponential impact IEA business strategies have on an established practice

Connect With Adina: 

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00:00 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Welcome back to the Aligned and Unstoppable podcast, episode number 447.

00:06 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I’m your host, Emily Ahrens, and I wanted to re-release this week’s podcast episode for a few reasons. Number one, obviously, if you’re a loyal listener, you know I’ve been taking a bit of a hiatus from recording new episodes to really focus on the Spiritual Business Sessions podcast, which is my new paid podcast. But the reason why I wanted to share this one with you today is because right now more than ever, the world is desperately in need of qualified healing practitioners and I believe as a practitioner, you also deserve to be making great money. And the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training if you are familiar with it, it’s the first and only energy-based training with a profit guarantee. So if you decide that you are ready to kind of take that next step towards having a very profitable career as a spiritual business owner, iea is the place to go. We are literally setting the gold standard. Our practitioners are making thousands of extra dollars every single month, and that’s even before they graduate and get their certification, because we are requiring students to start charging at a certain place within the program. Now, if you are a practitioner, you’ve had certifications before. You can start charging whenever you’re ready, so you could actually bring in an extra stream of revenue right away.

01:33
So the reason why I wanted to bring this week’s episode back into rotation is because it is very timely. We are about to take a small group of students and fast track them to get started this June. Not only will they get to get started in June, but we have incredible incentives. So, number one, we have some amazing cash incentives to get started with the June cohort and we have three unreleased bonuses. This is just for folks who are joining in this cohort Now. I can’t speak very much to them each individually, but they are three incredible courses that are going to turn you into an expert, to help you with your business growth, to help you launch your business, to help you with learning how to intuitively run your business and as well as plan. So these are some different things that folks have really, really needed help, support with around the years, and you can jumpstart that career as a healer, as a practitioner, and have this success right there when you are ready.

02:42
So in this week’s episode you’re going to hear me talking about a free training that I used to do called Breaking Up With Broke. Now that program is no longer available. However, it has been adapted and improved upon, which is now called Activate your Abundance Mindset. It’s a free training. You can sign up for it at emilyaronscom forward slash mindset. We’ll have the link in the show notes as well as in the email that goes with this week’s episode. But if you are ready, you say like listen, emily, I’m ready to start fast tracking. I need your training, I want to learn how to run a business, I want to be surrounded by like-minded people and I really need the support. You are definitely in the right place.

03:25
So take a listen to this week’s episode. There is also the YouTube version if you’d like to watch the video and get to see the students speaking Really. This whole episode is talking about the students from their point of view and their success stories, which there are many, and even since this podcast recording, I think we’ve had at least two, possibly even three more no, I think two cohorts that started even after this group, and they’ve been even more successful than the previous ones. So if you are interested in running a profitable spiritual business, definitely check out emilyerinscom forward slash mindset for the free training. If you are ready to go right to booking that call, learning about the information session, you can go to emilyerinscom forward slash info session. That will put you right on the list. You can get the information session and then you book your call to get the cash savings off as well as those other three brand new bonuses that have not been released yet.

04:25
So let’s get into this week’s episode and share about the success of our IEA students.

04:32 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Thank you so much for being here and, as always take a screenshot of this week’s episode on your phone or your favorite listening device. Tag me on Instagram at Emily Ahrens. Let me know you’re listening. If there are any ahas, breakthroughs or questions, just hitrens. Let me know you’re listening. If there are any ahas, breakthroughs or questions, just hit me up. Let me know that you are listening and thank you so much for being here. Lots of love. We’ll see you on the next podcast episode.

04:55 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Welcome back to the Aligned and Unstoppable podcast. This one is so special. I have got a lot I mean a lot of guests with me. Today I’m bringing my actual, real students from the IEA training with me, and so we’re going to be talking about what a lot of practitioners have the problem with, which is how do we break up with the broke mindset, the broke mentality, the broke paradigm and usher in a new era for impact-driven healers, coaches and leaders. And that’s really what I’m here to do. That’s part of my mission and that’s certainly what the Integrated Energy Alignment practitioners are doing as well to spread this light. So in this episode, you’re going to hear me interview about seven of my past and a couple of current students from the IEA training. So we’re going to talk about like why did I create this training, who is it for, who is it not? For Some of the success stories, some of the big hurdles that they overcame and one of the biggest things that I wanted to share with you for anybody who’s interested in either becoming an energy practitioner or adding to your current coaching or healing roster, just to have another tool in your tool belt, this is a whole nother level of integrity the course, the curriculum, the practice sessions, it actually it pushed me outside of my comfort zone and that’s the gift that keeps on giving for the students. So every single one of the students, at some point or another, was pushed outside of their comfort zone. And if you are ready for hitting new milestones, becoming the person that you didn’t even know you were capable of, seeing how intrinsically strong and intuitive and courageous you are, you can absolutely get there through the IEA training.

06:49
The IEA training is not for the faint of heart. It’s not for everybody. We talked about the difference between the seriousness and the high level of integrity of the IEA training compared to some of those courses that people are selling for a few bucks through ads, and that level of integrity as well. So we’re going to get to all that and so much more in this week’s podcast, but before we do, this is also an audio podcast as well as a video podcast, so if you go over to emilyerinscom forward slash video, you can actually watch the entire episode over on my YouTube channel. Make sure you hit that subscribe button, because I do release my podcast episodes as well as other content here. That’s going to help you open up your intuition, connect with your guides, connect with your energy and so much more. If you are a new listener and you’re really excited, I’m so happy that you’re here. And what I also want to say it was kind of funny is that some of the practitioners share their stories that they started here too, just like you, listening to the podcast, searching for a way to get more connected with yourself, your intuition, maybe a way to grow your business, and so if you’ve been a podcast listener for a while, this episode might just be exactly the answer to your prayers if you’re wanting to go to that next level, whether it’s within yourself or with me.

08:08
Anyways, let’s get into this week’s episode, and I also have a special announcement at the end of the training. I’ll kind of want to get you to listen to it, but I also will tell you too. I have a brand new exclusive workshop coming out with the title Breaking Up With Broke Ushering a New Era of Impact-Driven Coaches, healers and Leaders. It is only available to people who are on the IEA waitlist. So if you are serious about up-leveling your life, growing a business and creating profits, head on over to emilyarenscom forward slash IEA. The link will be also in the show notes. Get on that wait list and it’ll get you that spot inside of my very exclusive workshop coming up over on June 15th. So that’s Thursday, june 15th, breaking Up With Broke Again, listen to it. I’ll give you the details at the end of the episode. Here is this week’s episode with my IEA coaches, my trainees and my graduates.

09:06 – Emily Aarons (Host)
You’re listening to the Aligned and Unstoppable podcast. I’m your host, emily Aarons. I’m an entrepreneur and highly sought after energy healer with over two decades in practice. I’m a mixture of high vibe energy and cutting edge strategy with a little dash of unfiltered real talk, making this the one and only podcast that gives you a down to earth approach to business and spirituality. Tune in each week to get out of the stress of overworking so you can build a brand in alignment with your soul’s purpose. If there’s one thing I’ve learned the hard way, it’s that you have to stop looking outside yourself for the answer and start looking within. We all have a unique path and it’s time you start trusting in yourself. The truth is, you already have everything you need. You just need to learn how to access it. Now let’s dive in.

10:00 – Emily Aarons (Host)
It’s time you experience, business and soul alignment. Hey podcast listeners, welcome back. I am so excited. This is an episode that has been a long time coming and I do really mean that with everything in me. I have brought together a stellar group of students from my IEA training that’s integrated energy alignment training. I’ve invited them to be here both past students who have graduated as well as some current students who are about to graduate and I wanted them to be here because I felt like this is a great conversation to have with all of them present, versus me just telling you what it is. So today’s episode, we’re going to talk about really what it is to break up with being broke and to tap into your own energy, your own skillset, building a business and really how these folks who are here in this room with me, how they got to join the IEA training. They’re going to be sharing from their own words not from mine of their experience and their background. So please, welcome them all. I’ve got Carla Miller, jamie Lacazi, shannon Miller, allison Delatore, emily Pearl, susie Almeida and Millie Barra, so welcome them all. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All of you are waving. For those of you who are listening to the podcast, please also check out my YouTube channel, so emilyerinscom forward slash YouTube, you will get a full view of everybody here that I’m looking at, so you can kind of get the feel of like the energy in the space as well.

11:36
So before I get into kind of interviewing my friends here, I want to talk about sort of where IEA came from. So I’ve been doing energy work for the last 23 years. I was trained in polarity therapy and other advanced energy trainings and Akashic records and distance healing, and it was in January of 2022 where I had actually just had COVID. I was super sick and I pretty much felt like I hit my rock bottom and I bottomed out totally. And when I woke up the next morning I started listening to a couple of my own meditations that cleared my energy, got me back feeling amazing, and it was like I snapped my finger and suddenly this whole program was like ready to come in and be delivered. So that morning I was like, hey, andrew, my husband, I’m like, please take the children for a few hours, I have some channeling to do. And I basically just wrote out the entirety of the framework for the IEA training, which I will say is pretty genius, except for the fact that I had no idea how to actually put that all together. That came through connecting with Amanda Pickering, who is now my COO. I hired her at the time just to be the project manager, but fortunately for me, she’s still here. I’m so, so grateful.

12:55
So the background was basically I had brought this program together because I knew practitioners that needed the business skills, who had been doing other certifications Maybe they did breathwork or hypnotherapy or Reiki or other sorts of certifications but didn’t have the business skills and also the people who maybe just wanted a career change. They wanted to get deeper into their spiritual practice or deeper into healing work, and this was completely a new avenue for them. So, by a show of hands, raise your hand. If the IEA training was the first ever brand new to healing modality of this sort, raise your hands friends. So Jamie, carla, wiggling kind of how about? Susie, were you, is this new for you? Yeah, so for you as well, yeah. And then for Shannon and Allison, emily and Millie you guys all had a lot of training. You’ve been through multiple sort of. So the ladies who’ve had all the trainings would you mind sharing some of the trainings that you’d already been through that you maybe still utilize?

14:01 – Millie Barra (Guest)
Yeah, I’ll go. So I’m a certified emotion code and body code practitioner, along with EFT tapping, so emotional freedom technique tapping and I had worked in my own practice for about two years. I entered it in 2020. And really, though, I feel like those modalities that I use while they are in the energy medicine field right and working with your energy field, they were very like I had charts to lean on and like very tangible for me versus what Emily offers, which is really trusting my own gifts and my own abilities, my intuition, and it’s just been really beautiful to see how I’ve been able to kind of bridge both of them but really settle into my calling as an energy worker.

14:50 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, I love that and I mean that’s why the word integrated is in the name is it is designed to be able to blend into other modalities as well. Thanks, Millie. What about Emily? Have you found like you can blend the work with, like you do, Akashic records and so many other things? But how do you feel it’s been for you in your practice?

15:10 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
coaching and I’ve learned energy work through many different modalities through Reiki, through the Akashic record work. I’ve worked with Barbara Brennan like the hands of light style healing, so with integrating it into the IEA certification it has, it’s integrated really well. The biggest reason I really wanted to go into IEA is for the online business training to learn how to put an online business together. But also I really wanted to learn how to talk about the energy work more like with my clients and be able to verbalize like what I was feeling and what was happening, and I definitely feel like I’ve been able to integrate that really well into this work.

16:05 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I love that and that’s like part of the biggest challenge with practitioners who aren’t making the money they desire is simply like articulating your offer, articulating the transformation. And from day one, you know I remember you guys all going through the program like how do I tell people I have these practice sessions? What exactly is this? It’s like that’s where we start, versus a lot of times after certifications are through, you’re like now, how do I get people? So that’s also what makes IEA so different and so special is that you’re starting practice sessions from really day one and being able to articulate what you do, how you do it, who it’s for, who it’s not for, and the transformation that’s possible is a lot of the work that goes into, you know, being able to sell yourself, being able to talk in session and outside of session, really be able to market yourself.

16:58
So other thing is that the IEA training, which is different from I mean, I don’t know if you guys get served a lot of ads for other courses or certifications. I’ve been seeing a lot of them like get breath work for only $17, be certified crystal bowl healer and like these different certifications, and then it’s like at a bargain, basement low, low rate. I’m curious what you guys feel about that. Do you feel like that those low prices keep the integrity of the training, or do you feel like they’re just like trying to appeal to masses and just like pushing things out there? What do you, what do you guys feel about that?

17:34 – Carla Miller (Guest)
I actually did one.

17:35 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Oh, yeah, tell me about that, carla.

17:38 – Carla Miller (Guest)
Well, after doing IEA, I was very disappointed and I have actually invested invested in another coach to learn. I feel it’s more about just getting the people and getting the sell. Like it was a a rakey course and we just watched the modules and she did the see. I can’t remember what exactly and then afterwards.

18:06
So we got like an initiation, but then afterwards there was no like feedback from her. There was no way to ask questions, you to email them and you you didn’t have this connection with other people. You know to converse about what were coming up for you or what you’d experienced, and you know getting other people’s views and things. So, yeah, I think you set the bar so high I’m really gonna struggle to go on another course with other people.

18:32 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So, yeah, I am not a fan though not that every low course I’m sure is not the same but my experience wasn’t very good yeah, which is unfortunate, and I think thank you for saying that and I think that’s also been what’s been so challenging for me as the course creator is setting such a high bar, setting such a high standard for integrity to hold the healing art, but also to be able to hold the integrity to hold my mission, which is to help impact the lives of millions of practitioners, to help create wealth for them. Impact the lives of millions of practitioners to help create wealth for them. And if I’m setting such a low bar and letting anybody in the door, I’m not really caring about their practice sessions or if they are practicing or anything to even give them the time to answer their questions. That’s just that’s setting such a low standard. So for me, setting this high standard, it does require a lot more of me, it requires a lot more of my team, but that’s what we want and part of that is to uphold this level of seriousness.

19:30
And you know, I know you guys have gone through your ups and downs to complete the course. Does anybody raise your hand? At any point in the IEA training did you feel like, oh shoot, like I don’t know if I can make it, I don’t think I can finish this. This is like pretty rigorous.

19:45 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
So the majority.

19:46 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Okay, all right, everybody but Allison. Thank you, allison. Can you tell me about that, because?

19:53 – Allison Delatore (Guest)
everybody else raised their hand. Well, I think I’ve done so many certification classes. I’ve never done any of the low cost ones and at least I think it partially has to do with me as well that when I set my mind to do something, I’m going to do it. I’m not going to do it half-assed and I’m going to complete it Like that’s who I am. So, and having done so many other certification courses that required practice sessions and paid practice sessions and and all of that, it was kind of like, oh, this is totally manageable. I love that.

20:24 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Well, thank you and like, really thank you, because when you first signed up, I was like, okay, so there are going to be practitioners who are really dedicated, who are really here to take it seriously. So you joining was evidence that there was more people out there for me. That’s what you also gave me that little gift too, because I really believe that part of the reason that we have this like broke healer, broke coach thing that’s going on, this narrative that’s going on, is partly to do with these cheap courses that have no integrity behind them and people don’t actually care if you go through them, if you complete them, if you practice. If you don’t, it doesn’t really matter. And so it’s like just bring some more people in here, and so you also are in the minority in that most people who do online courses do not complete them. So you have the mindset of like, if I’m going to do it, I’m going to do it. I feel the same way, I’m the same If I sign up, like I’m going to try to do 17 modules in a day and like I want to go through it as fast as possible.

21:27
That’s a character flaw of my own, but really part of what is so special is that we do take the time to have an integration week. So basically the formula of IEA we have three weeks on, one week off and every single month the students are required to do a certain number of practice sessions, single sessions, and then at a certain point in the program they start to build up their confidence a little bit and they start to get a little bit more excited about what they’re doing and knowing what they’re doing. So then we start to charge for our sessions and I remember so. Before I get into that, actually I’m feeling like I want to back up. So the folks of, I would say, jamie and Susie, folks who had never done any sort of training before, when you had to start doing practice sessions, they were required. What kind of came up for?

22:15 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
you, the practice sessions were interesting, I would say. To kind of like backtrack a little bit is, I found the hardest part of the course the first couple of weeks where and even our first like session where we did energy work on each other not even clients yet Like I was so nervous. But then eventually I like warmed up and got into it and that’s what you, that’s what I was here for was to like learn how to tap into my intuition. And so when doing the practice sessions I was scared but I kind of just gave up that like gave up that control and kind of tapped into my body, like you taught us to, and just rolled with it. And so after the first time, after the first round, I did 10 sessions. I was like, okay, I got through it. And then I saw the next month that people were returning for more sessions and so that was definitely a confidence booster that like, okay, I can get through the rest of this course, let’s keep going.

23:08 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So it was really fun and I remember when you started to, you’re like I don’t even know what I’m doing here and this is probably not for me. I don’t know if it’s is it for me. I don’t know what I’m even here for. I remember you were like that.

23:21 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Yeah, because I work in forensic science. And how I found you actually, emily and you know this story is that I was in like a dark space. You know, my grandfather passed away. I found out I didn’t want to be a doctor anymore. I was having trouble in some relationships that I was had and I found your podcast randomly.

23:42
I loved your picture and so the little icon you have on your podcast and I was like let’s. I loved your picture and so the little icon you have on your podcast and I was like let’s, try this one out. And from the minute I listened to you I was like this is it right? I was like I want to work with her. And this has been the whole training course IEA was offered and I was like this is it? And yeah, when I enrolled in your course, I had no intention of being a practitioner. I solely signed up to learn how to control my own energy and really listen to my mind, my body, my soul, what it needs, because my entire life I’ve only ever been told what I need. And so my mindset going into your training was just to learn about myself and I loved the. I ended up finding out that I loved this field of work and I enrolled in the coach training. For that reason, I love it.

24:30 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I’m curious, anybody else, anybody else want to share their story of like? I haven’t heard from you, shannon, yet either sort of what. What drew you to IEA initially?

24:39 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Kind of along the same lines as Jamie. I actually came across your podcast and so I was like, okay, well, let’s listen to this. And so in listening to you, that kind of got me interested in a lot of the work that you did. And I signed up for M&A and then was like, okay, well, she’s got an IEA, so let’s do that. And starting into the program, I was like, well, I don’t know if I can, you know, afford to do this. And I was like you know what I’m going to do this for me, I’m just going to sign up. And it was like the minute that I signed up, it was like, oh, and, by the way, here’s the flow that you, the cashflow you were asking for, to pay for it. So I was like score.

25:19 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Oh my gosh, what happened?

25:25 – Shannon Major (Guest)
I love hearing these stories. I never get old. What happened to? What shifted? I guess for me it was my whole mindset of, okay, well, you know, I’m not interested in the field that you know I’m currently in. So you know, I want to kind of dive in and go ahead head straight into energy work. And so I was like, okay, I’m going to sign up for this certification. And I was like, okay, you know, in the back of my mind I’m like, well, I don’t know how I’m going to pay for this. You know, I just let’s just sign up for the. I think it was like monthly payment plans and I was like, okay, all right.

25:56
And so as soon as I had made the decision for myself to do it and sign up, then all of a sudden, you know, the government was like, oh, you overpaid on your taxes, here you go. And I was like score. So. So, yeah, so pretty much that refund, pretty much paid for the certification in full. So, oh my God.

26:19 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I remember, I do remember when you signed up, when you started to payments and then you said is it okay if I also pay in full which is like any course creator, by the way, it’s like your favorite thing that anybody ever emails you. You’re like would it be okay? Of course it would be okay, get over here, anybody else. Have an interesting story like that, when you first signed up, having sort of something shift or miraculous happened for you, not knowing how to pay, and then suddenly something happened.

26:47 – Millie Barra (Guest)
I worked with Emily within a few different capacities one-on-one, and then also now in IEA and every single time is like amazing, where I have, like these new clients that come out of the woodwork that I have no idea how they found me, like I have. I had four new clients that were referred to me by a woman I’ve never met, have no idea how she found me, and she just started sending me clients after I signed up for your stuff and I was like, okay, I’ll take it.

27:17 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Oh yes, didn’t that happen to you, jamie? Something like that happened to you you.

27:22 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Recently someone found me through your Facebook platform. Okay, she scrolled through because I don’t think I’m not a trainer or practitioner anymore so I don’t have training sessions. But she said she was going through some stuff and she wanted to see you. She knew you were offering sessions for our sessions and she was like scrolling way down and she found me and she signed up and booked a session and then from there she got two other people to book sessions with me. So it’s ever since working with you, emily, and doing this IEA and like tapping into myself, like things have just been coming to me, like I think it and I receive it, love it.

28:00 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So good and I was going to mention that too is that part of what was so genius that I literally I cannot take credit for. This is what’s channeled through was part of the practitioners practice sessions. We share their booking links within my Mastering Ascension paid community of people who like energy work. That’s why they’re there. They trust me and they’re interested in getting more healing, and so basically it’s free advertising to people who are already primed and ready, who would like to have some work by them. So every single month we promote their links, which is really a huge benefit to the members, but also a great way for the practitioners to get practice sessions with people who they don’t necessarily know and wouldn’t otherwise be able to like. Bring people in, because it’s not always the easiest things.

28:48 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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29:17
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29:27 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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29:37 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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29:46 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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29:52 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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30:00 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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30:54 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I was going to ask you Susie too, around how it felt to start to start doing practice sessions after, like you know, starting the program Me.

31:02 – Suzy Almeida (Guest)
I it was. It was scary. First of all, you know when, when you’re, when you don’t do like a certification and you’re not sure of your own intuition, and then you’re faced with. Well, now you’ve got to tune into your trust, your intuition first of all, and do a session. It was nerve wracking and trusting my intuition has been the biggest thing with. But with the certification I, it’s growing, it’s getting 10 times better.

31:29
You know your program. It just the guide, the way it guides you into trusting and believing in yourself, and the practice sessions. It just allows you to expand. Uh, now, yeah, I made cards. I’m trying to get out there. But the last two weeks has been a bummer for me because I allowed someone to literally put me down and it just stayed with me. But knowing what you’ve taught us in the course, I know that it will happen and it is. It’s like Jamie says, like everyone says it’s changing your mindset and your perception and believing in yourself and the way I feel. With the certification from you, emily, you know that you have guidance, you know that you have help.

32:14
You know that you can turn to your team for help or answers or practice which allowed me to grow as a person, because I was in a dark place before I even and I it was like Shannon, I was on your MNA and your the. I remember listening to your first meditation and I cried, but it, this is where, like, how I realized how much I grew, and that was just listening to your podcast. And then, once you came out with the IEA certification, I had to do it. Yeah.

32:43 – Emily Aarons (Host)
How? How did you decide, like what was it for you that you wanted to made?

32:47 – Suzy Almeida (Guest)
you want to join IEA, knowing what like knowing that I already had like intuition and I wanted to know how could I really tap into who am I and what am I here for? Looking at, like you know, those cheaper courses, yeah, like your certification to me stood out because there was so much to it that I was like I just have to do it this. It was just the right time for me to grow.

33:12 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I’m glad that you decided so okay, how about? For the real fun was when I forced you guys to charge for your sessions. No longer, everybody and anyone is like it’s free and everyone’s like it’s like a party. We’re raving out in the backyard, we’re barbecuing, there’s music on, there’s confetti somewhere, and then all of a sudden you’re like okay, so also, we’re going to start charging. And you look behind, you’re like where did everybody go? What happened? Anybody want to share a little fun, little fun story of their own about that?

33:47 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Because I know that it definitely happened to every single one of you. I would have to say that when we went from free sessions to charging, I had a whole WTF moment because, you know, here you had all these people lining up for free sessions and then, once you started charging, it was like crickets. So I kind of had to get inventive and kind of come up with a strategy of okay, well, you know, let’s figure out what works and what doesn’t work.

34:16 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So what worked for you? What? Tell me what didn’t work? Anybody want to shoot a bad tip, no. What were you doing at first that wasn’t working, and what did you learn to start doing?

34:26 – Shannon Major (Guest)
I would probably have to say, when I first started putting myself out there, it was kind of like the okay, this is what I’m doing, do you want to sign up? And you know it was kind of like. And then, once I kind of got a feel for you know the type of sessions that I was constantly having and the things that were coming up like you know clarity or purpose then you kind of were I was able to kind of put I don’t want to say marketing, but kind of put myself out there.

34:56 – Emily Aarons (Host)
It is marketing and being able to really articulate the transformation that you are delivering for people for sure. Yeah, cause, and also I want to kind of give you a little high five for something else that you did, because and one of the coaching calls you came in with this problem and I said do you mind if I take a look at your Facebook page? And when I looked at it, I saw sort of a static image and other beautiful quotes and other meat like little pretty memes and flowers, and I said, all right, so here’s the first problem. You’re a personal brand. Now, this is not to call out Shannon by herself. This is all a lot of people and I’m sure there’s a lot of people listening right now who are like feeling that they’re being called out. I do this with love, I really do.

35:43
When you are a personal brand and you show a lotus flower or a quote, how are people supposed to connect with you? They can’t, and so this is how we hide in plain sight. And, shannon, I said something to that degree of you know I see you, but I don’t see you. This is a. This is technically a page to promote your work. However, I don’t see you anywhere on any of these pictures. How am I going to work with you? Within the day you got your hair done, you took the most gorgeous selfie with your eyes looking right at the camera, just so, and it was like boom, there she is, and it’s like being so open and so coachable that started to open up people also coming in to say yes for you, I feel.

36:30 – Shannon Major (Guest)
I’d have to totally agree. Yeah, cause changing the picture and everything.

36:34 – Emily Aarons (Host)
it was like, oh hey did you have any resistance when you finally like were very visible, like it was actually you on there?

36:42 – Shannon Major (Guest)
At first I did because I, with the belief system that I at the time was working through, I had a really hard time with being seen. So I had quite a bit of resistance. At first I was like, well, you know, I don’t know if I want to put my picture out there. And then finally, you know, I kind of sat with it and I’m like you know what, I’m just going to do it. So I did all this stuff and I was like a lot of people.

37:10 – Emily Aarons (Host)
You know we we’re afraid of the judgment of others, we’re afraid of really being out there, and these things can keep us small, keep us sort of in our little area for far too long and even sometimes, like one of the things, not to skip ahead. But one of the things we were talking about at the recent retreat that we all did was around, you know, just speaking directly to the customer who is there who wants to work with you. You know, are we giving them a lot of colors and images and lots of words and that’s confusing them and overwhelming them, or are we able to clearly connect with them and give them exactly what they want? Maybe it’s a short, quick win, maybe it’s a paid session, maybe it’s another something, but there’s so much work that we can always do on that. And I want to share Carla’s story, because I remember, carla, when we increased prices, that was definitely a block for you and you overcame it like like nothing else, so I would love for you to share that story.

38:05 – Carla Miller (Guest)
So I overcame blocks at every single module. I was sat there in the sessions being like, oh my God, I can’t do this next bit. How am I going to go from 10 to 20 minutes to 20 to 30? And all the women and Emily were just so amazing that when we got to charging, I think we all went in really low, didn’t we with the prices. And no, it was crickets again and no one was signing up and I just was like I need to start showing up as the person that I want to be, as the energy practitioner I want to be. So what price do I want to charge? And we I think we did a what feels kind of thing, didn’t we, of how far we could push ourselves, and so I took the 60 pounds off and I went in at 250. And that’s when I got my first client sign up and we were all like, oh my god. And then she ended up signing up for a course of sessions, referred somebody else and they signed up and it just snowballed from there.

39:13 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So yeah, like that kind of blew us all away. So basically you were charging 60 pounds and you’re like, screw that, yeah, 50, it’s 250. It’s actually 250. And that’s the thing is like I give you guys full flexibility to set your own prices. I offer a suggested sliding scale when you’re first starting your prices and I encourage you slash, require you to increase your prices later on in the program, and also that’s it’s completely up to you, you can set them. I don’t say it’s a sliding scale, you just do the increase. So it’s completely up to you, you can set them. I don’t say it’s a sliding scale, you just do the increase. So it’s really interesting that you say that like I didn’t get any bites at 60 until I raised it to 250. Then people started to bite. So I’m curious, why do you feel that happened?

39:58 – Carla Miller (Guest)
because the energy that I gave off that’s a an amount like we better be showing up with our a-game. We better be showing up like we mean this and not that. I was ever trying not to, but I was hiding away. And then I was like showing up as psychic energy worker, carla, and it took me so long to say that. And once I went in there I was like that’s who I, who I am, that’s what I am now and yeah, just, it was a whole energy shift.

40:29 – Emily Aarons (Host)
It’s the massive shift, yeah, and it was like this you’re like I sold one and then I sold a five pack and then I got another one. It’s like, oh, okay, okay, awesome, so so good, I love that. Thank you for sharing that. Anybody else have a fun little story they want to share about when you went from free to paid or paid to increasing your prices?

40:50 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Well, like everybody else, I had difficulty you know crickets when it started charging, but I think it was more of a self lesson, of self-worth for me. You know showing up and saying, like I can do this, like I am an energy worker, I’m going through the training for it, so it was really just valuing me and I just started showing up and telling people more about it. And meeting someone in the grocery store yeah, I do energy work and you know really standing my ground now to tell people what I do.

41:19
So it was more like a lesson of me, like I was holding myself back.

41:22 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, that sounds like what Carla is like really owning who you are and what you do. Did you guys feel like that? For you, anyone else feel like that? It’s like really stepping in to own what you do as a practitioner, as a coach, as a healer. Everyone’s smiling and nodding at me. They can’t see your faces for some of them, so we’ll just imagine they’re there. That’s what they’re all doing. They’re all smiling politely and nodding at me. Does anybody want to share a particular milestone or a breakthrough or aha, or like what was your favorite part of being in the IEA training? I know for a lot of you who had the training you wanted to come for the business stuff or maybe for the community, or maybe for the camaraderie or having someone to ask questions to. I’d love to hear from you guys. I guess I’ll call on you Millie, emily, ok, hey, and Allison Great, all right, we got people who want to talk to me, all right.

42:17 – Allison Delatore (Guest)
Go for it, gals. So I already had an established business for several years. When I jumped into IEA and I came in really for the business, I was already a professional intuitive you know I’m an advanced Akashic record practitioner. I was already doing the stuff.

42:34
But I really wanted to take the business stuff to the next level and one of the things that I loved about the IEA business part was like it really goes into like the nitty gritty piece right. So like I know how to make a meditation or an activation or an attunement, but what’s the best equipment to use for it Like little stuff like that that maybe doesn’t get covered in other business courses. And even some of the really detailed stuff about social media and you know the algorithms, which, granted, they’re always changing, but how the algorithms work and how you could inadvertently be blocking your stuff from being seen because you’re doing something that the algorithm doesn’t like right. So I found all of that stuff to be immensely helpful as a small business owner, just to have that support and that the nitty gritty details about how to do things that you don’t always get in other courses.

43:32 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, and I will say that the social media part was the hardest thing to teach. Well, not every everything was the hardest thing to teach, but that part in particular was really challenging as to not go into training how to use the platform, knowing that in five minutes after I teach it it’s going to change, but really teaching you know the overall and like what is the growth strategy for these platforms and who is on them, and how to connect with your soulmate client and connect where they are versus just where you are currently, which I think you’ve done a really great job of really being visible on all the different platforms that your soulmate client is. I think you do great. Yeah, thank you, You’re welcome, Emily. I saw you unmute yourself. Come on back.

44:15 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
My favorite part of the training was the retreat. I felt like I left the retreat having just like a really good overview of what my business looks like, from start to finish. I can see the bigger picture now and I can see exactly like how different things will come together to create passive income and to really snowball off of there. So I yeah, I really love the retreat. I really love getting to meet the community. That was really fun. And I really loved getting to meet the community. That was really fun. And I really liked the strategy and the planning. I feel really good about things. That was really awesome. I’m sorry you had.

44:52 – Emily Aarons (Host)
We had such a fun moment when my team member, shauna, shared that she saw you and your husband, maddie, who’s also a business partner. We were doing an M&A call and this word came out of my mouth. I’m like is this a word? And you and Maddie I’m new You’re like that is a word and I will tell you about it. It’s from this thing and I’m like, oh damn, which got like kind of the eyes on you.

45:12
So Shauna like found your Instagram, then went to your website and then she knew we were we’re all at the retreat talk on this. And she’s like I know that you have a session for this and a session for that. And I go so did you buy? And she’s like I didn’t. I’m like, ooh, this is amazing. We got, we all got so excited, because it’s not often that you have a potential customer in front of you who is willing to tell you why they didn’t buy. Yeah, that was really awesome. That was so much fun.

45:46
I, we all geeked out about it and through that exercise, we got to understand what does that first touch point need to be when you are connecting with people and they’re they’re actually interested enough to go to your website. What can you give them? And at first it was like maybe I can give them this meditation I’ve already made, and she was like and then I forget exactly what you came up with together, but she was like I need that, I want that. It was like, okay, we will make this. And then, understanding, you know how to be clearer on your website communication and, you know, really directing people to the next step. I mean it was so powerful to see that and to see, like where you can go after. That is like so much fun, because a lot of times we’re just in the here and now, like I just need to get a couple clients this week, and we’re not thinking about the broad picture and the impact that we truly could create through the work. Uh, which I thought you just like really opened up so much at the retreat.

46:42 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, we did have fun, we definitely had fun. But the um, but yeah, I mean I’ve been implementing all of the things that I’ve learned over. Well, I mean we spent days in the car to finally make it to Arizona and then now I’ve spent literally like probably about 16 hours yesterday on the website. So my gosh going a minute and I can really see the bigger picture, and so I’m feeling really good. Oh, good, I’m so happy.

47:13 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, we had some really great moments at the retreat where it was a blend of hands on healing. We all got to do a little hands on work because you know, being on Zoom, you don’t get to put your hands on people. We got to do advanced aura work, advanced pendulum work, the strategy. We did a lot of intention setting at the very beginning and it was fun. Every single day we’re like checking off every single one of the intentions that we had individually as well as as a collective. And then we had days where we really focused on strategy and breaking through our fears, and I’m not going to say what we did because I don’t want to ruin everybody in the future.

47:52
All I will say is that the women who did this exercise also enjoyed a very long cold plunge at the end of the day. So that day was one of the most transformative days for everybody on so many levels, because they were breaking through their blocks, they were focused on, like on their strategy, they were opening up to new levels in their business and they were challenging themselves with this like cold immersion thing all of a sudden, and it was just really phenomenal to see everybody shift in such a tremendous way and really connect. I mean, you know, one of the things that IEA does, which I’m sure you guys can speak to, is is building this network. You know, when you’re not confident in yourself or your practice and like where is it going, what am I doing? And like having people who see you and who believe in you and who are willing to say, yeah, we can practice on each other, or you know what I love, that thing that you just did is sometimes makes all the difference.

48:46
So I would love to hear from you guys you know how you felt about the community within IEA. Did you feel supported? Did it feel empowering? Did it feel like just another course and nobody’s paying attention to you. I’d love to hear from you. Feel free to unmute just go for it.

49:03 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
For it, I loved the community. I think that was one of the best parts, you know, because in the beginning I knew like I wasn’t confident in myself and even during the sessions, you know, the people in the training were like you can do this, like good job, and they were like work me up to believe in myself as well and we have friendships now that you know, even after the training, we’re connecting, we’re doing um collaborations together, you know it’s fun and those relationships will last forever oh for sure.

49:34 – Carla Miller (Guest)
Yeah, I agree like we’ve made some really good friends. It was nice to share things and have someone to back these things that were coming up that you might not necessarily wanted to talk about in the session, and then they would encourage you to share it once they’d helped you work through it. And, like Jamie says, we’ve done sessions together me, you and Shannon and it’s just been so much fun to like to do that as well, and especially when we were first getting out there and you felt a little bit more scared to have our little wing women with us doing it together.

50:09 – Shannon Major (Guest)
It was so nice yeah, I really loved the support that our whole group had because we were able to, you know, bounce ideas off of one another. We had sessions together. You know we would send messages and be like, hey, you know, what do you think about this. Or you know we would send messages and be like, hey, you know, what do you think about this. Or you know, if there was something that came up or a question, you know we were, you know and still are very much there, you know, to support everybody. So, yeah, I really love to the love and support that we, you know, have and still have.

50:40 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
And then you get to meet in person at the retreat.

50:44 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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52:38 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So I feel like it’s been really nice to get this full picture and part of the IEA training that I didn’t know was coming at the beginning when it first came through, was the coaching training, and that came through sort of near like the midway point I would say for the first round. And it made sense because the first round it’s been mostly myself and my team, you know, getting all the calls and all the links and making sure that the things are getting done. And Amanda is like the woman who is just like the master of all things in the business, and I don’t say that lightly, I do truly mean that if it weren’t for Amanda I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again If it weren’t for Amanda, this program wouldn’t be what it is today, both with the systems, with keeping people accountable, with moving everybody forward through the program, making sure everything is done and to just hold the space. I mean she’s a beautiful energy to hold the container, not just like. She’s not like a stickler, like poking people and you know me and she’s wonderful and she brings this great energy to the space. She’s wonderful and she brings this great energy to the space.

53:52
And when we realize that there is like another level that’s ready to be out. There is the coach training, which means that we take the graduates from the first level and we teach them more behind the scenes of how I literally run my business, how the systems literally work, how to help students, how to support them, how to be a coach and all of the different pieces that really go together to keep students on track and moving forward through the program. So I would love to hear from some of the coach trainees Shannon and Jamie, you know you guys have been through the coach training and are about to start coaching. How did you feel the coach training is different than the initial IEA training?

54:39 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
It’s definitely more business, right.

54:41
So IEA, the practitioner training, was half energy, half business.

54:45
But this is like really, like you said, behind the scenes work or like the platforms and the things that the practitioners don’t see, like the scheduling and making sure everybody’s on track and a lot of that work. So that’s like very interesting too, because you know, when I was in the practitioner training, I would just email Amanda and say like I’m having this problem, can you? And then like now to see on her end, like all the work that she had to figure out, I was like Whoa, like Amanda, I’m so sorry I put you through this, but yeah, so it’s very interesting. And then also like it’s taught me a lot about like I need personally more structure, and so it’s given me a little bit of like an outline of how to structure my days, my schedules. You know what am I going to do on this day, how I’m going to make sure that my clients are keeping track. So it’s actually helped me a little bit more versus the one session and like that’s it like following up and more of a journey than you know a visit.

55:41 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Awesome. How about for you, Shannon?

55:43 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Yeah, I’d have to totally agree with pretty much all of what Jamie said as well. As you know being able to see how you can support new students that are coming in into the certification and know you know being able to see how you can support new students that are coming in into the certification and know you know the different ways that you can help them along. And you know realizing just what a wonderful human being Amanda really is. For sure, yeah, so, and being able to see definitely the business, the backend of it, to kind of see all the ins and outs of how everything works.

56:19 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, there’s two intentions behind that. Number one so you can become a coach and move people through my program. The second one is so that you can be a coach and move your own students through your own programs, because what we created has not been created before in the way that we created it. There’s not a template, there is not a plug and play system, there is certainly not a software that you just get everything all within a bundle and you just plug in what you need and it just goes. It’s all been manually done.

56:51
And what’s so special is like when we built IEA, it was with the intention of this has got to be done. From scale and a lot of the things that we do as business owners, we think of like the here and now, of like the first five people and the first 10 people, but like what if it was 500 and 1000? Can this system still work and still be manageable with that volume? And so when you keep that in mind, it makes you think bigger, it makes you make different choices, and so part of the training is also to bring you into that thought process and to think bigger for yourself and your own business. How can you apply what we did and how we marketed and how we do the backend in your own business as well, and that’s just. It’s like it’s just a deeper level of expansion, which I love, and taking people through that customer value journey is the final piece of your program that you’re gonna get.

57:44
I wanna wrap this up because I know we’ve had a lot to share and I know we briefly talked about the retreat, we briefly talked about the coaching training. Is there anything else Like if somebody were on the fence around joining IEA? I would love to hear what if they were asking you for your advice. You know, I don’t know if I should do it. Is it worth the investment? What do I do? I’d love to hear your feedback.

58:08 – Carla Miller (Guest)
If you’re thinking about doing it, do it. You know it’s life changing. If this is what you want to do, just do it, yeah.

58:18 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
I agree. I agree it’s worth the investment. You know, stop spending the money on you know the Instagram ads and really invest in this because you won’t be mistaken, it was so much fun.

58:33 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Yeah, you learned so much about yourself in the process. It’s absolutely mind blowing.

58:38 – Millie Barra (Guest)
For me. I know I went into it going okay, I really want to cause, I love Emily and like I want to do anything that Emily does. But I was like I already have a practice, I already am certified, like do I really need one more certification? And then I’m like, and do I really have the money? Like I don’t have the money to like spend for this.

58:57
And for me it was like but no, like I would do this hands down if that wasn’t an issue thing it has not only helped me as a practitioner, like with my own energy, because I kept saying to Emily I’m like I don’t know why I’m not able to get like fully booked, I don’t know why I’m not getting more clients. And that really struck with me and she’s like, well, you need to like make sure that you are taking care of your energy, and the boundaries and things that she helps you set are priceless, because you know it’s kind of again, you can’t pour from an empty cup, and so really making sure that you as a practitioner are holding yourself up and just the knowledge and the skills and the connections alone. Also, like you know, return on investment. The connections I’m making are leading me to other things too that are bringing in more revenue.

59:48
So, yeah, I think it was the best decision I made even though I have already stopped you know, it just adds additional stuff and just makes me even better.

59:58 – Allison Delatore (Guest)
I agree with what all of the ladies have said, and especially like what Millie just said. You know, like I already have the stuff, but it is another tool in the toolbox that can be used as a standalone thing or it can be used in conjunction with other tools that you have. And I think, especially if you’re someone that already has a business but is a typical solopreneur who’s in the state of normal solopreneur overwhelm that can happen when you’re trying to juggle everything under the sun. I think it’s helpful having that added business expertise. That just makes things easier. When someone just tells you what to do, like this is how you do it. Right, it’s like the smallest thing, but it makes such a difference. So I would say, just let it be choiceless, you know, and if your inclination is to do it, but right, just do it anyway.

01:00:57 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Just do it anyway. Emily or Susie, you want to share?

01:01:00 – Suzy Almeida (Guest)
Share. Yeah, I would say, do it. You learn a lot, not only about business, but you learn a lot about yourself. You learn a lot about what you can give and what, how you can help others grow, like your whole perception of how life should be changed, like, especially for me, how to change your thoughts, how to trust your intuition, how to manifest. And it’s about you know, leading with your heart and giving all that you’ve got and yeah, yeah, totally, it was worth every penny. If you’re, don’t, be on the fence, just do it.

01:01:38 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Thanks. Well, thank you all for being here. I truly admire all of you individually as amazing practitioners and women. I love that you got to do this podcast with me. I love that we got to get together and me, I love that we got to get together and I’m really excited for what’s to come and for folks who’ve been interested in the training, you can get more information at emilyaronscom forward slash IEA and I am doing a brand new training just for folks who are on the wait list.

01:02:07
So if you are considering joining but you’re like not so sure, I am doing an exclusive workshop called breaking up with broke. It’s ushering a new era of impact driven coaches, healers and leaders. You can sign up for the wait list for IEA and we will send you the invitation to that workshop through that. So emilyerinscom forward slash IEA to get on that wait list for the workshop and to join the program when it does open, and we’ll open the doors on June 15th, so we’ll see you all then. Thank you all so much for being here. I love you all. We’ll see you either at the end of your programs or we’ll see you after. Either way, thanks again for being here everyone. Thank you Emily. Thank you Emily.

01:02:48 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Thank you.

 

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00:00 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Welcome back to the Aligned and Unstoppable podcast, episode number 447.

00:06 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I’m your host, Emily Ahrens, and I wanted to re-release this week’s podcast episode for a few reasons. Number one, obviously, if you’re a loyal listener, you know I’ve been taking a bit of a hiatus from recording new episodes to really focus on the Spiritual Business Sessions podcast, which is my new paid podcast. But the reason why I wanted to share this one with you today is because right now more than ever, the world is desperately in need of qualified healing practitioners and I believe as a practitioner, you also deserve to be making great money. And the Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training if you are familiar with it, it’s the first and only energy-based training with a profit guarantee. So if you decide that you are ready to kind of take that next step towards having a very profitable career as a spiritual business owner, iea is the place to go. We are literally setting the gold standard. Our practitioners are making thousands of extra dollars every single month, and that’s even before they graduate and get their certification, because we are requiring students to start charging at a certain place within the program. Now, if you are a practitioner, you’ve had certifications before. You can start charging whenever you’re ready, so you could actually bring in an extra stream of revenue right away.

01:33
So the reason why I wanted to bring this week’s episode back into rotation is because it is very timely. We are about to take a small group of students and fast track them to get started this June. Not only will they get to get started in June, but we have incredible incentives. So, number one, we have some amazing cash incentives to get started with the June cohort and we have three unreleased bonuses. This is just for folks who are joining in this cohort Now. I can’t speak very much to them each individually, but they are three incredible courses that are going to turn you into an expert, to help you with your business growth, to help you launch your business, to help you with learning how to intuitively run your business and as well as plan. So these are some different things that folks have really, really needed help, support with around the years, and you can jumpstart that career as a healer, as a practitioner, and have this success right there when you are ready.

02:42
So in this week’s episode you’re going to hear me talking about a free training that I used to do called Breaking Up With Broke. Now that program is no longer available. However, it has been adapted and improved upon, which is now called Activate your Abundance Mindset. It’s a free training. You can sign up for it at emilyaronscom forward slash mindset. We’ll have the link in the show notes as well as in the email that goes with this week’s episode. But if you are ready, you say like listen, emily, I’m ready to start fast tracking. I need your training, I want to learn how to run a business, I want to be surrounded by like-minded people and I really need the support. You are definitely in the right place.

03:25
So take a listen to this week’s episode. There is also the YouTube version if you’d like to watch the video and get to see the students speaking Really. This whole episode is talking about the students from their point of view and their success stories, which there are many, and even since this podcast recording, I think we’ve had at least two, possibly even three more no, I think two cohorts that started even after this group, and they’ve been even more successful than the previous ones. So if you are interested in running a profitable spiritual business, definitely check out emilyerinscom forward slash mindset for the free training. If you are ready to go right to booking that call, learning about the information session, you can go to emilyerinscom forward slash info session. That will put you right on the list. You can get the information session and then you book your call to get the cash savings off as well as those other three brand new bonuses that have not been released yet.

04:25
So let’s get into this week’s episode and share about the success of our IEA students.

04:32 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Thank you so much for being here and, as always take a screenshot of this week’s episode on your phone or your favorite listening device. Tag me on Instagram at Emily Ahrens. Let me know you’re listening. If there are any ahas, breakthroughs or questions, just hitrens. Let me know you’re listening. If there are any ahas, breakthroughs or questions, just hit me up. Let me know that you are listening and thank you so much for being here. Lots of love. We’ll see you on the next podcast episode.

04:55 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Welcome back to the Aligned and Unstoppable podcast. This one is so special. I have got a lot I mean a lot of guests with me. Today I’m bringing my actual, real students from the IEA training with me, and so we’re going to be talking about what a lot of practitioners have the problem with, which is how do we break up with the broke mindset, the broke mentality, the broke paradigm and usher in a new era for impact-driven healers, coaches and leaders. And that’s really what I’m here to do. That’s part of my mission and that’s certainly what the Integrated Energy Alignment practitioners are doing as well to spread this light. So in this episode, you’re going to hear me interview about seven of my past and a couple of current students from the IEA training. So we’re going to talk about like why did I create this training, who is it for, who is it not? For Some of the success stories, some of the big hurdles that they overcame and one of the biggest things that I wanted to share with you for anybody who’s interested in either becoming an energy practitioner or adding to your current coaching or healing roster, just to have another tool in your tool belt, this is a whole nother level of integrity the course, the curriculum, the practice sessions, it actually it pushed me outside of my comfort zone and that’s the gift that keeps on giving for the students. So every single one of the students, at some point or another, was pushed outside of their comfort zone. And if you are ready for hitting new milestones, becoming the person that you didn’t even know you were capable of, seeing how intrinsically strong and intuitive and courageous you are, you can absolutely get there through the IEA training.

06:49
The IEA training is not for the faint of heart. It’s not for everybody. We talked about the difference between the seriousness and the high level of integrity of the IEA training compared to some of those courses that people are selling for a few bucks through ads, and that level of integrity as well. So we’re going to get to all that and so much more in this week’s podcast, but before we do, this is also an audio podcast as well as a video podcast, so if you go over to emilyerinscom forward slash video, you can actually watch the entire episode over on my YouTube channel. Make sure you hit that subscribe button, because I do release my podcast episodes as well as other content here. That’s going to help you open up your intuition, connect with your guides, connect with your energy and so much more. If you are a new listener and you’re really excited, I’m so happy that you’re here. And what I also want to say it was kind of funny is that some of the practitioners share their stories that they started here too, just like you, listening to the podcast, searching for a way to get more connected with yourself, your intuition, maybe a way to grow your business, and so if you’ve been a podcast listener for a while, this episode might just be exactly the answer to your prayers if you’re wanting to go to that next level, whether it’s within yourself or with me.

08:08
Anyways, let’s get into this week’s episode, and I also have a special announcement at the end of the training. I’ll kind of want to get you to listen to it, but I also will tell you too. I have a brand new exclusive workshop coming out with the title Breaking Up With Broke Ushering a New Era of Impact-Driven Coaches, healers and Leaders. It is only available to people who are on the IEA waitlist. So if you are serious about up-leveling your life, growing a business and creating profits, head on over to emilyarenscom forward slash IEA. The link will be also in the show notes. Get on that wait list and it’ll get you that spot inside of my very exclusive workshop coming up over on June 15th. So that’s Thursday, june 15th, breaking Up With Broke Again, listen to it. I’ll give you the details at the end of the episode. Here is this week’s episode with my IEA coaches, my trainees and my graduates.

09:06 – Emily Aarons (Host)
You’re listening to the Aligned and Unstoppable podcast. I’m your host, emily Aarons. I’m an entrepreneur and highly sought after energy healer with over two decades in practice. I’m a mixture of high vibe energy and cutting edge strategy with a little dash of unfiltered real talk, making this the one and only podcast that gives you a down to earth approach to business and spirituality. Tune in each week to get out of the stress of overworking so you can build a brand in alignment with your soul’s purpose. If there’s one thing I’ve learned the hard way, it’s that you have to stop looking outside yourself for the answer and start looking within. We all have a unique path and it’s time you start trusting in yourself. The truth is, you already have everything you need. You just need to learn how to access it. Now let’s dive in.

10:00 – Emily Aarons (Host)
It’s time you experience, business and soul alignment. Hey podcast listeners, welcome back. I am so excited. This is an episode that has been a long time coming and I do really mean that with everything in me. I have brought together a stellar group of students from my IEA training that’s integrated energy alignment training. I’ve invited them to be here both past students who have graduated as well as some current students who are about to graduate and I wanted them to be here because I felt like this is a great conversation to have with all of them present, versus me just telling you what it is. So today’s episode, we’re going to talk about really what it is to break up with being broke and to tap into your own energy, your own skillset, building a business and really how these folks who are here in this room with me, how they got to join the IEA training. They’re going to be sharing from their own words not from mine of their experience and their background. So please, welcome them all. I’ve got Carla Miller, jamie Lacazi, shannon Miller, allison Delatore, emily Pearl, susie Almeida and Millie Barra, so welcome them all. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All of you are waving. For those of you who are listening to the podcast, please also check out my YouTube channel, so emilyerinscom forward slash YouTube, you will get a full view of everybody here that I’m looking at, so you can kind of get the feel of like the energy in the space as well.

11:36
So before I get into kind of interviewing my friends here, I want to talk about sort of where IEA came from. So I’ve been doing energy work for the last 23 years. I was trained in polarity therapy and other advanced energy trainings and Akashic records and distance healing, and it was in January of 2022 where I had actually just had COVID. I was super sick and I pretty much felt like I hit my rock bottom and I bottomed out totally. And when I woke up the next morning I started listening to a couple of my own meditations that cleared my energy, got me back feeling amazing, and it was like I snapped my finger and suddenly this whole program was like ready to come in and be delivered. So that morning I was like, hey, andrew, my husband, I’m like, please take the children for a few hours, I have some channeling to do. And I basically just wrote out the entirety of the framework for the IEA training, which I will say is pretty genius, except for the fact that I had no idea how to actually put that all together. That came through connecting with Amanda Pickering, who is now my COO. I hired her at the time just to be the project manager, but fortunately for me, she’s still here. I’m so, so grateful.

12:55
So the background was basically I had brought this program together because I knew practitioners that needed the business skills, who had been doing other certifications Maybe they did breathwork or hypnotherapy or Reiki or other sorts of certifications but didn’t have the business skills and also the people who maybe just wanted a career change. They wanted to get deeper into their spiritual practice or deeper into healing work, and this was completely a new avenue for them. So, by a show of hands, raise your hand. If the IEA training was the first ever brand new to healing modality of this sort, raise your hands friends. So Jamie, carla, wiggling kind of how about? Susie, were you, is this new for you? Yeah, so for you as well, yeah. And then for Shannon and Allison, emily and Millie you guys all had a lot of training. You’ve been through multiple sort of. So the ladies who’ve had all the trainings would you mind sharing some of the trainings that you’d already been through that you maybe still utilize?

14:01 – Millie Barra (Guest)
Yeah, I’ll go. So I’m a certified emotion code and body code practitioner, along with EFT tapping, so emotional freedom technique tapping and I had worked in my own practice for about two years. I entered it in 2020. And really, though, I feel like those modalities that I use while they are in the energy medicine field right and working with your energy field, they were very like I had charts to lean on and like very tangible for me versus what Emily offers, which is really trusting my own gifts and my own abilities, my intuition, and it’s just been really beautiful to see how I’ve been able to kind of bridge both of them but really settle into my calling as an energy worker.

14:50 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, I love that and I mean that’s why the word integrated is in the name is it is designed to be able to blend into other modalities as well. Thanks, Millie. What about Emily? Have you found like you can blend the work with, like you do, Akashic records and so many other things? But how do you feel it’s been for you in your practice?

15:10 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
coaching and I’ve learned energy work through many different modalities through Reiki, through the Akashic record work. I’ve worked with Barbara Brennan like the hands of light style healing, so with integrating it into the IEA certification it has, it’s integrated really well. The biggest reason I really wanted to go into IEA is for the online business training to learn how to put an online business together. But also I really wanted to learn how to talk about the energy work more like with my clients and be able to verbalize like what I was feeling and what was happening, and I definitely feel like I’ve been able to integrate that really well into this work.

16:05 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I love that and that’s like part of the biggest challenge with practitioners who aren’t making the money they desire is simply like articulating your offer, articulating the transformation. And from day one, you know I remember you guys all going through the program like how do I tell people I have these practice sessions? What exactly is this? It’s like that’s where we start, versus a lot of times after certifications are through, you’re like now, how do I get people? So that’s also what makes IEA so different and so special is that you’re starting practice sessions from really day one and being able to articulate what you do, how you do it, who it’s for, who it’s not for, and the transformation that’s possible is a lot of the work that goes into, you know, being able to sell yourself, being able to talk in session and outside of session, really be able to market yourself.

16:58
So other thing is that the IEA training, which is different from I mean, I don’t know if you guys get served a lot of ads for other courses or certifications. I’ve been seeing a lot of them like get breath work for only $17, be certified crystal bowl healer and like these different certifications, and then it’s like at a bargain, basement low, low rate. I’m curious what you guys feel about that. Do you feel like that those low prices keep the integrity of the training, or do you feel like they’re just like trying to appeal to masses and just like pushing things out there? What do you, what do you guys feel about that?

17:34 – Carla Miller (Guest)
I actually did one.

17:35 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Oh, yeah, tell me about that, carla.

17:38 – Carla Miller (Guest)
Well, after doing IEA, I was very disappointed and I have actually invested invested in another coach to learn. I feel it’s more about just getting the people and getting the sell. Like it was a a rakey course and we just watched the modules and she did the see. I can’t remember what exactly and then afterwards.

18:06
So we got like an initiation, but then afterwards there was no like feedback from her. There was no way to ask questions, you to email them and you you didn’t have this connection with other people. You know to converse about what were coming up for you or what you’d experienced, and you know getting other people’s views and things. So, yeah, I think you set the bar so high I’m really gonna struggle to go on another course with other people.

18:32 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So, yeah, I am not a fan though not that every low course I’m sure is not the same but my experience wasn’t very good yeah, which is unfortunate, and I think thank you for saying that and I think that’s also been what’s been so challenging for me as the course creator is setting such a high bar, setting such a high standard for integrity to hold the healing art, but also to be able to hold the integrity to hold my mission, which is to help impact the lives of millions of practitioners, to help create wealth for them. Impact the lives of millions of practitioners to help create wealth for them. And if I’m setting such a low bar and letting anybody in the door, I’m not really caring about their practice sessions or if they are practicing or anything to even give them the time to answer their questions. That’s just that’s setting such a low standard. So for me, setting this high standard, it does require a lot more of me, it requires a lot more of my team, but that’s what we want and part of that is to uphold this level of seriousness.

19:30
And you know, I know you guys have gone through your ups and downs to complete the course. Does anybody raise your hand? At any point in the IEA training did you feel like, oh shoot, like I don’t know if I can make it, I don’t think I can finish this. This is like pretty rigorous.

19:45 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
So the majority.

19:46 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Okay, all right, everybody but Allison. Thank you, allison. Can you tell me about that, because?

19:53 – Allison Delatore (Guest)
everybody else raised their hand. Well, I think I’ve done so many certification classes. I’ve never done any of the low cost ones and at least I think it partially has to do with me as well that when I set my mind to do something, I’m going to do it. I’m not going to do it half-assed and I’m going to complete it Like that’s who I am. So, and having done so many other certification courses that required practice sessions and paid practice sessions and and all of that, it was kind of like, oh, this is totally manageable. I love that.

20:24 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Well, thank you and like, really thank you, because when you first signed up, I was like, okay, so there are going to be practitioners who are really dedicated, who are really here to take it seriously. So you joining was evidence that there was more people out there for me. That’s what you also gave me that little gift too, because I really believe that part of the reason that we have this like broke healer, broke coach thing that’s going on, this narrative that’s going on, is partly to do with these cheap courses that have no integrity behind them and people don’t actually care if you go through them, if you complete them, if you practice. If you don’t, it doesn’t really matter. And so it’s like just bring some more people in here, and so you also are in the minority in that most people who do online courses do not complete them. So you have the mindset of like, if I’m going to do it, I’m going to do it. I feel the same way, I’m the same If I sign up, like I’m going to try to do 17 modules in a day and like I want to go through it as fast as possible.

21:27
That’s a character flaw of my own, but really part of what is so special is that we do take the time to have an integration week. So basically the formula of IEA we have three weeks on, one week off and every single month the students are required to do a certain number of practice sessions, single sessions, and then at a certain point in the program they start to build up their confidence a little bit and they start to get a little bit more excited about what they’re doing and knowing what they’re doing. So then we start to charge for our sessions and I remember so. Before I get into that, actually I’m feeling like I want to back up. So the folks of, I would say, jamie and Susie, folks who had never done any sort of training before, when you had to start doing practice sessions, they were required. What kind of came up for?

22:15 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
you, the practice sessions were interesting, I would say. To kind of like backtrack a little bit is, I found the hardest part of the course the first couple of weeks where and even our first like session where we did energy work on each other not even clients yet Like I was so nervous. But then eventually I like warmed up and got into it and that’s what you, that’s what I was here for was to like learn how to tap into my intuition. And so when doing the practice sessions I was scared but I kind of just gave up that like gave up that control and kind of tapped into my body, like you taught us to, and just rolled with it. And so after the first time, after the first round, I did 10 sessions. I was like, okay, I got through it. And then I saw the next month that people were returning for more sessions and so that was definitely a confidence booster that like, okay, I can get through the rest of this course, let’s keep going.

23:08 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So it was really fun and I remember when you started to, you’re like I don’t even know what I’m doing here and this is probably not for me. I don’t know if it’s is it for me. I don’t know what I’m even here for. I remember you were like that.

23:21 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Yeah, because I work in forensic science. And how I found you actually, emily and you know this story is that I was in like a dark space. You know, my grandfather passed away. I found out I didn’t want to be a doctor anymore. I was having trouble in some relationships that I was had and I found your podcast randomly.

23:42
I loved your picture and so the little icon you have on your podcast and I was like let’s. I loved your picture and so the little icon you have on your podcast and I was like let’s, try this one out. And from the minute I listened to you I was like this is it right? I was like I want to work with her. And this has been the whole training course IEA was offered and I was like this is it? And yeah, when I enrolled in your course, I had no intention of being a practitioner. I solely signed up to learn how to control my own energy and really listen to my mind, my body, my soul, what it needs, because my entire life I’ve only ever been told what I need. And so my mindset going into your training was just to learn about myself and I loved the. I ended up finding out that I loved this field of work and I enrolled in the coach training. For that reason, I love it.

24:30 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I’m curious, anybody else, anybody else want to share their story of like? I haven’t heard from you, shannon, yet either sort of what. What drew you to IEA initially?

24:39 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Kind of along the same lines as Jamie. I actually came across your podcast and so I was like, okay, well, let’s listen to this. And so in listening to you, that kind of got me interested in a lot of the work that you did. And I signed up for M&A and then was like, okay, well, she’s got an IEA, so let’s do that. And starting into the program, I was like, well, I don’t know if I can, you know, afford to do this. And I was like you know what I’m going to do this for me, I’m just going to sign up. And it was like the minute that I signed up, it was like, oh, and, by the way, here’s the flow that you, the cashflow you were asking for, to pay for it. So I was like score.

25:19 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Oh my gosh, what happened?

25:25 – Shannon Major (Guest)
I love hearing these stories. I never get old. What happened to? What shifted? I guess for me it was my whole mindset of, okay, well, you know, I’m not interested in the field that you know I’m currently in. So you know, I want to kind of dive in and go ahead head straight into energy work. And so I was like, okay, I’m going to sign up for this certification. And I was like, okay, you know, in the back of my mind I’m like, well, I don’t know how I’m going to pay for this. You know, I just let’s just sign up for the. I think it was like monthly payment plans and I was like, okay, all right.

25:56
And so as soon as I had made the decision for myself to do it and sign up, then all of a sudden, you know, the government was like, oh, you overpaid on your taxes, here you go. And I was like score. So. So, yeah, so pretty much that refund, pretty much paid for the certification in full. So, oh my God.

26:19 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I remember, I do remember when you signed up, when you started to payments and then you said is it okay if I also pay in full which is like any course creator, by the way, it’s like your favorite thing that anybody ever emails you. You’re like would it be okay? Of course it would be okay, get over here, anybody else. Have an interesting story like that, when you first signed up, having sort of something shift or miraculous happened for you, not knowing how to pay, and then suddenly something happened.

26:47 – Millie Barra (Guest)
I worked with Emily within a few different capacities one-on-one, and then also now in IEA and every single time is like amazing, where I have, like these new clients that come out of the woodwork that I have no idea how they found me, like I have. I had four new clients that were referred to me by a woman I’ve never met, have no idea how she found me, and she just started sending me clients after I signed up for your stuff and I was like, okay, I’ll take it.

27:17 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Oh yes, didn’t that happen to you, jamie? Something like that happened to you you.

27:22 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Recently someone found me through your Facebook platform. Okay, she scrolled through because I don’t think I’m not a trainer or practitioner anymore so I don’t have training sessions. But she said she was going through some stuff and she wanted to see you. She knew you were offering sessions for our sessions and she was like scrolling way down and she found me and she signed up and booked a session and then from there she got two other people to book sessions with me. So it’s ever since working with you, emily, and doing this IEA and like tapping into myself, like things have just been coming to me, like I think it and I receive it, love it.

28:00 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So good and I was going to mention that too is that part of what was so genius that I literally I cannot take credit for. This is what’s channeled through was part of the practitioners practice sessions. We share their booking links within my Mastering Ascension paid community of people who like energy work. That’s why they’re there. They trust me and they’re interested in getting more healing, and so basically it’s free advertising to people who are already primed and ready, who would like to have some work by them. So every single month we promote their links, which is really a huge benefit to the members, but also a great way for the practitioners to get practice sessions with people who they don’t necessarily know and wouldn’t otherwise be able to like. Bring people in, because it’s not always the easiest things.

28:48 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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30:54 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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31:02 – Suzy Almeida (Guest)
I it was. It was scary. First of all, you know when, when you’re, when you don’t do like a certification and you’re not sure of your own intuition, and then you’re faced with. Well, now you’ve got to tune into your trust, your intuition first of all, and do a session. It was nerve wracking and trusting my intuition has been the biggest thing with. But with the certification I, it’s growing, it’s getting 10 times better.

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You know your program. It just the guide, the way it guides you into trusting and believing in yourself, and the practice sessions. It just allows you to expand. Uh, now, yeah, I made cards. I’m trying to get out there. But the last two weeks has been a bummer for me because I allowed someone to literally put me down and it just stayed with me. But knowing what you’ve taught us in the course, I know that it will happen and it is. It’s like Jamie says, like everyone says it’s changing your mindset and your perception and believing in yourself and the way I feel. With the certification from you, emily, you know that you have guidance, you know that you have help.

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You know that you can turn to your team for help or answers or practice which allowed me to grow as a person, because I was in a dark place before I even and I it was like Shannon, I was on your MNA and your the. I remember listening to your first meditation and I cried, but it, this is where, like, how I realized how much I grew, and that was just listening to your podcast. And then, once you came out with the IEA certification, I had to do it. Yeah.

32:43 – Emily Aarons (Host)
How? How did you decide, like what was it for you that you wanted to made?

32:47 – Suzy Almeida (Guest)
you want to join IEA, knowing what like knowing that I already had like intuition and I wanted to know how could I really tap into who am I and what am I here for? Looking at, like you know, those cheaper courses, yeah, like your certification to me stood out because there was so much to it that I was like I just have to do it this. It was just the right time for me to grow.

33:12 – Emily Aarons (Host)
I’m glad that you decided so okay, how about? For the real fun was when I forced you guys to charge for your sessions. No longer, everybody and anyone is like it’s free and everyone’s like it’s like a party. We’re raving out in the backyard, we’re barbecuing, there’s music on, there’s confetti somewhere, and then all of a sudden you’re like okay, so also, we’re going to start charging. And you look behind, you’re like where did everybody go? What happened? Anybody want to share a little fun, little fun story of their own about that?

33:47 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Because I know that it definitely happened to every single one of you. I would have to say that when we went from free sessions to charging, I had a whole WTF moment because, you know, here you had all these people lining up for free sessions and then, once you started charging, it was like crickets. So I kind of had to get inventive and kind of come up with a strategy of okay, well, you know, let’s figure out what works and what doesn’t work.

34:16 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So what worked for you? What? Tell me what didn’t work? Anybody want to shoot a bad tip, no. What were you doing at first that wasn’t working, and what did you learn to start doing?

34:26 – Shannon Major (Guest)
I would probably have to say, when I first started putting myself out there, it was kind of like the okay, this is what I’m doing, do you want to sign up? And you know it was kind of like. And then, once I kind of got a feel for you know the type of sessions that I was constantly having and the things that were coming up like you know clarity or purpose then you kind of were I was able to kind of put I don’t want to say marketing, but kind of put myself out there.

34:56 – Emily Aarons (Host)
It is marketing and being able to really articulate the transformation that you are delivering for people for sure. Yeah, cause, and also I want to kind of give you a little high five for something else that you did, because and one of the coaching calls you came in with this problem and I said do you mind if I take a look at your Facebook page? And when I looked at it, I saw sort of a static image and other beautiful quotes and other meat like little pretty memes and flowers, and I said, all right, so here’s the first problem. You’re a personal brand. Now, this is not to call out Shannon by herself. This is all a lot of people and I’m sure there’s a lot of people listening right now who are like feeling that they’re being called out. I do this with love, I really do.

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When you are a personal brand and you show a lotus flower or a quote, how are people supposed to connect with you? They can’t, and so this is how we hide in plain sight. And, shannon, I said something to that degree of you know I see you, but I don’t see you. This is a. This is technically a page to promote your work. However, I don’t see you anywhere on any of these pictures. How am I going to work with you? Within the day you got your hair done, you took the most gorgeous selfie with your eyes looking right at the camera, just so, and it was like boom, there she is, and it’s like being so open and so coachable that started to open up people also coming in to say yes for you, I feel.

36:30 – Shannon Major (Guest)
I’d have to totally agree. Yeah, cause changing the picture and everything.

36:34 – Emily Aarons (Host)
it was like, oh hey did you have any resistance when you finally like were very visible, like it was actually you on there?

36:42 – Shannon Major (Guest)
At first I did because I, with the belief system that I at the time was working through, I had a really hard time with being seen. So I had quite a bit of resistance. At first I was like, well, you know, I don’t know if I want to put my picture out there. And then finally, you know, I kind of sat with it and I’m like you know what, I’m just going to do it. So I did all this stuff and I was like a lot of people.

37:10 – Emily Aarons (Host)
You know we we’re afraid of the judgment of others, we’re afraid of really being out there, and these things can keep us small, keep us sort of in our little area for far too long and even sometimes, like one of the things, not to skip ahead. But one of the things we were talking about at the recent retreat that we all did was around, you know, just speaking directly to the customer who is there who wants to work with you. You know, are we giving them a lot of colors and images and lots of words and that’s confusing them and overwhelming them, or are we able to clearly connect with them and give them exactly what they want? Maybe it’s a short, quick win, maybe it’s a paid session, maybe it’s another something, but there’s so much work that we can always do on that. And I want to share Carla’s story, because I remember, carla, when we increased prices, that was definitely a block for you and you overcame it like like nothing else, so I would love for you to share that story.

38:05 – Carla Miller (Guest)
So I overcame blocks at every single module. I was sat there in the sessions being like, oh my God, I can’t do this next bit. How am I going to go from 10 to 20 minutes to 20 to 30? And all the women and Emily were just so amazing that when we got to charging, I think we all went in really low, didn’t we with the prices. And no, it was crickets again and no one was signing up and I just was like I need to start showing up as the person that I want to be, as the energy practitioner I want to be. So what price do I want to charge? And we I think we did a what feels kind of thing, didn’t we, of how far we could push ourselves, and so I took the 60 pounds off and I went in at 250. And that’s when I got my first client sign up and we were all like, oh my god. And then she ended up signing up for a course of sessions, referred somebody else and they signed up and it just snowballed from there.

39:13 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So yeah, like that kind of blew us all away. So basically you were charging 60 pounds and you’re like, screw that, yeah, 50, it’s 250. It’s actually 250. And that’s the thing is like I give you guys full flexibility to set your own prices. I offer a suggested sliding scale when you’re first starting your prices and I encourage you slash, require you to increase your prices later on in the program, and also that’s it’s completely up to you, you can set them. I don’t say it’s a sliding scale, you just do the increase. So it’s completely up to you, you can set them. I don’t say it’s a sliding scale, you just do the increase. So it’s really interesting that you say that like I didn’t get any bites at 60 until I raised it to 250. Then people started to bite. So I’m curious, why do you feel that happened?

39:58 – Carla Miller (Guest)
because the energy that I gave off that’s a an amount like we better be showing up with our a-game. We better be showing up like we mean this and not that. I was ever trying not to, but I was hiding away. And then I was like showing up as psychic energy worker, carla, and it took me so long to say that. And once I went in there I was like that’s who I, who I am, that’s what I am now and yeah, just, it was a whole energy shift.

40:29 – Emily Aarons (Host)
It’s the massive shift, yeah, and it was like this you’re like I sold one and then I sold a five pack and then I got another one. It’s like, oh, okay, okay, awesome, so so good, I love that. Thank you for sharing that. Anybody else have a fun little story they want to share about when you went from free to paid or paid to increasing your prices?

40:50 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Well, like everybody else, I had difficulty you know crickets when it started charging, but I think it was more of a self lesson, of self-worth for me. You know showing up and saying, like I can do this, like I am an energy worker, I’m going through the training for it, so it was really just valuing me and I just started showing up and telling people more about it. And meeting someone in the grocery store yeah, I do energy work and you know really standing my ground now to tell people what I do.

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So it was more like a lesson of me, like I was holding myself back.

41:22 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, that sounds like what Carla is like really owning who you are and what you do. Did you guys feel like that? For you, anyone else feel like that? It’s like really stepping in to own what you do as a practitioner, as a coach, as a healer. Everyone’s smiling and nodding at me. They can’t see your faces for some of them, so we’ll just imagine they’re there. That’s what they’re all doing. They’re all smiling politely and nodding at me. Does anybody want to share a particular milestone or a breakthrough or aha, or like what was your favorite part of being in the IEA training? I know for a lot of you who had the training you wanted to come for the business stuff or maybe for the community, or maybe for the camaraderie or having someone to ask questions to. I’d love to hear from you guys. I guess I’ll call on you Millie, emily, ok, hey, and Allison Great, all right, we got people who want to talk to me, all right.

42:17 – Allison Delatore (Guest)
Go for it, gals. So I already had an established business for several years. When I jumped into IEA and I came in really for the business, I was already a professional intuitive you know I’m an advanced Akashic record practitioner. I was already doing the stuff.

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But I really wanted to take the business stuff to the next level and one of the things that I loved about the IEA business part was like it really goes into like the nitty gritty piece right. So like I know how to make a meditation or an activation or an attunement, but what’s the best equipment to use for it Like little stuff like that that maybe doesn’t get covered in other business courses. And even some of the really detailed stuff about social media and you know the algorithms, which, granted, they’re always changing, but how the algorithms work and how you could inadvertently be blocking your stuff from being seen because you’re doing something that the algorithm doesn’t like right. So I found all of that stuff to be immensely helpful as a small business owner, just to have that support and that the nitty gritty details about how to do things that you don’t always get in other courses.

43:32 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, and I will say that the social media part was the hardest thing to teach. Well, not every everything was the hardest thing to teach, but that part in particular was really challenging as to not go into training how to use the platform, knowing that in five minutes after I teach it it’s going to change, but really teaching you know the overall and like what is the growth strategy for these platforms and who is on them, and how to connect with your soulmate client and connect where they are versus just where you are currently, which I think you’ve done a really great job of really being visible on all the different platforms that your soulmate client is. I think you do great. Yeah, thank you, You’re welcome, Emily. I saw you unmute yourself. Come on back.

44:15 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
My favorite part of the training was the retreat. I felt like I left the retreat having just like a really good overview of what my business looks like, from start to finish. I can see the bigger picture now and I can see exactly like how different things will come together to create passive income and to really snowball off of there. So I yeah, I really love the retreat. I really love getting to meet the community. That was really fun. And I really loved getting to meet the community. That was really fun. And I really liked the strategy and the planning. I feel really good about things. That was really awesome. I’m sorry you had.

44:52 – Emily Aarons (Host)
We had such a fun moment when my team member, shauna, shared that she saw you and your husband, maddie, who’s also a business partner. We were doing an M&A call and this word came out of my mouth. I’m like is this a word? And you and Maddie I’m new You’re like that is a word and I will tell you about it. It’s from this thing and I’m like, oh damn, which got like kind of the eyes on you.

45:12
So Shauna like found your Instagram, then went to your website and then she knew we were we’re all at the retreat talk on this. And she’s like I know that you have a session for this and a session for that. And I go so did you buy? And she’s like I didn’t. I’m like, ooh, this is amazing. We got, we all got so excited, because it’s not often that you have a potential customer in front of you who is willing to tell you why they didn’t buy. Yeah, that was really awesome. That was so much fun.

45:46
I, we all geeked out about it and through that exercise, we got to understand what does that first touch point need to be when you are connecting with people and they’re they’re actually interested enough to go to your website. What can you give them? And at first it was like maybe I can give them this meditation I’ve already made, and she was like and then I forget exactly what you came up with together, but she was like I need that, I want that. It was like, okay, we will make this. And then, understanding, you know how to be clearer on your website communication and, you know, really directing people to the next step. I mean it was so powerful to see that and to see, like where you can go after. That is like so much fun, because a lot of times we’re just in the here and now, like I just need to get a couple clients this week, and we’re not thinking about the broad picture and the impact that we truly could create through the work. Uh, which I thought you just like really opened up so much at the retreat.

46:42 – Emily Pearl (Guest)
Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, we did have fun, we definitely had fun. But the um, but yeah, I mean I’ve been implementing all of the things that I’ve learned over. Well, I mean we spent days in the car to finally make it to Arizona and then now I’ve spent literally like probably about 16 hours yesterday on the website. So my gosh going a minute and I can really see the bigger picture, and so I’m feeling really good. Oh, good, I’m so happy.

47:13 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, we had some really great moments at the retreat where it was a blend of hands on healing. We all got to do a little hands on work because you know, being on Zoom, you don’t get to put your hands on people. We got to do advanced aura work, advanced pendulum work, the strategy. We did a lot of intention setting at the very beginning and it was fun. Every single day we’re like checking off every single one of the intentions that we had individually as well as as a collective. And then we had days where we really focused on strategy and breaking through our fears, and I’m not going to say what we did because I don’t want to ruin everybody in the future.

47:52
All I will say is that the women who did this exercise also enjoyed a very long cold plunge at the end of the day. So that day was one of the most transformative days for everybody on so many levels, because they were breaking through their blocks, they were focused on, like on their strategy, they were opening up to new levels in their business and they were challenging themselves with this like cold immersion thing all of a sudden, and it was just really phenomenal to see everybody shift in such a tremendous way and really connect. I mean, you know, one of the things that IEA does, which I’m sure you guys can speak to, is is building this network. You know, when you’re not confident in yourself or your practice and like where is it going, what am I doing? And like having people who see you and who believe in you and who are willing to say, yeah, we can practice on each other, or you know what I love, that thing that you just did is sometimes makes all the difference.

48:46
So I would love to hear from you guys you know how you felt about the community within IEA. Did you feel supported? Did it feel empowering? Did it feel like just another course and nobody’s paying attention to you. I’d love to hear from you. Feel free to unmute just go for it.

49:03 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
For it, I loved the community. I think that was one of the best parts, you know, because in the beginning I knew like I wasn’t confident in myself and even during the sessions, you know, the people in the training were like you can do this, like good job, and they were like work me up to believe in myself as well and we have friendships now that you know, even after the training, we’re connecting, we’re doing um collaborations together, you know it’s fun and those relationships will last forever oh for sure.

49:34 – Carla Miller (Guest)
Yeah, I agree like we’ve made some really good friends. It was nice to share things and have someone to back these things that were coming up that you might not necessarily wanted to talk about in the session, and then they would encourage you to share it once they’d helped you work through it. And, like Jamie says, we’ve done sessions together me, you and Shannon and it’s just been so much fun to like to do that as well, and especially when we were first getting out there and you felt a little bit more scared to have our little wing women with us doing it together.

50:09 – Shannon Major (Guest)
It was so nice yeah, I really loved the support that our whole group had because we were able to, you know, bounce ideas off of one another. We had sessions together. You know we would send messages and be like, hey, you know, what do you think about this. Or you know we would send messages and be like, hey, you know, what do you think about this. Or you know, if there was something that came up or a question, you know we were, you know and still are very much there, you know, to support everybody. So, yeah, I really love to the love and support that we, you know, have and still have.

50:40 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
And then you get to meet in person at the retreat.

50:44 – Emily Aarons (Host)
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52:38 – Emily Aarons (Host)
So I feel like it’s been really nice to get this full picture and part of the IEA training that I didn’t know was coming at the beginning when it first came through, was the coaching training, and that came through sort of near like the midway point I would say for the first round. And it made sense because the first round it’s been mostly myself and my team, you know, getting all the calls and all the links and making sure that the things are getting done. And Amanda is like the woman who is just like the master of all things in the business, and I don’t say that lightly, I do truly mean that if it weren’t for Amanda I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again If it weren’t for Amanda, this program wouldn’t be what it is today, both with the systems, with keeping people accountable, with moving everybody forward through the program, making sure everything is done and to just hold the space. I mean she’s a beautiful energy to hold the container, not just like. She’s not like a stickler, like poking people and you know me and she’s wonderful and she brings this great energy to the space. She’s wonderful and she brings this great energy to the space.

53:52
And when we realize that there is like another level that’s ready to be out. There is the coach training, which means that we take the graduates from the first level and we teach them more behind the scenes of how I literally run my business, how the systems literally work, how to help students, how to support them, how to be a coach and all of the different pieces that really go together to keep students on track and moving forward through the program. So I would love to hear from some of the coach trainees Shannon and Jamie, you know you guys have been through the coach training and are about to start coaching. How did you feel the coach training is different than the initial IEA training?

54:39 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
It’s definitely more business, right.

54:41
So IEA, the practitioner training, was half energy, half business.

54:45
But this is like really, like you said, behind the scenes work or like the platforms and the things that the practitioners don’t see, like the scheduling and making sure everybody’s on track and a lot of that work. So that’s like very interesting too, because you know, when I was in the practitioner training, I would just email Amanda and say like I’m having this problem, can you? And then like now to see on her end, like all the work that she had to figure out, I was like Whoa, like Amanda, I’m so sorry I put you through this, but yeah, so it’s very interesting. And then also like it’s taught me a lot about like I need personally more structure, and so it’s given me a little bit of like an outline of how to structure my days, my schedules. You know what am I going to do on this day, how I’m going to make sure that my clients are keeping track. So it’s actually helped me a little bit more versus the one session and like that’s it like following up and more of a journey than you know a visit.

55:41 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Awesome. How about for you, Shannon?

55:43 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Yeah, I’d have to totally agree with pretty much all of what Jamie said as well. As you know being able to see how you can support new students that are coming in into the certification and know you know being able to see how you can support new students that are coming in into the certification and know you know the different ways that you can help them along. And you know realizing just what a wonderful human being Amanda really is. For sure, yeah, so, and being able to see definitely the business, the backend of it, to kind of see all the ins and outs of how everything works.

56:19 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Yeah, there’s two intentions behind that. Number one so you can become a coach and move people through my program. The second one is so that you can be a coach and move your own students through your own programs, because what we created has not been created before in the way that we created it. There’s not a template, there is not a plug and play system, there is certainly not a software that you just get everything all within a bundle and you just plug in what you need and it just goes. It’s all been manually done.

56:51
And what’s so special is like when we built IEA, it was with the intention of this has got to be done. From scale and a lot of the things that we do as business owners, we think of like the here and now, of like the first five people and the first 10 people, but like what if it was 500 and 1000? Can this system still work and still be manageable with that volume? And so when you keep that in mind, it makes you think bigger, it makes you make different choices, and so part of the training is also to bring you into that thought process and to think bigger for yourself and your own business. How can you apply what we did and how we marketed and how we do the backend in your own business as well, and that’s just. It’s like it’s just a deeper level of expansion, which I love, and taking people through that customer value journey is the final piece of your program that you’re gonna get.

57:44
I wanna wrap this up because I know we’ve had a lot to share and I know we briefly talked about the retreat, we briefly talked about the coaching training. Is there anything else Like if somebody were on the fence around joining IEA? I would love to hear what if they were asking you for your advice. You know, I don’t know if I should do it. Is it worth the investment? What do I do? I’d love to hear your feedback.

58:08 – Carla Miller (Guest)
If you’re thinking about doing it, do it. You know it’s life changing. If this is what you want to do, just do it, yeah.

58:18 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
I agree. I agree it’s worth the investment. You know, stop spending the money on you know the Instagram ads and really invest in this because you won’t be mistaken, it was so much fun.

58:33 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Yeah, you learned so much about yourself in the process. It’s absolutely mind blowing.

58:38 – Millie Barra (Guest)
For me. I know I went into it going okay, I really want to cause, I love Emily and like I want to do anything that Emily does. But I was like I already have a practice, I already am certified, like do I really need one more certification? And then I’m like, and do I really have the money? Like I don’t have the money to like spend for this.

58:57
And for me it was like but no, like I would do this hands down if that wasn’t an issue thing it has not only helped me as a practitioner, like with my own energy, because I kept saying to Emily I’m like I don’t know why I’m not able to get like fully booked, I don’t know why I’m not getting more clients. And that really struck with me and she’s like, well, you need to like make sure that you are taking care of your energy, and the boundaries and things that she helps you set are priceless, because you know it’s kind of again, you can’t pour from an empty cup, and so really making sure that you as a practitioner are holding yourself up and just the knowledge and the skills and the connections alone. Also, like you know, return on investment. The connections I’m making are leading me to other things too that are bringing in more revenue.

59:48
So, yeah, I think it was the best decision I made even though I have already stopped you know, it just adds additional stuff and just makes me even better.

59:58 – Allison Delatore (Guest)
I agree with what all of the ladies have said, and especially like what Millie just said. You know, like I already have the stuff, but it is another tool in the toolbox that can be used as a standalone thing or it can be used in conjunction with other tools that you have. And I think, especially if you’re someone that already has a business but is a typical solopreneur who’s in the state of normal solopreneur overwhelm that can happen when you’re trying to juggle everything under the sun. I think it’s helpful having that added business expertise. That just makes things easier. When someone just tells you what to do, like this is how you do it. Right, it’s like the smallest thing, but it makes such a difference. So I would say, just let it be choiceless, you know, and if your inclination is to do it, but right, just do it anyway.

01:00:57 – Shannon Major (Guest)
Just do it anyway. Emily or Susie, you want to share?

01:01:00 – Suzy Almeida (Guest)
Share. Yeah, I would say, do it. You learn a lot, not only about business, but you learn a lot about yourself. You learn a lot about what you can give and what, how you can help others grow, like your whole perception of how life should be changed, like, especially for me, how to change your thoughts, how to trust your intuition, how to manifest. And it’s about you know, leading with your heart and giving all that you’ve got and yeah, yeah, totally, it was worth every penny. If you’re, don’t, be on the fence, just do it.

01:01:38 – Emily Aarons (Host)
Thanks. Well, thank you all for being here. I truly admire all of you individually as amazing practitioners and women. I love that you got to do this podcast with me. I love that we got to get together and me, I love that we got to get together and I’m really excited for what’s to come and for folks who’ve been interested in the training, you can get more information at emilyaronscom forward slash IEA and I am doing a brand new training just for folks who are on the wait list.

01:02:07
So if you are considering joining but you’re like not so sure, I am doing an exclusive workshop called breaking up with broke. It’s ushering a new era of impact driven coaches, healers and leaders. You can sign up for the wait list for IEA and we will send you the invitation to that workshop through that. So emilyerinscom forward slash IEA to get on that wait list for the workshop and to join the program when it does open, and we’ll open the doors on June 15th, so we’ll see you all then. Thank you all so much for being here. I love you all. We’ll see you either at the end of your programs or we’ll see you after. Either way, thanks again for being here everyone. Thank you Emily. Thank you Emily.

01:02:48 – Jamie LiCausi (Guest)
Thank you.

 

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Get ready to embark on an insightful journey with my dear friends, Whitney McNeill and Kristin Dwan, as we dissect and understand the concept of energy burnout. During this episode, we talk about our personal experiences with energy burnout and how it impacts our daily lives, relationships, and businesses.

We explore how our external world mirrors our energy and discuss the increased sensitivity many are experiencing about what’s real and what’s not.

We also discuss the power of rest and receptivity. We touch upon the importance of breaking free from the cycle of overworking, listening to our intuition, and taking the much-needed breaks to rest and recharge. A mantra that you may find helpful is “do less, be more, receive all”. As we journey through the conversation, we talk about releasing old paradigms and trusting that the universe will take care of us.

In the latter part of the episode, we draw parallels between the four phases of a butterfly’s transformation and our personal growth journey. As we share our experiences with each stage, you may find relatable insights for your own transformation journey.

Tune in to find ways to manage your energy better, thrive through transformation, and tap into your inner magic!

In the latter part of the episode, we draw parallels between the four phases of a butterfly’s transformation and our personal growth journey. As we share our experiences with each stage, you may find relatable insights for your own transformation journey.

Tune in to find ways to manage your energy better, thrive through transformation, and tap into your inner magic!

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  • [0:21:58] Phases of Personal Growth and Transformation
  • [0:31:07] Preparing for Flight

About Kristin and Whitney

Kristin Dwan is a Certified Hypnotherapist, Reiki Master/Teacher, Author and Public Speaker who specializes in soul-deep healing on the subconscious and ancestral level to release you from the blockages you have that keep you from the life, love, and joy you yearn to experience. She guides you to awaken within you the healing and wisdom that is yours to use to better your life and the lives around you.

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Unlock the mystique of crystals and bedazzle your business with the unique energy they provide!

This special episode promises to teach you the magic of incorporating crystals like Selenite, Smoky Quartz, and Fluorite into your business. Each crystal contains its own distinct properties such as enhancing communication, diminishing stress, as well as boosting focus and energy.

During this episode, I share some of my personal secrets on using crystals for business success. I talk about how to program crystals, harness the power of crystal grids, and meditate to tap into the energy of your crystal. Plus, there’s a bonus PDF shopping guide to help you source the best crystals and make the most of them!

Break away from restricting norms and let your spiritual side shine in your business persona.

Are you ready to infuse your business with a dose of magic and mysticism? Let’s begin!

Highlights you won’t want to miss:
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  • [0:12:54] Crystals for Protection and Healing

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Welcome to the Aligned and Unstoppable Podcast. I am your host, Emily Aarons, and this is the Spiritual Startup Series. So if you are a new entrepreneur or maybe you are still in corporate doing a little side hustle, or even if you’ve been an entrepreneur for a little while, I’m going to share five incredible episodes that are going to help you to use your intuition to build your confidence and ultimately to build a life and a business that you love.

So this week’s episode, I am focusing on crystals! – one of your favorite topics and definitely one of mine. So this is definitely more of a visual podcast. So for those of you who are just listening to this episode, I would definitely invite you over to my YouTube channel. So go to emilyaarons.com/youtube and watch this video. We will obviously share it in the podcast show notes, we’ll put a link to this video of course, if you are out walking, and you are listening, I want to watch it later.

Plus we are going to have a supplemental PDF. It’s going to have a shopping guide, where to find the best crystals, how to clear them, how to use them in your business. Some also like little secret of things I like to do with my crystals. That sounded bad, but it’s not.

Anyway. So let’s get into this week’s topic about how to use crystals in your business. So first and foremost, crystals are awesome. You know it and I know it. If you’re somebody who is new to using crystals, let’s start from the top. So basically, I like to use crystals for a number of reasons. One of the best things that you can do if you’re new to using crystals is have them around your house to, you know, add to the environment.

One of my favorite crystals I’m going to show on this video is Selenite. So this Selenite wand, you know, usually comes in these kind of like wands and they have these little lines on them. They’re very they tend to be kind of smallish, but there’s obviously all sorts of different sizes and shapes. Some are polish, some are rough. You can find them just about anywhere. But what I love about Selenite, and especially for business owners, is that Selenite helps with communication as well as clearing energy.

Selenite can also clear the energy of other crystals if you put it near it. So what I love about Selenite is I always have it near my desk. It helps with communication, it helps with that clarity. It’s a great one to have. If you don’t know anything about crystals, get some selenite.

But I also like crystals for other things. They obviously they boost my mood. They can help me to hold my intention, whether it’s for me personally, whether it’s on my body, whether I stick them in my bra or my pocket. And they also can set an intention for programs or offerings so that you don’t have to constantly be keeping your programs on your mind. You can set your intention and create even a crystal grid.

So I’m going to share some of my favorite crystals and sort of why they’re my favorite crystals. So I’m kind of going to just go randomly. So let’s say, yeah, let’s do this one first. So this one is a Smoky Quartz, it’s a cluster. And I actually bought this and No – I didn’t buy it, I got it as a gift. I take that back. I got this one as a gift. I did buy another pyramid-shaped smoky quartz. And I keep this on my husband’s bedside table.

So Smoky Quartz is great for letting go of stuff, and clearing the energy. And also, just before I keep getting into other crystals, let me just preface this and say I am not a certified crystal worker or whatever the certifications look like. I have definitely read a number of books about crystals. I talk about crystals in my Integrated Energy Alignment Practitioner Training a lot more in-depth, but this is more of like my personal view.

So if you’re one of those people who’s like, wanting to fact-check me, please, by all means, you’re welcome to look up the actual intention and meaning behind these crystals for yourself. And if what I’m sharing doesn’t resonate with you or doesn’t match a description you find on the Internet, please don’t come screaming at me. This is just my personal view and how I use them.

The other thing I want to invite you to do is have an open mind. Whether you’ve been using crystals for a while and you’re like, I already know what Smoky Quartz is for Emily, I don’t really need to hear about it. Maybe this is a new way that you could use crystals that you’ve never thought about. And I will provide a little bit more of like a meditation at the end of this episode so that you can start to channel energy from crystals to, so back to Smoky Quartz.

I really like this. It helps if you think about, like, letting go of the stressors of the day. That’s why I keep it on my husband’s bedside table, because sometimes he gets a little stress and it’s hard for him to let it go. So that’s why I use it for him. For me, in my business, I love smoky quartz, especially in a grid. If I’m making a grid for myself or for clients or for a program. I love Smoky Quartz because I feel like it’s easily programable. It’s given that intention of like, letting go of what doesn’t serve. So that’s what I love Smoky Quartz for.

This one right here, this is fluorite. So this is a heart-shaped, polished fluorite. It has really cool gray and teal, green and purple. Obviously, it’s really pretty. I love using fluorite in grids. I also love putting fluorite on my desk so when I’m working, it helps me to feel more focused, more aligned, more energetically charged.

I tend to feel like when I’m with fluoride, it’s like I’m more intellectual even. Now listen, you can probably look up the meaning of fluorite in going to say intuitive and sensitive and blah blah blah.

For me, this is how I feel around fluorite and I like using fluorite, like I said, and I mentioned grids a couple of times. So again, I will put in the PDF that you can download with this episode, sort of like a rough layout of what a grid might look like for you for a program.

All-time like classic favorite is a clear quartz and I am a trained polarity therapist, registered polarity practitioner, and advanced energy practitioner. And when I used to see clients in person, I had clear quartz crystals that I would place over their seven main chakras. And I also had one that’s actually over here, a bigger size that I would use to clear the space and to set my intention and moving the energy for clients in session.

That’s kind of why I love clear because it is like a magnifier. You can put it on an area to open up the energy to let things go. It’s easily programable, you know, different clear quartz have colors to them sometimes, and I find myself drawn to usually ones that you can kind of see through. This is unpolished. This is a rough sort of natural form and that’s why I’m really drawn to it.

Alternatively, this one is called a Lemurian Quartz. And from the video you can maybe see it has these little striations here, these little stripes along the side. And it’s been said, like when I first got this, I was really drawn to it and it’s been said to help clear past life karma. When you touch these little lines. I do find that when I’m doing a lot of Akashic work, I tend to be drawn towards this crystal.

And one of the things that I teach to my students, the Integrated Energy Alignment Students, is about how to use crystals in their practice. And also when you are drawn to a crystal for a client, what does that mean and how do you work with that? So, you know, my students are trained to channel even before their session starts.

So let’s say they’re channeling and they’re really drawn towards lemurian quartz that might automatically signal part of their brain to say, Oh, you know what, we might be working on some past life stuff today. We might be looking into the Akashic Records today because this crystal is the one that wanted to work with me. Okay?

We all know it,  we all know it. we all love it. It’s rose quartz. This is a nice, giant, unpolished rose quartz. This is a little one. You know what the size is what it is. But I love rose quartz. I tend to use this that resonates with heart. With your heart chakra with love, unconditional love. And again, whether you’re putting in a grid, you’re using it on yourself, you’re putting it on your desk, It really brings this loving energy. So let’s just say, for example, you are writing sales emails. Wouldn’t it be nice to work with a rose quartz so that you can bring more love and compassion to the words that you’re writing? It’s a really nice crystal for that.

And then Black Tourmaline, this is like another classic. Black tourmaline is great for protection. So let’s say you’re doing Instagram live, Facebook live, and who knows there’s going to be on there. Anybody on the Internet can open up your livestream and this is really great for protection. You think of it kind of it looks a little bit like coal. It’s very porous and you can think of similar to kind of like smoky quartz, but like even more so to rid any negative, harmful or unwanted energies from your field. This is a great one sometimes. I’ll even meditate with this before I start my work day, just to kind of let go of anything that doesn’t serve me so I can be fresh, clean and clear to start my workday.

And then we have amethyst. So these are all crystals so far that you’re probably familiar with. Amethyst is really great for healing. And so sometimes what I do, whether I’m writing an email, going on a live, maybe I’m interviewing somebody for my podcast or being interviewed, sometimes just holding on to an amethyst for security, for confidence, for helping me to heal many any like traumatized or wounded aspects of myself so I can show up pure and open.

This particular amethyst is a rough kind of uncut one. I do have a very small amethyst crystal that is polished and I love it. It’s very powerful. And I always program that crystal before I’m going to conferences or I’m going to speak on stages. I program it to hold my energy, my intention to be clear aligned and balanced, and to be the clearest conduit to provide information that is at the most truthful vibration, and that is helping people raise their consciousness with harm to none.

So I’ll program that crystal and help me to hold my container, and I like to slip it underneath my in underneath my boob, like in my bra. Sometimes I’ll put it in my pocket, but typically I’ll put it in my bra. And the reason why is because it’s an easy place for me that I don’t touch or fiddle with. When it’s in my pocket. I’ll probably like touch it and fiddle with it. What I notice when I wear polished crystals with a programmed intention is that I have better energy.

And so for folks who are really highly sensitive, the way that I am being in big crowds or conferences or speaking or just being out, lots of people in general can be sometimes overwhelming for my system, maybe for your system too. Having a crystal that you’ve programmed to hold your highest intentions and to hold your energetic container clear aligned and balanced is great. And so when you have that on you, it’s doing the work for you all the time. You don’t have to think about it and be like, Oh God, I got to clear myself again. I’m interacting with that person and it’s like, really got negative energy. Your crystal is already doing that for you.

So what I find is that if I weren’t using a programmed crystal before those kinds of events, I would feel really tired, maybe lethargic, drained, and just not interested in continuing to do these events. I’d have to like drag myself there the next day. But when I wear a crystal, I feel really good and I feel very balanced. Not like hyperactive, not super low, but like a nice middle. So I would definitely recommend it. Even if you’re doing virtual summits or virtual speaking events, having a crystal in your pocket or in your bra or in your lap is a really awesome tool to use. And it’s like a little secret weapon.

I also have one that’s a Danburite Crystal, and I feel like the Danburite Crystal. I don’t have it with me here. I think it’s actually my car. I feel like that helps me to access higher realms, spiritual realms, higher levels of intuition and using that crystal. When I’m wearing that, I feel not only am I energetically protected, but I also like extra charged and more intuitive and more in touch and more open. So these different crystals can help in different ways. I believe this is called the pit of light here.

This is a purple crystal and I bought this one at a period of time when I was having a lot of anxiety and stress in my business. Sales weren’t coming in the way that I was hoping. I was making huge changes and pivots, and I felt like I needed that, like rock, that security that would help me through that rough time. And I know for folks listening, you know, obviously, you know, your mental health is really important. And so there is lots of different ways that you can treat your mental health crystals is definitely been helpful for me, amongst many other rituals and practices that I do on a daily basis to help with my health, my well-being and all sorts of different things.

So again, I’m going to be sharing you with you a PDF shopping list that’s in the downloads. I’ll share all these crystals. I’ll even show you how to make a crystal grid for a program or a service if you’re interested in learning more about crystals. Of course, I have a really fun workshop that you can take. We’ll have all that linked in this podcast in the show notes. And next episode is all going to be around using pendulums in your business. So we’re going to be talking about pendulums.

We’re going to be talking about Oracle cards in these next series and obviously how to come out of your spiritual closet, because a lot of folks who follow me, maybe you have like a couple crystals, but it’s like on the DL and like, nobody knows about it. I’m going to share how I’ve come out of my spiritual closet and maybe some tips for you. And then we’ll also be closing on how to brand yourself using your intuition.

So again, this is part of the Spiritual Startup Series. I’m Emily Aarons. If you enjoyed this week’s episode, please leave me a five star review over on iTunes. Share this episode with a friend. Leave a comment. Let me know what was your favorite part? Was there any like A-H-A moments? And of course, grab that PDF shopping guide and download over on the website. Thanks again for being here. We’ll see you on the next episode.

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Emily Aarons is a highly sought-after intuitive healer and business coach for coaches, healers, and leaders. She’s best known for clearing the energy to guide her clients out of survival mode and unlocking alignment, abundance, and exponential growth in their business. With over two decades of experience, Emily has honed her healing skills to create the first and only energy-based certification with a profit guarantee; the Integrated Energy Alignment training.

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Journey Through Spiritual Awakening + Animal Medicine with Alyson Charles

Journey Through Spiritual Awakening + Animal Medicine with Alyson Charles

Journey Through Spiritual Awakening
+ Animal Medicine with Alyson Charles

Join us in an intimate conversation with the riveting Alyson Charles, celebrated shaman and healer, whose Ceremony Circle podcast is making waves worldwide. Ever wondered how the potent energy of animal spirits could transform your life?

Prepare to be mesmerized as we explore Alyson’s Animal Power Deck, a card deck that resonates with people of all ages, and hear captivating stories about interactions with animals in the wild.

Alyson’s journey is one of resilience and transformation, transitioning from a Division One college coach and personal trainer to awakening to her soul’s purpose as a medicine woman.

We delve into her past, divine intervention moments, and her evolution towards realizing her visions on stage. She recounts her shamanic initiation, the embracing of her spiritual gifts, and the significance of aligning with the higher self.

Dive deep into the realm of ancestral practices and rituals, as Alyson shares her connection with the ancient Dogon tribe from West Africa. We explore the powerful practices she employs to honor her ancestors, the importance of divine cycles, and how guidance from the Spirit can lead to personal transformations.

We’ll also discuss the challenges of divine alignment, the power of vulnerability, and trusting the Spirit’s messages.

Be sure to tune in to this enriching episode that promises to leave you inspired and uplifted.

Dive deep into the realm of ancestral practices and rituals, as Alyson shares her connection with the ancient Dogon tribe from West Africa. We explore the powerful practices she employs to honor her ancestors, the importance of divine cycles, and how guidance from the Spirit can lead to personal transformations.

We’ll also discuss the challenges of divine alignment, the power of vulnerability, and trusting the Spirit’s messages.

Be sure to tune in to this enriching episode that promises to leave you inspired and uplifted.

Highlights you won’t want to miss:
  • [0:10:04] Importance of Speaking Truth in Partnership
  • [0:14:06] Dove Journey and Burial Ceremony)
  • [0:21:27] Journey to Becoming a Medicine Woman
  • [0:24:31] Divine Intervention and Surrender to Spirit
  • [0:41:14] Uncovering Ancestral Rituals and Connections
  • [0:45:33] Ancestor’s Birthday and Offering Discovery
  • [0:53:47] Spiritual Awakening in New York City
  • [0:59:35] Phases and Chapters of Spiritual Journey
  • [1:02:47] The Power of Divine Alignment
  • [1:13:55] Animal Power Book and Shamanic Journey

Click here to read the full transcript ‣‣‣

Emily: All right, friends, welcome back to the Aligned and Unstoppable podcast. I am thrilled, overjoyed, ecstatic to welcome a special guest, Alyson Charles. And Alyson is somebody who I found a friend through a friend through a friend.

And when I stumbled upon I think it was your Instagram first, there was an immediate resonance like, Oh, yes, yes, yes, she’s here for big things. She’s a real one. She’s not one of those, I just found a crystal this weekend and now I’m a spiritual coach. It was not that, it was the opposite of like, Oh yeah, this is like, this is the real stuff. This is the real deal. And I immediately resonated with your energy. I found your podcast, which is, I think, one of the top spiritual podcast. What is your I mean, you’ve got a lot of great wins there. Could you share a little bit?

Alyson: Yeah, it’s called Ceremony Circle. Yeah. And it does really well all over the globe. And it, you know, features a lot of the most masterful and integrity-filled shamans and healers and spiritual teachers from everywhere. Yeah.

Emily: Yes. And I love the new intro that you’ve added as well. It sounds like it’s like more robust and like, I feel like I’m walking with you. I love that.

Alyson: Oh, that’s so hilarious that you said that, because first of all, no one’s ever commented. I mean, we really put a lot of intentionality into creating music just for this podcast. Like it’s it’s, you know, it’s just for this and a lot of back and forth, a lot of prayer on it. And I’m not kidding starting I think the next step was we took we basically took it out just to have it get to the interview faster. Yeah, the irony that is hilarious that for the first time someone’s like, I love your intro and now it’s no longer well, it’s partially there. It’s just not the full walking experience that you just commented on. Yeah.

Emily: Well, I think why I like it is because and I think what it, what lit up for me was like, this is an audio experience and as if you’re listening to a story open, you’re setting the tone. And I think it really, really connects with that Ceremony Circle energy of like, let’s walk, let’s sit, let’s be in nature. And it’s like, Oh yeah, I just I went for a walk listening to your podcast this week on Kakao. And so I was like, Oh, I really felt this really beautiful opening as you did that. So it’s fine.

Alyson: I’m always open to evolution, so maybe in two episodes will be right back to, you know, what it was. I’m just, you know, I always like to just test the water. So we’ll see.

Emily: Yeah, well, at least, you know, one person’s a fan.

Alyson: Yes 🙂

Emily: so very least 🙂 So Alyson’s here, and I have Alyson’s. And for those of you who are on video, emilyaarons.com/youtube if you’d like to watch this video and we’ll link it in the podcast show notes. But this is Alyson’s card deck. It’s called the Animal Power Deck. And I will be shuffling and pulling a card and inviting Alyson to do a reading.

But I also want to share I know I’ve messaged you on Instagram about this. My kids may have had their own game with your card deck that they’ve invented. I’ve actually done it with some of my retreats and essentially we’re able to connect with your cards and sort of do like this animal versus this animal. And the kids get to kind of feel into the energy of the animal and what skills that this animal have over this one or would they even meet. Is it possible in sort of in this way? So for me, as a as a mom of two young boys, this is a great game for them to play together. And it was totally unexpected. They made it up themselves so…

Alyson: Well,  shout out to what are their names?

Emily: Tristan and Graham.

Alyson: Shout out to Tristan and Graham. Thank you for your innovation. Yeah. When you messaged me that I wanted to know, I was like, what exactly are you all doing? Like, what is the game? That’s been one of truly the most beautiful aspects of having Animal Power book, which is the larger, more comprehensive guidebook. And then the deck that you have, you know, seeing people’s experiences and specifically kids.

I really had in mind when everything started to come together, the clarity that this would be the book, this would be the theme. I wanted it to have a very broad demographic. I wanted it to be beautiful so that people will would feel proud to have it in the middle of their homes on their main, you know, coffee table. But I also wanted it to resonate with kids because as we know, if we can allow them to stay in this divine alignment and stay connected to their gifts, all the better for the whole world. So, yes, seeing parents working with the deck with their kids has been maybe my like, favorite thing of all.

Emily: Oh, yeah. It definitely resonates with all of us. And we love watching nature programs together. We love going off on hikes together and exploring wilderness. For my birthday this year, we went to the deep woods in Maine just to find a moose, and we found a moose in the wild. And all of us were like Oh my gosh!

Alyson: Did you happen to message me that as well?

Emily: I might have.

Alyson: Somebody messaged me a few months ago, a whole moose, a live moose experience. And what, did I have a baby with it or no?

Emily: Not this one, no.

Alyson: Oh, somebody else said, Yeah, I get animal stories all the time.

Emily: Of course. So let’s see which card we got. We got ducks in the sacred union.

Alyson: Oh, that’s gorgeous. That’s very present. Well, for many things. My husband, Luke Storey, he and I, before we actually moved to Texas, we were on a walk. We used to live in Laurel Canyon in Los Angeles. And that’s where the download of the name Higher Power Couple came in. We were just strolling and I think it landed in me and I said it out loud and we knew we were on to something because both he and I, if anyone listening, knows either of us and listens to either our podcast, you know, the treacherous and arduous journey that both of us took individually through specifically romantic relationships to finally arrive to being in sacred union together. And so, yeah, we are just now starting to reach out to our audience, our email newsletter list, and see what people want, because in the spring we want to put on a sacred union higher power couple the retreat. So we’re trying to see what people want.

And then also very recently he and I went to a town we’ve never been to in Texas, and I just literally had one of the most fun days in memory because we walked upon a river and there were hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of gorgeous duck feathers everywhere. And I kind of wish I had it up here in my office. I put it in our bedroom because as you just showed, Duck represents, you know, healthy, sacred union. So I with the ducks all watching me. And with their permission, I gathered probably, I don’t know, close to 100 duck feathers and then did the whole ritual with them in my backyard and now have them in our home. And I love to gift feathers.

So anyways, that’s some of what instantly arose for me when you pulled that card. But let me see if Duck wants to come waddling in and has a specific message for this group that we’re sharing space with today for the listeners. One second.

Hmm… Well, the first thing that it did, there’s always like an initial messaging and then I can go deeper. But it came in and was quacking quite a lot. And you know, mah-mah-mah-mah! And I said, okay, you know what? What is the message with the quacking? What are you wanting me to relay? And it’s this extra importance. I mean, of course this is always important, but they’re stressing right now it’s more important than ever to speak your truth in your partnership.

I think so often that’s where some disturbance in the waves of the connection with you and your partner can start is when you stifle your expression, when you hold back on the truth that’s wanting to move through. Because it can, of course, be scary when we’re in sacred union, when we’re in romantic partnership. And, you know, there’s something very uncomfortable or vulnerable that you want to speak to and you don’t know how it’s going to be met. You’re just praying you’re in safe space to say it. You don’t know the reaction. The defense is like, there’s so much that can come with just speaking one thread of truth, but the duck is really coming in right now and saying, if there’s something that’s been weighing heavy on your heart, if even right now is you’re listening to what I’m saying, you can kind of feel your throat chakra kind of tightening or getting like a little quivering. There’s probably something that’s been brewing that needs to move through you and out of you.

And and so, you know, you don’t have to make it a big to do. But even in a quick one, two-minute meditation, you can maybe just tune in to what time of day would be best to bring to your partner’s attention that there’s something that you want to share. You know, maybe you don’t need to light a candle and, you know, make it ceremonial, but maybe you do. So maybe just take a couple of minutes to tune into a couple of things that would allow you to feel and your partner to feel and just safe-held, divine space to allow whatever this truth is that needs to be expressed to move through.

Because it’s really true. When you stifle and suppress your expression, it can cause really severe physical illness and ailments when it’s suppressed, you know, when something very deep is suppressed or if it’s suppressed long term. So it’s it is a big deal. So thank you duck, for coming in. Quacking quacking in for us.

Emily: You’ve duck and we have two baby ducklings at the farm right now.

Alyson: Oh sweet.

Emily: They just hatched. And it’s been my dream that we can hatch them, you know, that they naturally hatch them on their own. And we’ve had ducks for about 8 years, and this is the first year that they’ve ever successfully hatched on their own.

Alyson: Wow. An 8-year journey. That’s really powerful.

Emily: Yeah.

Alyson: So, do you name? Before we started recording, you were sharing some of the animals you have, are some named or are they all named?

Emily: Some are named. So the chickens there’s a lot of chickens and they don’t have names and the ducks don’t have names, but used to have some that had names that were like really remarkable, you know, that they stand out or they have some sort of quality that they’re like, okay, that one. So we had like a giant peacock named Tessa, and she just was like dhat-dhat-dhat like, you know, she would like stretch. She had a name, she had an aura and just a personality. All of our goats are named, so we have 9 goats. They’re all named. And we just had two sets of baby twins.

Alyson: Wow.

Emily: Yeah.

Alyson: So, so remarkable. Yeah. Luke and I don’t have all of that, but we do have a lot of action here on our land here in Texas. In fact, this morning, the reason I, you know, landed right at the start of our interview and was kind of sweaty and disheveled is because I had been burying a dove in our backyard, a pigeon. And I’ve been we’ve been on this whole dove journey this past week. We are tending to one that is unable to fly and like becoming its family and putting a bath out for it. And of course, food and checking on it. And when the gardeners come, it’s like this whole thing of like this part of our yard land is off limits, like she can’t fly. And so we’ve just been on this whole journey.

And yeah, just this morning I was doing a bit of a burial ceremony and we’re able to clip I, of course, got permission from from the bird, but we got both of its wings. And so, yeah, I feel like it’ll be really happy to know that part of it will continue to live on and be of service.

Emily: Of course, absolutely. And this is such a beautiful, you know, start of our episode and I would love for our listeners to hear a little bit more of what brought you to this place, a little bit of your background and, you know, sharing. What brought you to this point where you became a shaman and now a speaker and, you know, really spreading your wings a little bit more to go with that?

Alyson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because you shared with me more of the focal point of your podcast and your audience. I’ll try to gear because there’s, of course, so much to share with how I arrive to this now moment. So I’ll try to take the bullet points that are most themed with like entrepreneurship, because that is a big through line theme. So yeah, I love to share the infinite possibility medicine that I really carry when it comes to one’s calling and career because I have lived so many lifetimes this lifetime.

And I grew up in a tiny little town in the Midwest town that had like one stoplight. And I was, you know, I was about to say I was bred to be an elite athlete, which felt weird, but it actually is an accurate statement. My father was my coach and put me in my first road race before I was even 3 years old. And I was, you know, eventually became, you know, won a couple of national championships and was an athlete at the University of Alabama. And I did go on to be a Division One College coach. And so, you know, there was that incredibly hardcore entrenched identity for so long, since before my memories even began, I was known as this runner girl. This, you know, is so much pressure. And I really thought that, you know, that that would just probably be what it always was, you know, as long as my body could withstand that.

But what was intriguing is all I do remember as a younger girl, I don’t know the exact age, but I want to say maybe starting around like 6, 7, 8 years old, I would get these flash visions of me speaking to camera, holding a mike, but I just equated it to, Oh, maybe when my body breaks down, I’ll become a sports broadcaster, Right? Because that would be the natural segway.

Emily: Right.

Alyson: And so I was shown early on that media was in the mix somehow for me. (Excuse me.) And then, yeah, it was a bit after my body started to break down. Like basically it got me through my college running career and then it just everything just had a femoral stress fracture. Knee surgery. Yeah.

Emily: Oh!

Alyson: Things got pretty intense. Yeah. And then the funny thing is, I then after completing my time at Alabama, I moved to Florida and my first job out of college was being the head personal trainer at a gym in downtown Orlando. And funnily enough, it was one of my clients that I was personal training. One day in a session he said to me, I think he just a light bulb went off. I don’t think it was a premeditated thing, but he was he looked at me, he said, You know what, you should be my radio show co-host.

And so people always ask me like, how did you get your start in radio and TV? And I’m like, literally a man walked into a gym. You know, it really was that the case. And so I did become a radio host in Florida, and then I got hired at a hip-hop station, and I was the morning show host there for many years. And that was a super fun job. And then I started to feel a little bit stifled by it being only audio because I’m just a very creative and expressive person. So I then moved to New York City and I became a television producer and a television host for a daytime TV talk show there.

But then the other important thing that through a lot of what I’ve just shared with you career-wise, the other huge thread that was woven in was this very long-term previous, like past romantic relationship that started when I was in college at 18 and then ran, you know, the span of about 16 and a half years altogether.

And in that past relationship, you know, there was just so much suffrage denial. My past partner really suffered from a lot of different addiction issues. I suffered from a lot of lack of self-worth, self-honor, codependency, denial issues, illusionary issues. And so it really and I’m very clear here and I had a lot of karmic cleaning up that we were we’re doing this lifetime.

So it was kind of the perfect storm that led me to when I was in New York City. I eventually required a divine intervention from all of my guides. One day they came in and my clear audience gift turned on. I heard Spirit speaking to me in my right ear, and I was given certain instructions.

And through those instructions, the veil of illusion lifted and my egoic shell got obliterated and I finally was able to see the truth of me, him, the relationship. 1So I know I’m packing in a lot, but there, you know, there was a lot that led me to and of course, I’m like leaving out a million pieces.

Emily: Right.

Alyson: I just I think, you know, especially with a theme of your show, just to let people know, you know, I was like only in athletics. I was a Division One college coach. This personal trainer somehow got shifted into the radio studio, then got shifted into the television world in the television studios. Then I had this unexpected divine intervention, spiritual awakening.

And not long after that day, I mean, within that month, I was shown visions of who I really am, what my real calling is. You know, I was shown right out of the gate, me on stage with sacred sense wafting in the air, you know, thousands of people in the audience with rattles and shamanic instruments and, you know, shamanic medicine, songs playing. I was shown that vision, I think, within the week of my awakening, and I was like, hold on. So I’m here sobbing in my grandma’s guest bedroom, you know, just having my whole entire existence turned upside down, facing the darkness of all these addiction issues, you know, grappling with so much. And you’re showing me on stage as a medicine woman. So you can imagine to bridge the gap from that moment to actually living out those visions, It was it’s been quite a journey.

Emily: Yeah. Well, so I definitely want to talk about that. You know, it’s funny, when you were starting to talk about being bred to be a runner and that later as you were talking, I could feel like the tightening in my jaw, like the clenching and it’s like this holding in and tightness and rigidity. And who I see you now is so connected and so in her element and so flowing and now I mean a different person that you use to be.

Alyson: Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. I just had this wild a lot of my shamanic evolutions initiations rites of passage just come in naturally organically. You know, people ask me all the time, like when you just shared that story of that initiation, like, where were you in the jungle somewhere? Like, No, I was in my studio apartment in Brooklyn or No, I was in my bedroom.

And I bring that up because just two nights ago I think it was, yeah, not last night, but the night before we are. Luke and I were going to bed and I could tell he had just fallen asleep. And all of a sudden, you know, Spirit came to me and just took me through. I think it was about an hour and a half, totally natural, spontaneous, shamanic journey where I was being taken to and reflected to all of these past scenarios and experiences. Many of them that I completely forgotten even happened.

And basically what I have come to why that happened is Spirit really wanted me to understand how far I’ve come and the darkness and, you know, shadows and just all that I had to rise from the ashes, from. It was not just pertaining to that past 16 year dark relationship. There was a multitude, a magnitude of very dysfunctional dark life experiences, whether it was past work environments, past, you know, living environments. But it was really astounding. I just for an hour and a half just in, is such a healthy, healing clearing way. Just cried and wept and wept and wept and to allow this journey to take place. And it just gave me this much broader, bigger understanding of how much I have truly trudged through and how far I’ve come this lifetime.

Because exactly to your point, you know, in choosing the athletic path and choosing to maintain a relationship with my dad as my coach, that came at the cost of suppressing my true spiritual gifts, my connection with the divine. It came at a very large cost, and that little runner girl had the weight of the world on me. Like truly so much pressure to always win. I would throw up at the beginning of most races like it was. It was a very pressurized and tense. Trauma-inducing at times journey. So yeah, I’ve come a long way.

Emily: You definitely have. And thank you for sharing that. That’s so kind for you to open up in that way. And I mean, you can definitely you’ve definitely painted the picture. We can feel that energy that you were a part of.

So thank you for, for openly sharing that. When you had that sort of clear audience moment and the light bulbs are going on, all of a sudden the signs and signals were abundantly clear, undeniable, and it turns your whole life upside down. And we have this immediate spiritual awakening. How did that feel? Did you question it? Did you like, what am I how? What did some people see those things and they go, No, that’s not for me. That was and they deny it. And it takes a long time to kind of come to terms with that other people embrace and go, okay, this is for me, I’m ready, I know. Was there a part of you that had that knowing and said, Yeah, this is for me, let’s go for it? How did you…?

Alyson: Well, I was that other person you described that just pushed the very loud and clear messages to the side. And I did that for so many years. That’s why it required this massive divine intervention. So, you know, had I more intently listened to the more preliminary guidance that had been trying to come through for years, I don’t know that I would have gotten pushed into that divine intervention situation.

But yeah, on that day, you know, I was I was literally through spirit speaking to me, led to his phone. I didn’t know his code. I punched in for numbers like automatic spirit writing. It opened his phone. So for me, it wasn’t just like a whisper of the wind. It was also so literally, graphically, horrifically, you know, in my face that it was undeniable, both on an earthly realm and on a spiritual realm. And yeah, you know, all of my guides really came ushering in that day. So I think in just all of the different realms, it was this massive wave of support that came in that would not allow me to go back to that cycle of insanity that I had kept swirling in for 16 years.

And so I really felt on that particular day, I mean, yeah, there was no questioning what was happening. And it was so intense that the next key step for me was just finally surrendering and speaking. My willingness of true surrender to great spirit, to earth mother and to my own self, to my own heart and soul, and finally saying, okay, I clearly need help, I clearly need support.

I’m finally ready to get out of my own way and I will heed your messages and that oath I have lived in complete devotion to. And that is what I attribute, you know, all of my you know, my definition of success has really drastically changed throughout the years. And so what I deem success, I owe it all to this path of devotion to living by the instructions of spirit and I owe all my true inner fulfillment and inner peace and happiness to that as well.

Emily: That’s beautiful. What would you say your definition of success is today?

Alyson: Oh, gosh. I mean, it’s like it’s a lot of different things, but it’s right now it’s just the simplicity of life. It’s I mean, truly, if someone would ask me, you know, what’s your idea of a good time? Like, I literally described it earlier, it would be picking feathers off the ground. It would be connecting in an honoring way and burying the pigeon and the backyard. It would be, you know, snuggling with my silly, sweet, hilarious family.

This, you know, an almost 17-year-old black Persian cat named Jelly Bean. And there are silly little doggies laying in the background of this video Cookie and my beautiful husband, it’s like little snuggles with my family and, you know, just being more feral and wild and free. You know, I spend most of my days just completely naked in the backyard and just, you know, speaking to the wind and just crying and gratitude and, you know, so all of these examples are what I deem as living a successful life right now. It’s not at all the winning the National championship awards and all of that stuff. It’s changed a lot.

Emily: I’m sure. And you know, it’s interesting. I lead I have a small group coaching program that kicks off next week and we did a pre-call yesterday and I took them. Through meditation and sort of releasing some of the things that have been blocking them previously and connecting them with their higher self to get these direct messages of who their higher self wants to be each and every day. How does their day begin and how does it flow? What does that look like? And I like to kind of jokingly say, well, your higher self is giving you a punch list. It’s your choice if you like to do it or not. And then you can see, well, am I in alignment or am I not? Well, you got ten items. Did you do all ten or did you do any? So it’s as simple as that.

And I think something that that’s sort of characteristic of myself as I can take these sort of esoteric concepts and make them very grounded and tangible down to earth. And as each of the different members was sharing, you know, they were saying, I saw myself eating fresh foods, fresh fruits and vegetables. I saw myself adding a meditation practice throughout my day, not just once in a while. I saw myself really sitting outside and connecting with nature. I saw myself doing yoga. And it’s really interesting when instead of saying what is success for you?

And all most entrepreneurs are taught is to focus on financial gains and growth and scaling. And this is a whole different angle to take. Where do we want to begin? As how do I want to feel and how can you build your life based on how your high yourself is leading here to flow?

Alyson: Yeah, how? I mean, to me, I can’t imagine anything more powerful or successful than living in direct accordance with divinity.

Emily: Right.

Alyson: How can it how can anything possibly be larger, more grand, richer, more robust than you truly living out the soul and coding and mission that your own soul devised in the ethers and you’re actually living in physical fruition on this earth plane? You know, there’s nothing there’s nothing more powerful than that.

Emily: Absolutely. And I have to say, you know, this is the first summer that I’ve had with my kids out of school that I have genuinely, truly and deeply enjoyed all of our time together because I have implemented these practices on such a regular, consistent level that I’m excited to go explore. I’m wanting to show them places that we can find new trails together and be outside and talk to rocks and listen to messages coming from birds and oh, what’s that animal? Let’s see what the medicine is that they’re sharing with us and, you know, having these profound conversations that I would have probably had moments of. But it’s becoming more ingrained in all of our lives on how we are all together as a unit.

And, you know, being with my family, it’s like every day I say it’s when I put my kids to bed, I say, What’s your favorite part of today? What was the thing you’re most grateful for? And I used to always say, Well, right now, today, right now, this moment, nothing better than right now. And now they’re saying it this right now. This is nothing better than right now. But also and then they have these long list of things that they’re really present for and that they can share back with me. I’m like, oh,  this is the best. This is the best. There’s nothing better than this.

Alyson: Yeah, that’s so that’s so beautiful and inspiring. You are able to talk with your boys in that way. And yeah, I was just, you know, in our backyard yesterday, floating in the pool. I think partially because of that, you know, long shamanic journey I had just been on and that all those reflection points and bigger picture awareness of how far I’ve come, I just I reflect, you know, you know, so clearly on how I really, truly am living my dream life like, I am at peace with myself. You know, I’m so clear and who I am and that I’m a really good person and a really powerful, wonderful human. But I’m also a forever, you know, humble student of life as well.

And I just have this husband who celebrates me and, you know, fans my flame and uplifts me, you know, because I know what it feels like to be in relationships where they try to tether you back or hold you down or suppress your fire, your light. And he’s the complete opposite. And I just it was basically exactly what you were describing.

I thought, wow, you know, just being present to the gratitude that I’m truly living my dream life, that if nothing more happened, I’m in a state of total, wild, wondrous awe. And, you know, but also tuning in to like, if I were able to bring forth, you know, our spirit baby and allow that spirit with me to come Earthside, that would be a bonus to this ultimate dream life I already have, you know, potentially getting back on camera. I feel so at home in the studio.

And I know there’s obviously a reason that before I had my awakening I was a radio and TV host. And so allowing the project to come back into earthly existence where I’m hosting in a studio again, that would be a bonus to this already dream life. So I spent my day yesterday doing what you do with your voice.

Emily: Yeah, that’s beautiful. Well, and that brings me to another question I have, because I’ve been recently. So I would say this I have in the past had a bad habit of being complacent with my gifts. And I’ve had moments of I’d be traveling. All of a sudden spirit wakes me up out of a dead sleep and is like, we’re going somewhere. This is what’s happening. And I can’t I’m uncontrollably sobbing because it’s shattering every it’s just incredibly in I don’t know, have words to it. I can’t have words. So it’s just so amazing. Show me my path and open up these gifts. And here’s what’s going to happen. Here’s who you are and you’ve been chosen and weaved. All of this can be so overwhelming.  And I’ve had times in the past where I was complacent and lazy about sitting for myself, making that space for myself, and I could channel and do work. And he’ll do energy healings for other people, but I wouldn’t make the space for myself.

And recently I had a session with a woman and she said, You know, it’s time to get back to doing this work for yourself, connecting with yourself, doing your own practices, automatic writing and channeling and sitting. And I knew she was right because I had said that about myself for so long. And one of the things that came up in this session I had with her was a connection with my lineage and of my ancestors. And it was she was sort of channeling and she asked me about my lineage. And I said, well, this is what I do now. But most of my life I’ve kind of been hiding. I really don’t even know. And she kind of started this sort of train of like just channeling, talking, and she mentions this phrase around, and I’m going to probably butcher. I don’t have it exactly.

It was something that, like they veiled you, they had to cover you and cloak you. When she said these words, it wasn’t like I felt sadness, but bubbling up. It was like my face exploded in tears of that truth and a deep resonance like, Wow, this is more than what I thought it was. And so she invited me to start working more with my ancestors and connecting with my lineage and opening up in that way. And since then and I’m actually I was called to wear my grandmother’s bracelet today.

Alyson: What’s her name?

Emily: Her name was Laney. Yeah. And so I work with her all the time. And this was sort of this next opening of like, can we just talk with the ancestors every day and not do like a special sun or whatever a day it is? And so I, I feel like maybe this is more selfish for me to ask this question. Also, I’m sure my audience would benefit from it, but how are there some ways that you feel are how we can connect with our ancestors?

We’ve them into our day. You kind of mentioned like, well, maybe one day with this. And I know for me one of the things that I work done just today is connecting with them and asking for their assistance and guidance to help open doors and make new connections and create new opportunities that would be in my highest alignment. What are some ways that you do or maybe work with ancestors? I don’t know if this is like a weird loaded question or not.

Alyson: You know, it’s not as I’m laughing. I’m only laughing because I wore this mud cloth, this doggone mud cloth, because I just I, I don’t think I’ve ever worn this for an interview. But when I went in my closet, I’m like, I think I supposed to wear that doggone dress today. And now I’m understanding why. That’s why I’m chuckling.

So, I mean, yeah, a lot was coming to me when you’re asking me that, but I’ll start with honoring the Dogon Tribe, the Dogon on the edge. They are a very, very, very ancient lineage out of Africa right now, they primarily inhabit West Africa, but that lineage works incredibly deep with ancestral ways, ancestral reconnection. And so I, I mean, I’ll share a few different things, but I would recommend, of course, if it’s in resonance, to do a little research on the Dogon, and I can point you right in the direction I yeah, the website is dogonwisdom.com  D-O-G-O-N, dogonwisdom.com.

And yeah so just a few weeks ago a Dogon high priest by the name of Naba Iritah Shenmira. He and I did a whole ceremonial day together here in Austin where people could come. We had a very large group in attendance with us and a lot of it, you know, we did a lot of different things. That day was an all day like 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. ceremonial day, but a lot of their rituals and practices are all geared towards lifting up your ancestry.

And that’s why that’s such a vital importance. And you know, he’s episode,  I think maybe 110, 107 on my Ceremony CirclePodcast you can get to know him and feel into their ways by hearing that discussion.

But yeah, before he and I did our ceremony day, I was able to just spend time with him and he was here at our home doing an Earth Energy Reading for me and also one for my friend and for Luke. And a lot of specific instructions came through for me in that reading from Naba regarding my ancestry and just the other day. So I got basically like from that reading this homework of, of specific rituals prescribed to me from Naba, things that I need to do so that my ancestors feel seen, acknowledged, honored, lifted up, lift, lift your ancestry up. And it took me after that reading and receiving that homework on this wild journey of uncovering and excavating more of my understanding of who, my who my people are. Because he said to me, There is an aunty on your father’s side.

I’ve always wondered, you know, Yes, I have an aunt who’s a shaman, but she’s not my blood aunt, she’s my aunt by marriage. And so I’ve always wondered, you know, are my gifts carried through my bloodline or was it just a specific calling for me? I mean, I’ve done this work for many lifetimes, but I was like, I’ve always questioned like, is it also bloodline related? And when my Grandma Bernice passed, I got very clear that I had received some of my gifts from her. So I just kind of thought it was her. But then he said, No, there’s an auntie on your dad’s side, that is, who carries the responsibility of these gifts that you now have. You need to find her and we need to do a specific ritual just for her. And what was while I’ll wrap this story up, because it’s a bit of a long one because I’m deep in all of these Dogon ways at this time.

But what was so intriguing is after this discussion, I got a message that. A family member on my dad’s side that I have not spoken to or heard from in more than 20 years was wanting to get in touch with me. And so then I was able to ask her, like, Do you know of any great or great, great aunties on Grandpa Bob’s side? And she was able to point me in this direction. Then in that direction, this person had that missing link and key.

And so get this, I’m sitting naked in my backyard, you know, trying to connect these dots because I want to do this calabash bole offering for this, you know, mystery ancestor. And I know I need nine sugar cubes, nine colon nuts, nine cowry shells, white rice, nine dates. And I put them all in this like it’s this very the Dogon ways are very specific. So I’m like, ready to do this whole offering, put it in this grotto. But I’m like, who is this auntie? And a relative on my dad’s side who?

I finally asked, do you know of any great auntie? She sent me a picture of a gravestone marker and it said Dorothy and my birth last name on it. And I was like, could it potentially be Dorothy? Is Dorothy the carrier of these shamanic gifts? So I was sitting kind of in prayer and asking Dorothy, I said, today, I want you to emphatically, clearly let me know if you are the one. So I sent that prayer up.

Then I go into my email and I see like, Oh, on August 1st is the such and such Leo Supermoon. So then I go into my phone to plug in on August 1st to remind myself that that’s the day of the Supermoon. And I saw that I had designated August 1st whether I knew the name of this ancestor or not. I was designating that day as the ancestor Calabash Ball offering that I already marked it on August 1st, and I was like, wait a second, I marked August 1st. But that’s also the day of the Supermoon.

Why is August 1st ringing a bell? I go back to the gravestone picture. Dorothy’s birthday is August 1st. So I was able, on Dorothy’s birthday, though the carrier of the shamanic gifts of my bloodline, I was able on her birthday to give this offering. What are the chances of that?

Emily: Oh, my gosh.

Alyson: Yeah.

Emily: Wow.

Alyson: So I share part of that huge story to let you know that. Yes. When you say yes to this work and you find the pathways, whether it’s doing a family constellation workshop, which side note I highly recommend if you feel called into that work, which I do recommend because it’s incredibly, incredibly deep and powerful. But make sure you work with a practitioner who is super pure, clean and integrity-filled because that work is profound. And if you don’t have an integrity-filled facilitator, it can it can not be pretty.

So yeah, so I would recommend going into Family Constellation workshop, also going to dogonwisdom.com, checking out Naba’s Instagram and just seeing yeah because he offers you can get an earth energy reading from him. I sound like a Dogon Ambassador but I guess I kind of him at this point.

Emily: Hey, that’s all right.

Alyson: So, yes, those are two recommendations. Um, what else with ancestry? Yeah, It’s like – but creating a small altar is also incredibly powerful because, again, it’s like our ancestors. You know, I think so often. You know, we’re trying to, like, clear our lineage traumas and the addictions of our ancestors. And yet that work is obviously incredibly powerful and needed.

But we somehow skip out on her, forget like the honoring of all the gifts that our ancestors of bestowed upon us. Like, maybe you’re a painter and it’s because, you know, great, great Grandpa Joe like, used to be in museums and it’s like, okay, Grandpa Joe, you know, was an alcoholic, but he also, you know, you got your painting skills from him. And so I think just spending time not leaving out and skipping over and forgetting that, you know, ancestry work is not about only about just clearing the wounding and the traumas. It’s also about including an up in uplifting our ancestry as well.

And so one simple way is just creating a small altar space, you know, maybe putting some photos if you have them maybe writing, writing a short letter or a poem, you know, an owed to your lineage thinking that’s just speaking the speaking aloud, lighting a candle, maybe putting some fresh flowers.

And yeah, I feel like there’s one other thing. One powerful thing that I did was going to a tree. I mean, obviously can make the correlation family tree and really, you know, designating a tree I left offerings there for. I asked the tree permission first, I was like, you know, because I tuned in and I felt like this one was the one and affirmed it when I asked. And so I just yeah, I just went and prayed into the roots of that tree and left the offerings there and, you know, just asked for it to be another beacon of light and communicator to my ancestors, letting them know that they are seen, they are heard, they are acknowledged, they are uplifted. So I hope those are some good, good inspiration ways.

Emily: Yeah, absolutely. And you know, it’s interesting. I when I first sat, sometimes when I do automatic writing, I will type on my computer because it’s faster than handwriting things out. And my handwriting sometimes is illegible when I’m channeling.

Alyson: Yeah, yeah.

Emily: So I brought my computer and I called in my ancestors who wanted to work with me, and it was like, no, no computer. So I put the computer aside and I pulled up my phone to do a voice memo and I said, I’ll just speak into my phone. I won’t need to write anything. And for about 30 minutes, I’m audibly channeling, connecting, talking, and receiving information.

And this grandmother, like maybe even my great great grandmother energy, she showed up as Bubbie and she’s like, if you can imagine, like this little old lady, but with the energy of like a five-year-old and she’s like this bubbly, effervescent, playful, and she’s like, When you’re ready, just put that thing down.

I want to play and took me on this journey in time. But it did show me these beautiful experiences from past and going through like snow days and coming up through these special sacred caves and then going to because we have my family, we’re early settlers in Tucson, Arizona, and she showed me coming in them and going there and working with indigenous people from the land and working with the land and then coming back and showing me here today. Here are some things I want you to do today.

And it was like this, like time-bending, swirly extravaganza. I mean, I felt like I was on a roller coaster. I was flying, I was swimming, I was all over. And I felt like that was that first opening. So I feel like the things that you’ve shared have are just like, Oh, there’s some more things that there’s a lot of more work to do and to open to that.

Alyson: I can’t think of a more powerful opening gateways to getting to know and connecting with and honoring our ancestors than the Dogon traditions and family constellation work. And yeah, working with trees. Yeah.

Emily: Oh yeah. And trees have been very, very instrumental for me, especially in the last few years. I remember when 2020 was happening and things were kind of swirling, there was this huge pine tree that pulled me in on a walk and just said, Wrap your arms around me. And I wrap my arms around this tree. And the tree just showed me seasons. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And it’s like we’re not going to cry when the leaves fall off Or when the snow comes just to see us then. And I was like, Oh, thank God. And I just could take a breath and get back into listening again, versus like that swirl of energy that was happening.

Alyson: Yeah, I think that’s an important point to bring up the just honoring the cycles of of nature and of divinity, because that that was a huge thing for me. A quick story which I think could be of service for your listeners. So when I was living in New York City for like 14, 15 years, that’s where I had my divine intervention. You know, New York City is a vortex. It’s an incredibly powerful place. A lot of people do have their spiritual awakenings there. And, you know, so then, you know, my life changes and I’m walking this completely different path. And let’s fast forward a number of years. You know, I’m out as a shaman out publicly doing this work.

And at this point, you know, I’m collaborating with a lot of the biggest brands in the entire globe, if I’m just completely honest, whether they’re fashion brands or hotels or products like, you know, we would work together to put on these like monthly shamanic journey gatherings on hotel rooftops and, you know, just all of these ceremonial things. And this was happening a lot. You know, I was doing a lot of different things, giving a lot of different talks, very, very out, very active with this work. It was in high demand.

And I’ve been doing this work and on the path for a very long time. So, you know, I was really at the forefront, you know, kind of carving the path for, you know, now, you know, this work is is a lot of places. But back when I’m talking about like no one was doing this and I was doing it a lot. And one day I got this message from Spirit that I was supposed to cease all events and all talks.

And I thought, well, okay, you know, I live in devotion to your instructions, but at the same time, I’m also a single woman living on my own and arguably the most expensive city in the entire world. How am I supposed to completely just squash all events and talks, which is where I was able to make a living? And so I said, okay, you know, I will do this, but then I need you to show me the way on how I’m supposed to survive. And so I stopped and turned down. And of course, you know, the way Spirit works, it can be quite funny. It will give you an instruction and then it’ll dangle the shyness that carrots…

Emily: she has to offer

Alyson: Oh, my God. I got the most incredible, you know, talk offers coming in, you know, travel. You here do this, you know, brand partnership deals coming in. And I’m like, you’ve got to be kidding me. But I knew I had to do so. I said no to all of them, completely cleared. Feel like I just.

Oh, there’s like, an animal. I think it’s a crow. No, no, if you can hear it, but…

Emily: I just heard you. Yeah.

Alyson: Kind of want to go peek and see if it’s. Can I speak really quickly?

Emily: Yeah, yeah

Alyson: Just one second. I just wanna see.

Emily: It sounds really cool.

Alyson: So I was just curious if it was like right outside my window. I can’t locate it, but it’s squawking in pretty loud, so.

So long story short, I honored the Divine Instructions and for years. And here’s the other thing. When you’re living in accordance with the divine, you also don’t get given timelines really such. And so I didn’t know how long they meant like how are we talking is the no events, no public ceremonies and no talks. Is that like three months? It ended up being two and three-quarters years, almost three full year.

So imagine, you know, that’s I was really just organically like my name was getting out there, all this organic process and then I’m just supposed to like stop it all and squash it all. And, and I did do that for, like I said, almost three years.

And what was intriguing is in the midst of that very deep shamanic cave period is what I call it, I’m just focusing deeper than ever on my own shadow work and doing the deepest healing work of my life.

The idea that they gave me in order to survive was with my background. I studied telecommunications, PR, got my degree in advertising, and I was able to launch. I don’t do it anymore, but I called it shamanic PR, and so while I was not out there, I was able to use my other skill sets to get other healers and shamans out there and to teach them, you know, how to get book deals, how to give talks, how to, you know, how I could share my press connections.

And so I was able to focus on the shadow work in the healing work that I needed to do to get even stronger embodiment and anchor in more deeply so that I concerned when I was finally out of this cave period. And then I was able to support others in getting their light out more. So I share that because like, you know, honoring, honoring the cycles of the divine, honoring the cycles of nature, you know, and I’ve lived in accordance with that. And, you know, ever since my book and that came out a year and a half ago, like I’ve been very, very quiet. I have, like I said, just been sitting naked in the backyard and just waiting. You know, I was called to do the ceremonial, the Dogon Ceremony Circle event with Naba and I devoted to putting in a lot of work and effort to to putting that on. So I said yes to that.

But there’s going to be phases and chapters where, like you said earlier in the talk, like sometimes the visions and the instructions and the guidance just ping, ping, ping, ping, ping! And when I was in New York City, like that’s how it was operating, just like just so clear, just on the go, moving and groovin, moving and groove and then boom, one day I’m told to stop. And then for three years it’s inward cave zone.

And then, then I come out and then right after that, the publishers were knocking on the door and, and I was working on, you know, getting the book deal finalized. And then I went into another different chapter where for, you know, a long time I was at a desk quiet, writing the book and the deck. And then when that comes out, you’re out again.

Emily: Right.

Alyson: Then I’m healing from that. And so, you know, because I’ve been on this path for well over a decade at this point, it’s like I’m able now to share, you know, that when it happens like this, it doesn’t mean you’re doing anything wrong or anything’s off or you’re right on time, you’re right on track, you’re exactly where you need to be.

It’s just we are divine, feminine and masculine. There’s going to be times where you need to rest, nourish. And those sacred rest times, I have to say, do not let them fool you. Those are actually the times where I know the most is happening within me. And the most power the truest divine power is actually being garnered inside of me. So that when you are instructed and called to be more out again, you are in deeper integrity and deeper embodiment of what you are trying to teach than ever before.

Emily: Absolutely. I absolutely agree. And I would love to sort of close this because I think it’s been brought to this beautiful place of following cycles and listening and tuning in. I know a lot of my listeners have a bit of a struggle between do I follow this guidance and this calling? Do I get a plan B? Like what is the plan B? And when you said like, okay, we got to shut her down, you were like, and then now what do I do?

Alyson: Yeah, yeah.

Emily: And so I think it’s very personal for everybody. Every individual is different of, you know, what path they go and how are they going to be able to survive. And I really believe part of my work here is to shatter and to transform some of these broke healer paradigms that have been really ingrained for so long and keeping amazing healers in hiding and keeping them shunned from their tribes and from being visible and from doing the work they’re here to do. So for the people. I don’t know if there’s any piece of advice or wisdom that you would like to share with.

Alyson: Well, I mean, so much this right here could have been our entire podcast, to be honest. Like, I mean, I can speak to 4 hours on end because yeah, a lot.  And let me preface by saying these examples that I’m about to give. It does not mean that they’re guaranteed to happen to you or anything. It’s just I’m only speaking from my personal earthwalk and aligning with my true soul’s calling and mission, but a lot. There’s a lot that can happen when you finally allow yourself to get into true divine alignment with your true divine light, true divine power, true connection to the divine. Like when you are in those most pristine, clear, powerful places, there’s a lot, infinitely a lot that can come with that.

So just know that there is a chance that and again, I’ve noticed it so much in my work. I am a bright light. I’m a big divine force. I was just designed that way. I have accepted it. And along with that territory comes my light shines a big old light on people’s shadows and triggers. And it shines a huge light on what is no longer working inside of people. And when you are a medicine person, a medicine man, a medicine woman, and you are in embodiment of your true divine power and light. It can create a reaction in people and depending upon where they’re at and knowing themselves how deep they are on the path, they may not recognize at all that this wave that’s welling up inside of them simply by being in your presence is a medicine wave.

And that this projection, this anger or this burst of anger that they feel toward you is actually something that they need to, you know, examine themselves and go on their own journey with that in that it actually has nothing to do with you, that it’s their own work. But it’s like unless someone is self-honest enough, self-aware enough, conscious enough, deep enough on the path, they’re not going to be able to identify those pieces. And so I just I’m not saying this to make anybody scared.

I’m saying this to empower you. I’m saying this to let you know that when you are a bright light of shining ancient divine truth and ancient wisdom, there is going to oftentimes be reactions. And that is when those things happen. It is not a sign that you’re supposed to stop. It’s a sign that you’re on the right path, that you have to keep holding your truth.

And then there was another thing. What was the other thing? Oh, there is also potential for very humbling moments. I mean, they will still, you know, for sure come in from time to time for me.

But I remember, especially on the more beginning to beginning to middle phases for me when I was in that place where the TV show that I was hosting went under, just I literally, in the snap of a finger, got a call that we were on temporary hiatus. And anyone that works in the media and entertainment industry knows that’s not a good sign. That’s usually code for the shows done.

And so again, living in New York City, not knowing what to do. And my friend owned a juice company and and she knew what had happened with the show. And she said, Alyson, I don’t know if you’re interested at all, but I’m going to open my first brick-and-mortar for the Juice brand. Do you want to, like, manage the juice store? And I’m like, Oh my God, you’ve got to be kidding me. But when I prayed on it, I knew this was a rite of passage for me.

And did it bruise my ego to go from being this like TV host that people might recognize to sitting literally sitting in this tiny little juice store ringing up? I was the manager, but I was don’t get, it twisted. I was the cashier girl, you know, I was holding canning people’s green juices to them. And occasionally people would recognize me and I did that job.

Gosh, I can’t remember exactly times a bit illusory, but I mean, I don’t know, maybe for almost two years. So every day it was humble pie medicine for me to trek into this do store and sit there on this stool.

And I want to say I was doing that to make ends meet while living in New York City, while also cultivating the shamanic path. I was doing occasional shamanic healing events with metaphysical bookstores, and so that was all like the craft was refining and sharpening while I was sitting on this stool, ringing up people’s green juices.

So it’s like, you know, that’s my story that, yeah, there was some really ego obliterating, humble pie moments in the journey. But and again, this doesn’t hold true for everyone. But I think for me it was really good medicine and I knew I was supposed to do that and I knew it was good for me. And I think Spirit wanted to see that like I knew that my worth and value was not changing, shifting, morphing or diminishing by me saying yes to managing that juice shop. I knew there was a bigger picture and I want to be able to be.

I honor my human self just as much as my shaman self. My shaman is not grander than the human me, and I think that’s why those who see the true ness and the purity of me really respect and gravitate to me. It’s because I’m a very down-to-earth real shaman. Like I’m not trying to present as holier than thou or better than thou. I know how to embrace and honor and hold it all. So hopefully there was something supportive in that.

But yeah, I mean, Spirit wants to see your vulnerability, your willingness, because a lot of the instructions that come in will not make logical sense. And if you’re trying to pivot out of a very previous, logical-brained previous pathway of career or just ways of thinking and you’re trying to open yourself up into the voided great mystery of life. There’s going to be most likely, some initiations and rites of passage along the way that are going to be and then feel very challenging for you, to trust spirits messages and trust your own self that you can hold at all.

Emily: I think that’s great advice, and I think there’s two that I think that humble pie piece is really important. You know, because I know some people are focusing on what I think of like vanity metrics and like, you know, who’s who and this kind of inflated ego start of their business and like to take a job as a juice person is like, well, now you recognize me.

Great. And having those days like, so Spirit, did you have any day now? When I’m ready. When you’re ready, I’m ready. Like, did you feel any of that impatience or like, I know I’m doing the right thing, but like, also, how long did you get any of that?

Alyson: Yeah, I mean, yes. Yeah, I mean, it was hilarious. One time when I was the cover story for Marie Claire magazine, the editor had to come do her interview for me at the freakin juice shop. It’s I mean, like, this is real. I mean, I was literally in this multi-page spread of Marie Claire and the cover, it was on the cover. It said, Can a shaman fix your life or something? And that interview happened in the juice shop.

And, and one of the other instructions was, I was told my friend ran a vegan expo and it was called the Seed. And I was told that I was supposed to have a table there. And I’m like, I’m not, I’m not a foodie, not a chef, I’m a shaman. I called my friend. I said, spirit’s said I’m supposed to have a table there. He’s like, you got it. Whatever you need to do.

So I made this little sign that said, like, next level Living with Alice and Charles and I had some crystals and some of my shamanic tools I was doing like mini aura readings and mini chocolate clearings for like $30. I literally had a table at a vegan expo.

And again, like, was that humbling? Yes. Did I understand why? No. But I can tell you and it’s too big of a story to tell you now, but like having that one of those entry points of the true me coming out publicly as a shaman at that expo called The Seed, that full circle moment just revealed itself actually at the Dogon Ceremony Circle event in the last few weeks. I have been getting a message from Spirit for almost a year. It was like Original Seed, Original seed, Original seed, Original Seed.

When I had Naba on my podcast, all of a sudden he said something about origin scene. I was like, wait, wait, what did you just say? And long story short. I saw that the reason he and I were supposed to do that gathering together was because he and I and another friend of mine, Peyton, thousands of years ago, we were together in another lifetime.

And we planted the seed. We sent up the prayer for us to come back together in this lifetime and help other people reconnect with the origin seed inside of them, humanity’s original seed of shamanic ways, shamanic truths, and so on. Only in the last few weeks did it make sense, and did I understand why my shamanic path started at a place called The Seed. So it took me more than a decade to understand why I had to set up a shamanic table at a vegan expo. So I don’t know. There’s a lot of medicine and storytelling, so maybe that’s food for thought in some way.

Emily: Absolutely. And it’s very validating. And, you know, sometimes when we’re in it, we don’t have that hindsight benefit, only trusting that this is happening for a reason. I know there’s got to be I don’t know what it is and I don’t have to know right now. One day it’s going to be very clear.

Alyson: Most oftentimes it is only, the only thing you have is the trust. Yeah, that’s it.

Emily: That’s it. Well, Alyson, it’s been such a pleasure. Such a joy to have you here. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. I would love to be able to share more of you with my community. I know you’ve shared that you have your free shamanic journey with purchase of the card deck and your book. Would you like to share a little bit more about what the journey is that we can…

Alyson: Yeah. Yeah, I’m glad you brought that up. So yeah, if you go to my website alysoncharles.com at the top of the page, there’s a tab that you can hit that I think it says Animal Power Book. And when you go to that page yes you will get emailed to you a free video-guided shamanic journey that I facilitate with my drum.

I take you into another realm and we call forward the power animal that in that present time most has a message for you that most wants to support you for some reason with where you’re at right now. And then of course, once you go on that journey and you talk to that animal and get to know it, then you can obviously consult the Animal Power book or deck for further understanding or messaging as to why that animal is showing up for you.

So yeah, just go to alysoncharles.com to get that free journey and then yeah Ceremony Circle my podcast. I think that’s the way that people get to know us the best right? It’s not through it’s a little static picture on Instagram like it’s through hearing and feeling us and have a hearing a conversation. So I recommend Ceremony Circle.

Emily: Great. Well, thank you so much for being here and I’ll make sure to link all of the things on the show notes, the Dogon Wisdom website as well. And if there’s anything else later, we’ll definitely catch up to get all those. Well, thank you so much for being here. It’s been such a joy.

Alyson: Yeah, thanks for having me. It was fun.

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